Confirmed Signing with Link: [NYI] Mathew Barzal signs extension (3 years, $7M AAV)

[Weezeric]

Why did so many RFAs sign bridge contracts these past few years?

Because Dubas signed his guys for UFA prices for mostly RFA years and now everyone wants that...

 

[Crazydounut]

Expansion Draft next year, Lou can make some moves.

Exactly. They should be okay as long as Lou stays away from those 4th line 4 mil aav deals

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Solid deal. Lou Lam is never going to pay above market for young guys.

 

[TheScandal89]

I think this is a good deal, they get a great cap hit from there best player for 3 years and still control him after.

This is why I wanted Lou to do our deals for our core instead of Dubas. People will disagree with Lou's UFA contracts but I think he still knows how to leverage RFAs

 

[KingsFan7824]

This signing is just another example why Lou Lam is the wizard of GMs. Barzal for 7 on the cap, and after three years the team still has the control. Get Lou Lam fir GM and he builds a winner. Smart signing of these young stars saves cap dollars to round out his roster.

Yeah, had to get rid of Toews while standing pat. Merlin himself.

 

[Evgeny Oliker]

Cap hit on Greene out now?

 

[Crazydounut]

Yeah, had to get rid of Toews while standing pat. Merlin himself.

Lou is forsure a mixed bag.

Your RFA's are gonna be well handeled and drafting should be solid, but at the same time trading and UFA is where Lou struggles a lot. He'd be a top 5 GM if he wasn't bad at those two parts of roster acquisitions

 

[Flyer lurker]

Short term deal is fine. Long term anyone else Tavaras part two?

 

[SI90]

Perfect!!! Cheaper than expected!!! Fair for both sides. I’m happy

 

[Luck 6]

Isn’t this bad for the Islanders in the sense that he could sign his QO after the contract to essentially become a UFA the season after?

 

[Ignite111]

This great deal makes me feel a little better about that Martin deal

 

[Fatass]

I think this is a good deal, they get a great cap hit from there best player for 3 years and still control him after.

This is why I wanted Lou to do our deals for our core instead of Dubas. People will disagree with Lou's UFA contracts but I think he still knows how to leverage RFAs

100% agree. Lou Lam might have saved 7-10 million in cap room. Look at how TBay and Boston save with their younger stars! Colorado too. Those extra cap dollars make a difference in the quality of the support players. 7 on the cap for a superstar is amazing. I’m hoping Benning is this smart signing Pettersson and Hughes.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

This signing is just another example why Lou Lam is the wizard of GMs. Barzal for 7 on the cap, and after three years the team still has the control. Get Lou Lam fir GM and he builds a winner. Smart signing of these young stars saves cap dollars to round out his roster.

I think you are over exaggerating a bit, this contract was was super predictable after last years signings. It's about as fair as it gets for both sides, less than 7x3 is a steal and more than 7x3 is an overpay.

Dont use Toronto as a baseline for deals, they are the outlier.

 

[Fatass]

I think you are over exaggerating a bit, this contract was was super predictable after last years signings. It's about as fair as it gets for both sides, less than 7x3 is a steal and more than 7x3 is an overpay.

I think we need to compare Barzal’s cap cost to other superstar number one centres. Maybe it’s a north of the border v south of the border thing, but it sure looks like Barzal at 7 is a lot less than other star number one centres are eating off the cap.

 

[Crazy Cizikas]

wizard? the deal is 4-7-10m which means his next QO has to be minimum 10m. No wizardy at all.. Lou must be planning to not be in NY in 3 seasons.

I think that the QO is now based on the aav. 120% of the aav. So that’s around 8.4m

 

[Chardo]

Short term deal is fine. Long term anyone else Tavaras part two?

They still control his rights after this contract.

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

Short term deal is fine. Long term anyone else Tavaras part two?

If you mean losing him for nothing, I don't think that will happen regardless of who the GM is. If you mean, huge 7 year deal everyone can see will hurt on the back-end...that's pretty much the case for signing any UFA that's going to be playing well into their 30's.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Hopefully someone writes out how it works now. It's something to do with a % over the AAV.

On edit: 20% over the AAV, so 8.4 to 8.6 is about right as far as a QO goes

There are 2 options and the lower of the 2 is the QO:
1. The final year of the contracts pay
2. The AAV x 1.2

 

[Leafs87]

Isn’t this bad for the Islanders in the sense that he could sign his QO after the contract to essentially become a UFA the season after?

You can say this for every bridge deal signed in the past 3 years. You either bite the bullet like Toronto and Colorado did and go 5+ with higher cap or risk UFA after the the 4th year. Toronto overpaid I know let’s not turn this into that though.

This is a good deal for NYI

 

[Chardo]

This great deal makes me feel a little better about that Martin deal

The Martin deal is fine.

 

[surixon]

I think we need to compare Barzal’s cap cost to other superstar number one centres. Maybe it’s a north of the border v south of the border thing, but it sure looks like Barzal at 7 is a lot less than other star number one centres are eating off the cap.

Well its lower due to the term of the deal. Aho is at 8.5 but signed for 5 years. Other comps like Point were same term at $6.7 million. So its essentially a market value deal.

 

[Madap]

This signing is just another example why Lou Lam is the wizard of GMs. Barzal for 7 on the cap, and after three years the team still has the control. Get Lou Lam fir GM and he builds a winner. Smart signing of these young stars saves cap dollars to round out his roster.

Wizard? This is a decent deal sure, but don’t forget he had to deal toews because of it, and he’s still over the cap. He’s going to get bailed out because a player got injured and couldn’t play, or he’d have to dump even more assets.

 

[BlueBaron]

Great signing. Glad this didn't screw up his season.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

I think we need to compare Barzal’s cap cost to other superstar number one centres. Maybe it’s a north of the border v south of the border thing, but it sure looks like Barzal at 7 is a lot less than other star number one centres are eating off the cap.

Huh? There are 5 other 1C's that signed off of ELC's recently 2 of them signed long term (Matthews and Hischier) and of the other 3 only 1 of them got more than Barzal (but Aho also signed an OS and got 2 extra years). Barzal got the Tkachuk deal which is completely fair since they are fairly similar caliber players

 

[Fatass]

Well its lower due to the term of the deal. Aho is at 8.5 but signed for 5 years. Other comps like Point were same term at $6.7 million. So its essentially a market value deal.

Aren’t there some star young forwards making 10 plus on the cap though, on their second contracts?