Confirmed Signing with Link: [NYI] F Mathew Barzal signs extension with the Islanders (8 years, $9.15M AAV)

[Throttle]

Do Isles fans think there is a chance he actually gets traded before his extension kicks in? Like what happened to PK Subban in Montreal?

He doesn’t have any trade protection. Will he be traded? Doubtful. Should he be traded? Yep.

 

[Senor Catface]

Not everything is about the Leafs. Clearly they are on your mind though....

It is when it's the OP I quoted.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

He doesn’t have any trade protection. Will he be traded? Doubtful. Should he be traded? Yep.

Yes he does, starting the 24-25 season he has a Modified No Trade Clause where he can list 22 teams he doesn't want to go to.

 

[AvroArrow]

40 point player not even halfway thru the season.

No, your comment was that he was a 60 point player and your reasoning was that he hadn’t surpassed it since his rookie season. It’s ok to be wrong, but stand by your convictions. It’s clear you based it solely on stats because anyone who watched him regularly knew there was much more he was capable of.

Dude don't be obtuse. You know why you're wrong, it's really not complicated.

might need to research more: Kid hit 60 plus twice after his 85 point rookie NHL season. One of those seasons was in 68 games. playing for an uber defensive team system. Also, take a gander a how many players this century had more points in their rookie seasons? answer: very few, and those guys are heavy hitter sure bet Hall of Famers.

Any of you wanna still discuss ?

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

Light schedule coming up pre and post allstar game so maybe Isles fans will post after he's back to averaging a ppg.

Cool jinx post though.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

The most surprising thing about Barzal is he's listed as 6'1. Maybe it's his skating style, but he looks no taller than your typical 5'10/5'11 player.

 

[mm11]

Any of you wanna still discuss ?

stay humble brother, long career left and plenty of season left.

 

[LeapOnOver]

Way too invisible for a 9MM player

Invisible isn't the right word here. He's noticeable almost every time he's on the ice. The problem is, it results in very little production. I save a word invisible for guys you don't even know have had a shift in a game.

 

[Osakahaus]

When you're the only player with skill on a team with little skill, its easy to shut them down.

 

[Foppberg]

Outside of Sorokin, he is the only elite level talent on the ice for the Islanders. Pretty easy to deal with a pass first player when you double team him & the guys he's passing to are pretty pedestrian.

 

[ViewsFromThe6ix]

Invisible isn't the right word here. He's noticeable almost every time he's on the ice. The problem is, it results in very little production. I save a word invisible for guys you don't even know have had a shift in a game.

Empty calorie player is a better adjective

 

[Frolov 6'3]

Outside of Sorokin, he is the only elite level talent on the ice for the Islanders. Pretty easy to deal with a pass first player when you double team him & the guys he's passing to are pretty pedestrian.

He is a pass first player due to the fact he is average at scoring, extremely bad in the face off circle and therefore not an elite talent.

Very good second line center.

 

[Accelleratii]

Very few players can carry an offense by themselves. I look at the Islanders roster and I don't see many players that are above average save Sorokin and Dobson and that just isn't enough.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Very few players can carry an offense by themselves. I look at the Islanders roster and I don't see many players that are above average save Sorokin and Dobson and that just isn't enough.

Good players can also make players around them better, he does not.

 

[Notsince67]

Not everything is about the Leafs. Clearly they are on your mind though....

TBH, I was thinking about how the Leafs have a better center in Nylander who they have the luxury to play at wing. Then it stuck me how much he was going to get paid when his contract is up.

 

[BlueBaron]

TBH, I was thinking about how the Leafs have a better center in Nylander who they have the luxury to play at wing. Then it stuck me how much he was going to get paid when his contract is up.

I'm not sure how one would rate Nylander as a C. He doesn't have a large body of work there so I wouldn't be comfortable declaring him a better C than Barzal.

It's true he's earned a raise, it will be interesting how it all shakes out.

 

[FlyguyOX]

Larkin should be thanking Barzal for bringing up his ask with Detroit. Really don't think these guys are 9MM players but it's the going price.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Good players can also make players around them better, he does not.

To a certain extent, but those players still have to have *something* that allows them to capitalize on the chances.

First off, Barzal's not McDavid/prime Crosby. So let's not even bother listing their linemates to try and prove a point.

Second, which "next tier" top line center plays with really bad players and still manages to elevate them? Of the players who are roughly on par with Barzal, which ones have similar linemates? Every player who one would argue is roughly in the same tier as Barzal has at least one good linemate. Which ones have same/worse