Dr Jan Itor
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Trading up for McCarthy could be a horrible setback for the franchise.
OT: Non-Hockey Sports Thread XII - Heeeeeeressss JJ! (Percy Harvin Edition)
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If a 4th QB is taken between pick 4 and 10 , one of those will be available at #11.
4 QBs
3 WRs
1 TE
3 OTs
Plus, if Atlanta doesn't trade out, they'll probably go defense.
1st round QBs are historically a ~50/50 proposition, so we'd be counting on probably 2 of the 3 top 3 picks busting. I know that's not exactly how it works, but historically that's how the numbers have come out.
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If we cant get one of the top 3 guys id rather wait and take a player like Penix Jr at 23 and let another team trade up for JJ.
But thats just because i dont feel like JJ is worth trading up for. Nothing against the player and would take him just not at that cost.
But thats just because i dont feel like JJ is worth trading up for. Nothing against the player and would take him just not at that cost.
Yeah, always easier to stomach a risk when you are just using your own pick like NE did with Mac Jones. Didn’t work out so only cost was their own first. Not 2 extra seconds or whatever else.
Have to see what they do or whether the Giants step up and try to flip with AZ if they want a QB as well.
I dunno that you'd be the one that I'd trust to make decisions for the Vikings future.
I have no idea who will end up being a top echelon NFL QB out of this draft, but i sure as hell hope the Vikings do. There have been so many disappointing "can't miss" QB picks, let alone flat out busts over the years.
Winston
Wentz
Young
Murray
Bradford
Griffin III
Darnold(Ha!)
Sanchez
Mariota
Bortles
Trubisky
Harrington
Russell
Smith
When they were picked there was huge hype about them, and a supposedly professional scouting staff involved in picking them, yet...
Would love for the Vikings to finally get a top guy, though, or at least, a guy who can rival what Tarkenton was(top 5?). I guess what i am saying, though, is that if the Vikes can't pick the guys they believe in, then they have to be disciplined, and not just take the next best guy out of need. I would rather that they pick the BPA, and cobble things together at QB. Having a couple + of really good/pro bowl position players is better than having a mediocre QB.
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For sure will cost 11 and 23. How much more is the question.
In recent years, NYJ gave Indy 3 extra 2nds to go from 6 to 3 to draft Darnold while Indy got Nelson at 6.
Last year, from 12 to 3, it cost Hou an extra 1, 2, and 3 to AZ
AZ to go back from 12 to 6 cost them a 2nd to Det. (that's pretty cheap)
When Miami after dealing down to SF from 3 to 12 for 2 extra 1sts, gave up a 1st to go from 12 to 6 to get Waddle.
So, it can vary based on who is on the board.
Helps that Minny's extra 1st is this year vs waiting a year which would decrease its value.
After signing Russell Wilson, Steelers trade 2022 1st-round pick Kenny Pickett to Eagles
The Steelers moved on from Pickett after just two seasons.
sports.yahoo.com
There's another team in need of a QB in the draft
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After signing Russell Wilson, Steelers trade 2022 1st-round pick Kenny Pickett to Eagles
The Steelers moved on from Pickett after just two seasons.
There's another team in need of a QB in the draft
I feel Ike this solidifies Fields to Pitt no?
Zulgad: Trade with Texans helps to reveal true intentions of Vikings GM Kwesi Adofo-Mensah when it comes to drafting a quarterback
A day after not committing to taking a QB in the NFL Draft, Minnesota Vikings GM Kwesi Adofo-Mensah trades for a second first round pick.
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You can get talent via good drafting to build the roster. Hard to find a QB. NE will not overcomplicate it.Zulgad: Trade with Texans helps to reveal true intentions of Vikings GM Kwesi Adofo-Mensah when it comes to drafting a quarterback
A day after not committing to taking a QB in the NFL Draft, Minnesota Vikings GM Kwesi Adofo-Mensah trades for a second first round pick.
Trade target is either AZ or LAC. Both can afford to move back to 11.
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No reason to trade up if it's not for one of the top 3 guys.
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Unless Chicago was going to pass on a QB and run it back with Fields, Wash and NE need a QB. Whenever you are in position to draft a QB without trading up, unless you don't like the QB available, you kind of have to take one.
Look at the past few trade ups and what it cost.
SF 12 to 3, 2 extra 1st and a 3rd
CAR 9 to 1, 1st, DJ Moore, 2 seconds
NYJ 6 to 3, 3 extra 2nds
Really no way for Minny to get into the top 3.
But, Minny has to determine if JJ really is someone that they can develop into a very good QB.
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I actually think this is a good move even if they don’t move up. If they miss on the big 4, take BPA at 11 and Penix Jr at 23.Zulgad: Trade with Texans helps to reveal true intentions of Vikings GM Kwesi Adofo-Mensah when it comes to drafting a quarterback
A day after not committing to taking a QB in the NFL Draft, Minnesota Vikings GM Kwesi Adofo-Mensah trades for a second first round pick.
Good interview with Greenard... won't embed, so here's the link.
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It is pretty on brand for the vikings to scoop up former packers that are about to decline. What are we at now...
Brett Favre
Greg Jennings
Ryan Longwell
Dean Lowry
Za'Darius Smith
Aaron Jones
Did I miss anyone?
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