Seravalli: Noah Hanifin is holding the Calgary Flames hostage in trade talks

[viper0220]

Trade Targets: Noah Hanifin is holding the Calgary Flames hostage in trade talks

The list of teams Hanifin is whispering he’s interested in signing with is limiting Calgary’s market.

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[Kahvi]

I guess the question is, when did Hanifin sent his 8 team no-trade list? Does he have to sent it to start every season, or only when Flames management asks

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Are people honestly surprised? This is the same guy who took months to accept or decline Conroys offer on the table.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

I guess the question is, when did Hanifin sent his 8 team no-trade list? Does he have to sent it to start every season, or only when Flames management asks

Usually the start of season

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

So you dont have to click it:
Hanifin has 8 team NTC
Why is it a problem?
His camp can tell interested teams that there's little interest in re-signing long-term, killing potential deals before they happen

 

[smytty]

That's a terrible title. If they didn't want him to have the power of a NTC then they shouldn't have given him one.

 

[trellaine201]

It’s his right ? No trade clause. They gave it to him.

 

[JKG33]

I don't see the problem here? The team isn't under any obligation to trade a player somewhere he wants, beyond what's listed on a NTC. And the player isn't obligated to sign somewhere he doesn't want to or open up his NTC.

And it's not like the player is going to sandbag or refuse to report. He has all the motivation to finish the season to get a better contract in the summer.

 

[Mike Jones]

That's a terrible title. If they didn't want him to have the power of a NTC then they shouldn't have given him one.

Exactly - you reap what you sow.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

I think he goes to Vegas. Vegas is looking for a replacement for Martinez as he likely won't be back next year.

 

[Kahvi]

Usually the start of season

In that case, the speculation of him blocking trades with his NTC is useless, because it already happened. Of course Flames can ask if he wants to change his mind, but I dont think that is likely. So it's basically trading Hanifin as a rental or sign-and-trade kind of deal.

 

[AslanRH]

That's a terrible title. If they didn't want him to have the power of a NTC then they shouldn't have given him one.

It's about the return not the NTC.
If he isn't willing to sign with a team the return will be at best a rental return.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Sportsnet said yesterday that Conroy is looking for an elite level prospect who is currently an NHLer, a 1st and a late pick. Don't think he's going to get that.

 

[crackdown44]

Yeah I mean I guess if he’ll only resign with a couple teams you just trade him as a pure rental

It’s only an 8 team NTC I’m sure it’s like Canada + Arizona on it

Flames aren’t going to trade him to Tampa for a 3rd just because that’s the only place he’ll sign

Does suck though he’ll get less as a rental than as a guy a team expects they can sign

 

[StreetHawk]

So you dont have to click it:
Hanifin has 8 team NTC
Why is it a problem?
His camp can tell interested teams that there's little interest in re-signing long-term, killing potential deals before they happen

he will get traded even if the flames take a lesser package back. But he also loses out if he can’t secure year 8. Nice to have that security taken care of at 27 then take your chances at 34.

He’s a soon to be ufa so he can tell Calgary which are the top teams he’d sign with. If he doesn’t end up with one of them then so be it. Figure it out in free agency.

 

[Lunatik]

Servalli has rarely been right when it comes to the Flames.

 

[Shocker]

How dare he use the right he negotiated to his contract, the gall of him.

 

[Kahvi]

Yeah I mean I guess if he’ll only resign with a couple teams you just trade him as a pure rental

It’s only an 8 team NTC I’m sure it’s like Canada + Arizona on it

Flames aren’t going to trade him to Tampa for a 3rd just because that’s the only place he’ll sign

Does suck though he’ll get less as a rental than as a guy a team expects they can sign

This is absolutely not pointed at you, but I really hope people here would finally understand the difference between re-sign and resign.

 

[dugg133]

I don't really see this as the Flames being held hostage. They can trade him for a rental price to whoever they want. But the first + a good prospect they are asking for is the price of a guy that comes with an extension IMO, and Hanifin isn't obliged to sign with someone just cause they're offering Calgary the most.

 

[crackdown44]

This is absolutely not pointed at you, but I really hope people here would finally understand the difference between re-sign and resign.

I get this one wrong 100% of the time ngl

 

[banks]

It's about the return not the NTC.
If he isn't willing to sign with a team the return will be at best a rental return.

Same as every other rental player ever, isn't it?

It's pretty rare for a rental player to agree to an extension beforehand. And it certainly isn't expected just to help your former team maximize the trade return.

 

[Kahvi]

I get this one wrong 100% of the time ngl

Everytime I see one or the other, I know what they mean, but I just can't help myself being a smartass.

 

[CDN24]

It's about the return not the NTC.
If he isn't willing to sign with a team the return will be at best a rental return.

He is a rental. He is under no obligation to negotiate in year so that Calgary can get more trading him.

 

[Some Other Flame]

Okay, so he'll be traded as a rental.

Standard rental rates are still a 1st, prospect, roster/cap. Good enough.

 

[AlexGretzchenvid]

I think he goes to Vegas. Vegas is looking for a replacement for Martinez as he likely won't be back next year.

Would be a great landing spot for him.