GDT: NJ vs. CAR

[Devils Dominion]

The "who gets Mitch Marner" game?

Marner will not get by both Carolina and Toronto.

I think Cbj blows us out next week.

 

[Devils Dominion]

Faceoffs, 42-23

 

[HughJazz3dg]

When you have Boucher-Gomez-Bernier as a top 6 in your line up, you need to expect a lack of offense.

Personally, I think our best forward was Rutuu. At least he brought what is asked of him, a physical game. I still think he needs to be given a bigger role on our team (Considering the lack of actual talent in our fwds.)

 

[MadDevil]

Come on UND. Salvage this night please.

 

[Devils Dominion]

Ruutu nerds to go for a 5th rounder this summer

 

[Benedict Parisechuk]

Ducks
@ BJs
Habs
@ Rangers
Rangers
@ Lightning
@ Panthers

I'm really not sure if were winning another game. Maybe the Florida game if that turns out to be meaningless for them?

 

[NJDevils#4]

It's nights like this I like to remember this:

http://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/NJD/2000.html

THAT was a hockey team

 

[Emperoreddy]

WEll I'm enjoying myself over here. Glad I missed this one.

 

[guitarguyvic]

Who needs goal scoring? So sick of this old and tired defensive meme.

#ARMYOFPANDOLFOS

These are the ignorant posts that irk me. the lack of offense has nothing to do with the organization's philosophy, and everything to do with the loss of significantly talented forwards that haven't been able to be replaced, along with the related issue of having none of our offensive prospects pan out.

 

[NJDevils#4]

These are the ignorant posts that irk me. the lack of offense has nothing to do with the organization's philosophy, and everything to do with the loss of significantly talented forwards that haven't been able to be replaced, along with the related issue of having none of our offensive prospects pan out.

Sooooooo you're saying.....we....suck? Yes?

 

[ForeverJerseyGirl]

Devils woes are more rooted in personnel problems (especially lack of decent top six forwards) than in organizational philosophy. The blueprint works; some of the parts the team is using are just defective. That's my perspective.

 

[NJDevils#4]

Devils woes are more rooted in personnel problems (especially lack of decent top six forwards) than in organizational philosophy. The blueprint works; some of the parts the team is using are just defective. That's my perspective.

Good point. The team is simply made of 12 3rd/4th/AHL players. It's really that simple. On a good night, maybe Camms, Henrique, or Zajac show flashes of 2nd line potential. There's not a single 1st line Stanley Cup winning caliber forward on this team. For the most part, there's really not a 2nd line one either.

 

[R8Devs]

The entire team's problems comes from having players like Tootoo, Bernier, Zajac, etc. in the top 6. Must be worst top 6 other than Buffalo in the entire league. it's not to say tootoo or bernier play bad but it's just that they are way outmatched for the role they are in and Lou will def sign them next season so I don't think much will change goal scoring wise next year.

 

[ForeverJerseyGirl]

Good point. The team is simply made of 12 3rd/4th/AHL players. It's really that simple. On a good night, maybe Camms, Henrique, or Zajac show flashes of 2nd line potential. There's not a single 1st line Stanley Cup winning caliber forward on this team. For the most part, there's really not a 2nd line one either.

Yep. Right now a lot of our forwards are being asked to fill roles that they don't have the skill to do adequately. Almost every forward on the team plays a line or two above their ability level. With the model the Devils are using, we don't need exceptional forwards, but we do need decent ones (and decent as compared to their NHL peers in similar roles, basically).

 

[NJDevils#4]

If I was building an offense to compete for a Cup out of this roster I'd have about this as far as being on my way:

? - ? - ?
? - Henrique - ?
Cammalieri - Zajac - ?
Whoever - Whoever - Whoever


Seriously. That's how bad we are.

 

[Cheddabombs]

If I was building an offense to compete for a Cup out of this roster I'd have about this as far as being on my way:

? - ? - ?
? - Henrique - ?
Cammalieri - Zajac - ?
Whoever - Whoever - Whoever


Seriously. That's how bad we are.

Cammy can definitely be a 1st/2nd liner. Zajac can be a 2nd liner too, his problem is that he's expected to be our 1st line center. It's bad, but at least give credit where it's due.

 

[NJDevils#4]

Cammy can definitely be a 1st/2nd liner. Zajac can be a 2nd liner too, his problem is that he's expected to be our 1st line center. It's bad, but at least give credit where it's due.

If you look around the league, I'd pick probably 20 LWers id rather have than Camm on the 2nd line and Zajac is more of a two way guy who fits more of a Bobby Holik 3rd line role than a scoring 2nd line C.

 

[Cheddabombs]

If you look around the league, I'd pick probably 20 LWers id rather have than Camm on the 2nd line and Zajac is more of a two way guy who fits more of a Bobby Holik 3rd line role than a scoring 2nd line C.

I don't care about the rest of the league, I think Cammy is a legit top winger. With Zajac, I teeter on it myself, but I think if he was given less responsibility and had decent wingers he can fill in a decent 2nd line center.

 

[glenwo2]

Another night, another loss.

Welcome to Devils Pond Hockey.

 

[NJDevils#4]

I don't care about the rest of the league, I think Cammy is a legit top winger. With Zajac, I teeter on it myself, but I think if he was given less responsibility and had decent wingers he can fill in a decent 2nd line center.

Right but I'm talking about a lineup that can win the cup. Not a couple guys you have a special place in your heart for because you bought their jersey or they look cute to you in uniform.

 

[NJDevs26]

Cammalleri's a legit 30-goal scorer and might hit 30 despite missing multiple games and playing in a dumpster fire of a forward core, it's not homerism to say he belongs in a top six. Just because nobody else on this team deserves to be in a top six except MAYBE Henrique, doesn't automatically mean EVERYthing on the team is ****

 

[NJDevils#4]

Sorry im in a bad mood. Nothing personal.

Camms has 2nd line talent I hear you. He's not my prototype is all I'm getting at, but he's the best of a not so good situation here.

 

[Hockey Sports Fan]

If you look around the league, I'd pick probably 20 LWers id rather have than Camm on the 2nd line and Zajac is more of a two way guy who fits more of a Bobby Holik 3rd line role than a scoring 2nd line C.

If Chicago can win two cups with no 2nd-line center better than Michal Handzus, Zajac can be a 2nd line center on a contending team. But I do agree with your general point. There's not a lot of value on the roster, to say the least.

 

[JK3]

Keep drinking the kool-aid. One of these safe two way slugs will pan out one of these years. We have Boucher, the only thing that remotely represents an offensive player but we need to neuter him so he be a "safe" player. Maybe we can turn him into another black hole like Zajac.

 

[TheUnseenHand]

Cami is a top 6 player on most teams in the league.

Other than that, I agree. Zajac is best suited as a 3rd line center and Henrique is best suited as a 2nd or 3rd line tweener depending on who he is playing with. The forward group is really a disaster and it's gonna take years of really savvy moves and good drafting to fix it without gutting the young D. That said, I don't think they are too far away from being a respectable team with an outside shot at the playoffs.