Proposal: NJ—DAL, ARZ, NYI, TOR, PIT, WSH, CAR, BUF

[Puckclektr]

So these are just some ideas I’ve been thinking about. Obviously they are not all going to get traded and with NJ already deep at Centre and a good possibility that they may have a top pick again and draft the BPA which may be a centre, I am obviously going after defense or wingers . Keep in mind they are just ideas and are just starters and may need to be added or taken away.

These are not set offers either and may need to be tweaked by maybe adding to Hall or other Devils. With Hall it is hard to tell based off of a sign and trade as his value may a lot be worth more after a signing.

Hall retained-Dallas for Harley or Gurianov im thinking more Gurianov as Harley might be a little too much coming back for a rental as I don’t think Dallas has room to sign him next year.

Hall + Wood - ARizona Soderstrom, first if resigned.

Hall Zajac retained- NYI Wilde 1st if resigned.

zajac retained to NYI for 2nd

simmonds + Greene(retained) to TML for bracco 3rd 2021. Toronto desperately needs some grit and Greene is still a very serviceable bottom pairing defenseman who was arguably the best penalty killing defenseman in the league last year.

Vatanen- 1st from Pittsburgh or Washington

McLeod to Carolina for Jake Bean

miles Wood to Buffalo for McCabe. Thoughts?

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[Prarievarg]

Yes, we need more Taylor Hall threads. Also, AZ won't trade Söderström for a rental.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I don't see what Vatanen does for the Penguins, they have Letang, Marino and Schultz on the right side already. They don't really need a defenseman in general at this point.

 

[AfroThunder396]

Travis Zajac (50% retained) to NYI for 2nd 2020 + 2nd 2021

-Zajac is overpaid at his full cap hit, but at 50% (2.875 AAV) he suddenly becomes a bargain 3C with one more year of term
-Zajac is an elite defensive/PK center who is pretty reliable for 40-45 points a season when healthy
-Lou draft pick
-A two way guy, which Trotz loves
-Leader, has worn a letter for over a decade, brings playoff experience
-Would likely be willing to waive for a tri-state team so that he doesn't need to move his family

 

[Puckclektr]

Yes, we need more Taylor Hall threads. Also, AZ won't trade Söderström for a rental.

1. It isn’t just a Taylor Hall thread
2.I never said he was a rental. If you read it, you would see that I put re-signed

 

[Puckclektr]

I don't see what Vatanen does for the Penguins, they have Letang, Marino and Schultz on the right side already. They don't really need a defenseman in general at this point.

Vatanen also play the Left side. But I thought you guys could use another D.

 

[spockBokk]

Don't think McCloud would get you Bean. Both guys are still in the minors, but from a stats standpoint, I'd say Bean is tracking better overall. And, Bean is good Hamilton/Gardiner insurance down the line. I don't think McCloud really offers CAR much over a guy like Morgan Geekie other than better skating.

Hadyn Fleury is available though, but I'd think CAR would still want to shoot higher than McCloud there, even though the value is probably equal.

 

[ThatsSoSlavin]

Bracco and a third, love it

 

[Prarievarg]

I never said he was a rental. If you read it, you would see that I put re-signed

I read it as Söderström + a conditional 1st round if Hall signed with AZ. We also don't have the cap space to make it work, you'd probably have to retain and/or take salary back. Despite the rumors I honestly don't see a fit.

 

[The Podium]

How does Toronto add 10 mill?

 

[Puckclektr]

Don't think McCloud would get you Bean. Both guys are still in the minors, but from a stats standpoint, I'd say Bean is tracking better overall. And, Bean is good Hamilton/Gardiner insurance down the line. I don't think McCloud really offers CAR much over a guy like Morgan Geekie other than better skating.

Hadyn Fleury is available though, but I'd think CAR would still want to shoot higher than McCloud there, even though the value is probably equal.

I was under the assumption that Fleury holds more value.

 

[Puckclektr]

How does Toronto add 10 mill?

It says retained. And the trade could also be closer to the deadline which would mean they are only adding a couple million. Salary can be coming back which is why I said the trades can be tweaked.

 

[Blackjack]

I was under the assumption that Fleury holds more value.

Fleury is 23 and hasn't stuck in the NHL yet, I don't think he has much trade value at this point.

 

[Gecklund]

It might be better to space this out or add bullet points or something. Very hard to read.

 

[spockBokk]

I was under the assumption that Fleury holds more value.

Not in the way he’s been used so far this season. I personally feel he’s moved at some point either for a comparable forward or as part of a larger package for a forward prior to or on the deadline.

Brind’Amour just doesn’t seem to trust him.

 

[7even]

It says retained. And the trade could also be closer to the deadline which would mean they are only adding a couple million. Salary can be coming back which is why I said the trades can be tweaked.

Toronto is $12M above the cap, so they will not accumulate any space over the course of the season. They don't really have any dumpable contracts either.

 

[Jerzey Devil]

I’ve been one of Zajac’s biggest critics over the years but the Devils should not be trading him imo. His line with Goose and Coleman is currently the best thing we have going for us. He’s a perfect line mate for Goose while he continues to adjust to the NHL. He’s the best defensive forward we have.

I think they should try to trade Greene and give Zajac the C until Hischier or Hughes is ready to lead the team. By then Zajac will probably be ready to retire.

If Zajac wants to be traded for a cup run before his career is over I think we should grant him his wish however.

 

[CREW99AW]

Hall Zajac retained- NYI Wilde 1st if resigned.
Thoughts?

I would have no interest in Hall without an extension agreement in place.

At last season's TDL, Lou was one of the final bidders for Stone
Both Vegas and the isles offering him extensions. He chose Vegas.

I have read Hall's recent comments about wanting to win SC championships, basically liking how Tavares took control of his ufa destiny.
Playing in NJ, the isles would hardly be a mystery to Hall. Either he would accept the isles extension offer or pass.

Another consideration for the isles are the raises due Barzal/Pulock/Toews.

 

[Shoofyou10]

As a Pens fan, no thanks on giving up a 1st for Vatanan

 

[Khelandros]

Travis Zajac (50% retained) to NYI for 2nd 2020 + 2nd 2021

-Zajac is overpaid at his full cap hit, but at 50% (2.875 AAV) he suddenly becomes a bargain 3C with one more year of term

Travis Zajac (50% retained) to NYI for 2nd 2020 + 2nd 2021

-Zajac is an elite defensive/PK center who is pretty reliable for 40-45 points a season when healthy

So which one is it?

 

[Puckclektr]

It might be better to space this out or add bullet points or something. Very hard to read.

Thanks. Done. I originally did it on mobile.

 

[Dr Pepper]

While I do get a chuckle out of the very idea of Hall and Seguin on the same team, I doubt Nill would make that move.

So which one is it?

It's possible to be elite and still be overpaid.

 

[Puckclektr]

So which one is it?

You can still be elite at something and be overpaid, especially when that value straps your team at the cap and you are near the end of a contract that paid your value to you in your prime. Toews is also overpaid at $10.5million.

 

[north49er]

It might be better to space this out or add bullet points or something. Very hard to read.

And maybe add in the other 23 teams just to clear it up.......

 

[Djp]

So these are just some ideas I’ve been thinking about. Obviously they are not all going to get traded and with NJ already deep at Centre and a good possibility that they may have a top pick again and draft the BPA which may be a centre, I am obviously going after defense or wingers . Keep in mind they are just ideas and are just starters and may need to be added or taken away.

These are not set offers either and may need to be tweaked by maybe adding to Hall or other Devils. With Hall it is hard to tell based off of a sign and trade as his value may a lot be worth more after a signing.

Hall retained-Dallas for Harley or Gurianov im thinking more Gurianov as Harley might be a little too much coming back for a rental as I don’t think Dallas has room to sign him next year.

Hall + Wood - ARizona Soderstrom, first if resigned.

Hall Zajac retained- NYI Wilde 1st if resigned.

zajac retained to NYI for 2nd

simmonds + Greene(retained) to TML for bracco 3rd 2021. Toronto desperately needs some grit and Greene is still a very serviceable bottom pairing defenseman who was arguably the best penalty killing defenseman in the league last year.

Vatanen- 1st from Pittsburgh or Washington

McLeod to Carolina for Jake Bean

miles Wood to Buffalo for McCabe. Thoughts?

McCabe >> wood who’s head consisrs of that only