Proposal: Nikita Zaitsev for Kris Russell

[migi]

Russell is a better defenceman than Zaitsev by a fair bit.

Maybe you guys forgot Liljegren?

1) No he is not.
2) Liljegren doesnt play for my team.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

1) No he is not.
2) Liljegren doesnt play for my team.

Disagree. Zaitsev brings nothing we need and doesn’t do anything especially well.

Russell is at least physical and blocks shots.

 

[migi]

Disagree. Zaitsev brings nothing we need and doesn’t do anything especially well.

Russell is at least physical and blocks shots.

Well I guess you didnt watch him one year ago.

Last season he had multiple injuries which affected him game. Going to rebound big time. And wow, Russell block shots. Woooow.

But oh well, there is no trade to be made and Leafs fans are very happy with it. Glad you are too.

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

Leafs say No

Zaitsev will bounce back, he had a lot going on last season

He is a legitimate top 4 d-man

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Well I guess you didnt watch him one year ago.

Last season he had multiple injuries which affected him game. Going to rebound big time. And wow, Russell block shots. Woooow.

But oh well, there is no trade to be made and Leafs fans are very happy with it. Glad you are too.

Zaitsev wasn’t that good in his ‘good’ season either. I don’t want him. Plenty of Leafs fans think he sucks too.

Russell is serviceable and brings an element we need. Isn’t signed until the end of time either.

 

[bukwas]

That's a no thanks from this Leaf fan.

 

[Brobust]

Zaitsev in 16-17 was better than Larsson.

 

[93gilmour93]

Bounce back to what? He's never had a good season

He was very good in his first season

 

[belair]

He isnt that bad lol

25-26 year old Stone? Just looking at it statistically, the numbers are quite similar. In Calgary Stone actually turned to stone, but back then he was a serviceable defenseman for the Yotes.

Regardless, I'd probably do it just because of the handedness.

 

[belair]

Zaitsev in 16-17 was better than Larsson.

You think so, huh?

 

[Brobust]

You think so, huh?

Well, Larsson did score those two goals in the playoffs. So he may be definitively better. Just like Draisaitl was worth $2 million more than Pastrnak because of that one playoff series.

 

[Knies iT]

Zaitsev wasn’t that good in his ‘good’ season either. I don’t want him. Plenty of Leafs fans think he sucks too.

Russell is serviceable and brings an element we need. Isn’t signed until the end of time either.

Didn’t realize I was talking to his father though so as you were Zaitsev Sr.

I'm sure a western Canadian Oiler fan watched a ton of Leaf games 1 year ago to form that opinion.

If a 36 point rookie season with heavy PK minutes isn't impressive, not sure what is. Mobile, two-way RHD who put up 36 points, can PK and engage physically are not being sold for a 31 year old Kris "own goal" Russell.

Since his rookie year, he's been used by Babcock as a shut down PKer, despite being a natural offensive D. This season he suffered a concussion, caught a severe virus, and broke his foot, all at different points in the year. Odds are that doesn't happen next season...

You have the talent evaluating skills akin to your team's GM.

 

[belair]

Well, Larsson did score those two goals in the playoffs. So he may be definitively better. Just like Draisaitl was worth $2 million more than Pastrnak because of that one playoff series.

Larsson also played strict defensive assignments against other teams' top offensive threats and he came out ahead. Larsson was one of the Oilers' MVPs in 16-17. The Oilers don't expect a lot of points out of him.

 

[Joey Moss]

Zaitsev being a RHD and showing ability to produce is nice and all but we can't afford to add cap and term.

 

[connormcmuffin]

He was very dependable in his rookie year.

Why would Toronto trade a RHD without one coming back?

Keep Russel and his contract. $500K doesn't mean anything to Toronto but it means something to Edmonton.

How was he dependable in his rookie year.

Rielly flourished this year because they took Zaitsev off his pairing. Gardiner flourished this year after Zaitsev was injured.

Proposing this deal because Zaitsev has a nightmare term on his contract and there may still be a window to cut losses.

 

[connormcmuffin]

Disagree. Zaitsev brings nothing we need and doesn’t do anything especially well.

Russell is at least physical and blocks shots.

Both players have limited skill sets. Zaitsev only strength is being great on the PK.

 

[connormcmuffin]

He was very good in his first season

This ought to be good how? By your eye test?

 

[Dr Quincy]

Well I guess you didnt watch him one year ago.

Last season he had multiple injuries which affected him game. Going to rebound big time. And wow, Russell block shots. Woooow.

But oh well, there is no trade to be made and Leafs fans are very happy with it. Glad you are too.

Because players with multiple injuries always rebound big time. Good to know.

Not a fan of either team, but Russell > Zaitsev.

 

[connormcmuffin]

I'm sure a western Canadian Oiler fan watched a ton of Leaf games 1 year ago to form that opinion.

If a 36 point rookie season with heavy PK minutes isn't impressive, not sure what is. Mobile, two-way RHD who put up 36 points, can PK and engage physically are not being sold for a 31 year old Kris "own goal" Russell.

Since his rookie year, he's been used by Babcock as a shut down PKer, despite being a natural offensive D. This season he suffered a concussion, caught a severe virus, and broke his foot, all at different points in the year. Odds are that doesn't happen next season...

You have the talent evaluating skills akin to your team's GM.

More than half of his points were secondary assists, he had PP time on the league's second place PP that year with also inflated his numbers. All those points disappeared the following year when his PP was taken away.

As for the PK, Maricin was good on the PK, Polak and Hunwick... PK skill is a marginal talent.

Zaitsev was in the bottom third of the league for zone exits and denying zone entries.

How was that a 'good year'

 

[JohnnyO]

More than half of his points were secondary assists, he had PP time on the league's second place PP that year with also inflated his numbers. All those points disappeared the following year when his PP was taken away.

As for the PK, Maricin was good on the PK, Polak and Hunwick... PK skill is a marginal talent.

Zaitsev was in the bottom third of the league for zone exits and denying zone entries.

How was that a 'good year'

I'm guessing you don't work in sales. No to the op from Toronto, hopefully Zaitsev turns things around this year.

 

[93gilmour93]

This ought to be good how? By your eye test?

Well tell me how many games did you watch Zaitsev play last season?

 

[Liferleafer]

Bounce back to what? He's never had a good season

And yet still better than Russel.

 

[connormcmuffin]

I'm guessing you don't work in sales. No to the op from Toronto, hopefully Zaitsev turns things around this year.

I am the OP and I wouldn't brag about working in sales, or polishing a the **** that is Zaitsev

 

[voxel]

Russell is just vastly overpaid. He’s a fine bottom pair D. Zaitsev - I have no interest in regardless of contract.

 

[voxel]

Says the guy who wants to trade for him. You Oiler fans take the cake, Edmonton is the Florida of Canada!

Lol. You just quoted a Leafs fans. Lots of infighting I guess