Nick Suzuki vs Josh Norris

[PatrickMcC]

Apologies if this has been done already. They're very comparable players, same age, similar production. Suzuki has been in the NHL for an extra year, he shined in the playoffs last year and established himself as one of the best forwards on the team, seems to have the better offensive instincts despite their production being very similar . Norris is having an awesome rookie season being played in all situations and gaining the trust of coach D.J. Smith, he's showing the characteristics of being a tremendously useful top line center. Which one of these young studs would you take and who will be the better player in the future?

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[Rhaegar Targaryen]

I went with Suzuki. I think he has a higher ceiling - I can see him as a #1 centre, whereas I see Norris topping out as a #2 centre.

Norris is a beast, though. He’ll be a very good #2 centre. Great faceoff stats for a rookie, and does little things right every game.

 

[NyQuil]

It's pretty close.

I'm pretty bullish on Norris, have been for some time, as I think he has the complete package and thinks the game like a seasoned veteran already.

A high-end ceiling type projection for him would be someone like Mark Scheifele IMO.

 

[Benttheknee]

Hmm, I'm a Sens fan, but this one is too close to call. I abstain!

 

[Hellraising Senator]

I can't in good conscious vote. Too jaded but this is one of those spots where you are basically flipping a two headed coin. You're gonna win no matter which side drops because they're both heads above tails

 

[Byron Bitz]

Suzuki, when you watch them both play he just looks like the more dynamic player out there.

 

[jbeck5]

Suzuki, when you watch them both play he just looks like the more dynamic player out there.

That's what I thought too, a dozen games ago. But I've noticed Norris become more and more noticeable with nice plays as hes putting up almost a ppg pace in his last dozen or so games while playing against top lines while being a rookie. Now I'm starting to get more excited about what he can be in year 2 or 3 or 4 of his career once he knows what he can and can't do at the NHL level. Looks like a bigger and stronger Kyle Turris. So a Turris-heavy

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Norris for me. I slightly prefer his defensive play ( though Suzuki is pretty solid as well ) and his shot seems to have more potential. Suzuki maybe better iq /playmaking. Does one have a big edge skating? I know Suzuki wasn't rated as a good skater in his draft year but that clearly is behind him. Pretty compelling poll as it should be fairly close/comparable . Something that you also can't measure; he just feels like a gamer. You just get the feeling he's going to beat you .

 

[Karl Eriksson]

Norris for me.

 

[CatchyTune]

I went with Suzuki. I think he has a higher ceiling - I can see him as a #1 centre, whereas I see Norris topping out as a #2 centre.

Norris is a beast, though. He’ll be a very good #2 centre. Great faceoff stats for a rookie, and does little things right every game.

Honestly, i dont think either will be bonafide 1C's, and that isnt an insult to either. some people just dont know what it takes to be a legit 1C.

I voted Suzuki but i think both will be very good 2C's, 60-70 point guys.

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Honestly, i dont think either will be bonafide 1C's, and that isnt an insult to either. some people just dont know what it takes to be a legit 1C.

I voted Suzuki but i think both will be very good 2C's, 60-70 point guys.

I don't disagree with most of what you said there but that's basically 1st line production. How many 70 pt centers are there? More than 30 in a typical (full) year?

 

[CatchyTune]

I don't disagree with most of what you said there but that's basically 1st line production. How many 70 pt centers are there? More than 30 in a typical (full) year?

that shouldnt matter. and a certain teams' 1C and a bonafide 1C are different things.

70 points for a center is low end 1st line production and depending on your overall game it could propel you into 1C status.

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

that shouldnt matter. and a certain teams' 1C and a bonafide 1C are different things.

70 points for a center is low end 1st line production and depending on your overall game it could propel you into 1C status.

Why should it not matter how many centers are producing at the rate you described to compare league wide. Seems like a very argument you are trying to present. However my intention was not to derail the thread. In my mind a 70 pt center is a first line player . How many 70 pt players are there period in a typical season?

 

[Puikiou]

Norris has better size, better skating, better goal scoring, better physical play.

Suzuki has better hands, better vision and is more ''naturally'' skilled.

Both are extremely intelligent and outstanding two way players.

Ottawa gladly sticks with Josh Norris.

 

[Sensinitis]

Good poll. Very close call.

 

[trentmccleary]

How many 70 pt players are there period in a typical season?

42 forwards who have played at least 23 games this year would be on pace for 70 points. But injuries would cut that number down over a full season.

Between 2015-2019, there were 27.4 forwards per year that hit 70 points.

 

[Rhaegar Targaryen]

Honestly, i dont think either will be bonafide 1C's, and that isnt an insult to either. some people just dont know what it takes to be a legit 1C.

I voted Suzuki but i think both will be very good 2C's, 60-70 point guys.

I was going to say Norris would be a high end #2 and Suzuki a lower-end #1. I think Suzuki could get by as a #1 guy in the future but I’m not sure you’d win a Cup with him as your best centre

 

[Rabid Ranger]

What screams #1 center with Suzuki?

 

[Bouboumaster]

What screams #1 center with Suzuki?

His IQ and his vision

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

42 forwards who have played at least 23 games this year would be on pace for 70 points. But injuries would cut that number down over a full season.

Between 2015-2019, there were 27.4 forwards per year that hit 70 points.

So in a typical season there are about 27 70 point forwards, let alone centres. Yet a 70 pt center isn't a 1st liner somehow?

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

To me Suzuki is a poor man’s Monahan. I take Norris all day.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Give me the guy who actually improved since last year in Norris.

 

[All Mod Cons]

Josh Norris. For all the flak Laffs fans get for overeating everyone, Montreal fans take the biscuit. Kotkiniemi is a 3rd line centre like Girgensons and Suzuki is OK, but not at Josh's level.

 

[KevSkillz4]

Suzuki and Kotkaniemi are going to be better center than all center in Ottawa. If Stutzle don't play C.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Suzuki and Kotkaniemi are going to be better center than all center in Ottawa. If Stutzle don't play C.

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