Nick Leddy's horrid season (defensively)

[Strait2thecup]

How do you explain the last two seasons prior to this year?

He was absolutely not good in his own zone last season. The one prior he was ok but it’s possible he was carried by boychuk

 

[Jester9881]

He was absolutely not good in his own zone last season. The one prior he was ok but it’s possible he was carried by boychuk

So it was Boychuk covering for Leddy? I just want to get the story straight for when Islander fans turn on him next (again). Maybe it's because there's no viable defensive system in place?

 

[Lays]

When you get the toughest matchups in the worst defensive system ever created, you’re going to be on the ice for a lot of goals.

Leddy doesn’t play for the Rangers

 

[Strait2thecup]

So it was Boychuk covering for Leddy? I just want to get the story straight for when Islander fans turn on him next (again). Maybe it's because there's no viable defensive system in place?

There isn’t... for sure. But leddy is still horrible in his own zone. They aren’t mutually exclusive

 

[Jester9881]

So when the Islanders turned it around after acquiring Leddy and Boychuk, it was just an anomoly. Is that what I'm getting? And when everyone was trashing Calvin de Haan, it was really Leddy... or was it the goaltending.... or Boychuk wasn't good enough? Because now apparently Calvin is good again in Islander fans eyes.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

How do you explain the last two seasons prior to this year?

Leddy's only good (defensive-wise) season was his first year as an Islander. He's been pretty sub-par the past 3 seasons (including this one). It could be argued that was an anomaly of a season, and the real Nick Leddy has shown up in 3 of his 4 seasons on Long Island.

Leddy's ability to skate the puck up the ice, I think, makes him look a lot more effective overall than he actually is.

 

[Jester9881]

It's like giving The Who childrens toy instruments to play then booing them off stage.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Oliver Chokeman-Larsson had this one in the bag, he was like a -35 after 40 games, I even made a thread about it. He was well on pace to come near one of the worst +/- seasons of all time and maybe even break the legendary record of -82 with some luck. Since then, he's actually been +2 in his last 35ish games. Really disappointing - when is the last time a guy had an opportunity at a historic record like that at the midpoint of the season and then completely blew it?

 

[Jester9881]

Leddy's only good (defensive-wise) season was his first year as an Islander. He's been pretty sub-par the past 3 seasons (including this one). It could be argued that was an anomaly of a season, and the real Nick Leddy has shown up in 3 of his 4 seasons on Long Island.

Leddy's ability to skate the puck up the ice, I think, makes him look a lot more effective overall than he actually is.

Wait a minute.... I've been told around here that Karlsson is the best defenseman in the world for the same reason.

 

[Jester9881]

There's nothing wrong with Nick Leddy as a top pairing offensive D. Anyone watching the Islanders objectively can plainly see how awful their defensive "system" is. No one would look good playing that format, and the more minutes you get, the worse you would look.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Wait a minute.... I've been told around here that Karlsson is the best defenseman in the world for the same reason.

Karlsson's vastly superior to Leddy in all aspects offensively, and is better positionally in the defensive zone. That's a weird defense of Leddy.

Leddy, IMO, is more similar to guys like Shattenkirk and Justin Schultz. Good offensively, but not guys you want matching up against the other team's best defensively. Ideally, all three are high-end second pairing guys who are sheltered behind a better top pairing.

 

[sr edler]

Oliver Chokeman-Larsson had this one in the bag, he was like a -35 after 40 games, I even made a thread about it. He was well on pace to come near one of the worst +/- seasons of all time and maybe even break the legendary record of -82 with some luck. Since then, he's actually been +2 in his last 35ish games. Really disappointing - when is the last time a guy had an opportunity at a historic record like that at the midpoint of the season and then completely blew it?

Perhaps it was you who blew in your analysis.

 

[PensandCaps]

He's an amazing Dman. Just on a horrible defensive team....any team would LOVE Leddy on their team. A good #2.

 

[t0nedeff]

only -7 worse than OEL, though.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Leddy is a good defenseman on a bad team with horrible goaltending. This shouldn't be shocking to anyone.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Nick Leddy shouldnt get the toughest matchups in the first place.

Why not? Is he not a top pairing defenseman?

 

[Al Lagoon]

Shut the ##$%^ up Leddy - you're out of your element.

 

[Jester9881]

Leddy, IMO, is more similar to guys like Shattenkirk and Justin Schultz. Good offensively, but not guys you want matching up against the other team's best defensively. Ideally, all three are high-end second pairing guys who are sheltered behind a better top pairing.

So wait a second, if he's expected to be a Shattenkirk or Schultz (out scoring both by a healthy margin)..... why are we trashing the guy for not being a shut down D? How about placing the blame where it deserves to be? The asinine "system" Doug Weight has in place

 

[Jester9881]

Look at that picture and you get a better understanding of why the Islanders bleed shots on goal and goals against. BOTH defensemen and the center in the same corner, with BOTH wingers well below the top of the circles and on the same side of the ice. This isn't an anomaly, this is what they are being told to do. No one covering the front of the net.... typically, the point men stay well back of the Islanders wingers. When the puck is passed to the point, everyone scrambles to get back into a box formation.

 

[zeke]

exactly why +/- is such a terrible stat - it can trick you into thinking your best players are your worst.

 

[Jester9881]

exactly why +/- is such a terrible stat - it can trick you into thinking your best players are your worst.

And Thomas Hickey, who is the weakest link on that defense leads the team in +/-

 

[zeke]

And Thomas Hickey, who is the weakest link on that defense leads the team in +/-

yep.

it's hilarious how awful a stat it is.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Leddy is good the isles are just poorly coached

 

[Hawkaholic]

Probably Quennevilles fault.

 

[oobga]

Russell for Leddy? Come on Snow, throw us a bone.