GDT: NHL draft 2014 - Day 2 - Where we have no picks but JR trades Crosby for Cap space.

Jaded-Fan · Jun 28, 2014

Thought that I would post a day 2 draft thread to be opened . . . well for day 2 when it starts:

http://www.hockeyprospect.com/nhl-draft-rankings/

Final ISS draft rankings (List updated June 3, 2014):
http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=114013

Penguins' NHL draft page:
http://penguins.nhl.com/club/draftprospectbrowse.htm?cat=1

Here is the TSN draft page:
http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/

Here is the NHL.com draft page:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/eventhome.htm?location=/draft/2014

Two more resources from Unrealmachine:
http://thehockeywriters.com/2014-nhl-draft-rankings-war-room-june-edition/
http://thehockeywriters.com/2014-nhl-draft-guide-the-next-ones/

Just remember that over a third of first round picks bust. Let's get this one right.

Round 1 Results:

No.
|

Team

|

Player

|

Pos.

|

Drafted from

1|Florida|Aaron Ekblad|

D

|Barrie (OHL)
2|Buffalo|Sam Reinhart|

C

|Kootenay (WHL)
3|Edmonton|Leon Draisaitl|

C

|Prince Albert (WHL)
4|Calgary|Sam Bennett|

C

|Kingston (OHL)
5|NY Islanders|Michael Dal Colle|

LW

|Oshawa (OHL)
6|Vancouver|Jake Virtanen|

LW

|Calgary (WHL)
7|Carolina|Haydn Fleury|

D

|Red Deer (WHL)
8|Toronto|William Nylander|

LW

|MODO (SHL)
9|Winnipeg|Nikolaj Ehlers|

LW

| Halifax (QMJHL)

|
10|Anaheim|Nick Ritchie|

LW/RW

LW

LW

LW

| Linkoping (SHL)
14|Dallas|Julius Honka|

D

C

C/LW

D

RW

D

C

C

RW

C

C

RW

RW

|Saskatoon (WHL)
27|San Jose|Nikolay Goldobin|

RW

C/RW

C

C

|Brandon (WHL)|

* Sharks trade #20 and #179 to Blackhawks for #27 and #62
** The New York Rangers' first-round pick went to the New York Islanders as the result of a trade on June 27, 2014 that sent the Islanders and Montreal's second-round picks both in 2014 (35th and 57th overall) to Tampa Bay in exchange for this pick. Tampa Bay previously acquired this pick as the result of a trade on March 5, 2014 that sent Martin St. Louis to New York in exchange for Ryan Callahan, a first-round pick in 2015 and this pick (being conditional at the time of the trade). The condition — Tampa Bay will receive a first-round pick in 2014 if the Rangers advance to the 2014 Eastern Conference Final — was converted on May 13, 2014.

Wes C Addle · Jun 28, 2014

Would love to see some dead weight thrown overboard on Day 2. Scuderi/Adams (Scadams?) Lets see some ACTUAL cap dump moves and then have a shot to do something on July 1st.

Bennett Brauer · Jun 28, 2014

Yeah, let's trade Scuderi for a 3rd/4th. He will NOT fit in with what Mike Johnston wants to do.

Craig Adams is as good as gone IMO, JR got rid of him in Carolina, obviously doesn't find him useful anymore, I bet we can get a late pick for him from a contending team who wants a veteran 4th liner who is a solid PKer.

I think that's all the moves we HAVE to make, I'm cool with us keeping Pascal Dupuis, we can't just completely overhaul the team, there should be some familiarity kept. He's a leader in the locker room and a fan favorite. I think Duper stays.

But yes, please move Scuderi and Adams.

Jaded-Fan · Jun 28, 2014

Flat Stanley said:
Yeah, let's trade Scuderi for a 3rd/4th. He will NOT fit in with what Mike Johnston wants to do.

Craig Adams is as good as gone IMO, JR got rid of him in Carolina, obviously doesn't find him useful anymore, I bet we can get a late pick for him from a contending team who wants a veteran 4th liner who is a solid PKer.

I think that's all the moves we HAVE to make, I'm cool with us keeping Pascal Dupuis, we can't just completely overhaul the team, there should be some familiarity kept. He's a leader in the locker room and a fan favorite. I think Duper stays.

But yes, please move Scuderi and Adams.

The thing with Scuderi and Adams is we hated them, so many think that they have zero value. But we hated them because Disco misused them, not that they were not useful in the right role.

Scuderi would be welcome on the right team, and do very well. Like MichÃ¡lek in Phoenix when he did not fit with us.

Adams as well has a role to play, and even could with us if properly used. But some team would want him if we did not.

KIRK · Jun 28, 2014

Flat Stanley said:
Yeah, let's trade Scuderi for a 3rd/4th. He will NOT fit in with what Mike Johnston wants to do.

Craig Adams is as good as gone IMO, JR got rid of him in Carolina, obviously doesn't find him useful anymore, I bet we can get a late pick for him from a contending team who wants a veteran 4th liner who is a solid PKer.

I think that's all the moves we HAVE to make, I'm cool with us keeping Pascal Dupuis, we can't just completely overhaul the team, there should be some familiarity kept. He's a leader in the locker room and a fan favorite. I think Duper stays.

But yes, please move Scuderi and Adams.

Push comes to shove, I'd offer to eat a million a year of Scuderi's deal to move him. Failing that, I'd buy him out. You can have one of the kids in his place and save money. That one, admittedly, is the 2nd to worst option available. It just happens that the worst is to pay him to actually play for the Pens.

Speaking Moistly · Jun 28, 2014

Jaded-Fan said:
The thing with Scuderi and Adams is we hated them, so many think that they have zero value. But we hated them because Disco misused them, not that they were not useful in the right role.

Scuderi would be welcome on the right team, and do very well. Like MichÃ¡lek in Phoenix when he did not fit with us.

Adams as well has a role to play, and even could with us if properly used. But some team would want him if we did not.

I think Scuderi is the most moveable out of SAD, but he also has that modified NTC and the cap has ****ed some teams over already. Good luck moving Adams, he's beyond being a veteran 4th liner and he can't skate, I think he plays 13th forward for the season.

Dipsy Doodle · Jun 28, 2014

So when does the 2nd round get started, anyway?

Bennett Brauer · Jun 28, 2014

I believe 10AM and it concludes at 3pm

Asuna · Jun 28, 2014

Flat Stanley said:
I believe 10AM and it concludes at 3pm

Is it a 3 day event?

Dipsy Doodle · Jun 28, 2014

Flat Stanley said:
I believe 10AM and it concludes at 3pm

Ah, thanks.

66-30-33 · Jun 28, 2014

Weird not doing a full 2 rounds on day 1....

Zen Arcade · Jun 28, 2014

I'm fine with moving Dupuis, let Spaling fill his role on the third line and PK. Get someone like Downie to play on the other side of Sutter.

Jules Winnfield · Jun 28, 2014

Wish there was a way we could get a 2nd to get either Barbashev or Lemieux.

Maybe by the time we pick Karlsson, Smith, or Aube-Kubel will somehow be around.

Pharrell Williams · Jun 28, 2014

I'm probably going to end up going to sleep like right before the draft because it's ****ing summer, so I hope I wake up with texts from the Pens saying we traded Dupuis for a second to get Barbashev. Or like we traded Letang for Pacioretty. Or we traded Crosby for John Scott. Or something like that.

Frederick Stanley · Jun 28, 2014

agent00 said:
Is it a 3 day event?

No, two days.

Rounds 2-7
Start time (Saturday): 7 a.m. PT / 10 a.m. ET
TV: NHLN

Shrimper · Jun 28, 2014

Hope we can get a 2nd or 3rd.

Michael8771* · Jun 28, 2014

Shrimper said:
Hope we can get a 2nd or 3rd.

I'd prefer we add a piece via trade that helps us this year. I think you'll see us make another trade today.

canadianguy77 · Jun 28, 2014

Jaded-Fan said:
The thing with Scuderi and Adams is we hated them, so many think that they have zero value. But we hated them because Disco misused them, not that they were not useful in the right role.

Scuderi would be welcome on the right team, and do very well. Like MichÃ¡lek in Phoenix when he did not fit with us.

Adams as well has a role to play, and even could with us if properly used. But some team would want him if we did not.

I agree with you on Scuds. Adams....I just can't. I loathe that man with every fiber
of my being. I legitimately hate that guy...with like...real hate.

I've never even met him, and I don't hate anyone IRL. :laugh:

I think I might be a little sick in the head. :help:

Frederick Stanley · Jun 28, 2014

How many trades happened last year in rounds 2-7?

Michael8771* · Jun 28, 2014

Five......... maybe.

Shrimper · Jun 28, 2014

I don't expect us to get a 2nd or 3rd but would be nice. Would've been nice to have Nashville's 2nd!

If he is somehow still available in the fourth round when we pick we should go with Kamanev.

PartyatMarios · Jun 28, 2014

Jules Winnfield said:
Wish there was a way we could get a 2nd to get either Barbashev or Lemieux.

Maybe by the time we pick Karlsson, Smith, or Aube-Kubel will somehow be around.

This. Couldn't agree more. The more I read about Lemieux and especially Karlsson I would have loved to pick up a 2nd from Nashville or find another way.

KIRK · Jun 28, 2014

PartyatMarios said:
This. Couldn't agree more. The more I read about Lemieux and especially Karlsson I would have loved to pick up a 2nd from Nashville or find another way.

We could move Sutter instead of paying him 3.5M. We just acquired a guy who can be a 3C in the Neal deal who will cost less.

deakka · Jun 28, 2014

after the 2/3 round thins move so fast its almost impossible to make trades. any trades (of major proportions) involving picks will probably be made in the 2nd round is my guess. I read our new coach really like Baertschi (ofc since hes coached him). I wonder if there is a deal there to be made.

Also, we should really look into getting a 2nd rounder. still lots of talent on the board. If we dont find a suitor for Scuderi i wouldnt be suprised to see martin go for a 2nd rounder+something else. This due to cap reasons

Uncle Machete · Jun 28, 2014

Hoping Viktor Arvidsson is there at #113. Overager but that isn't necissarily a bad thing for where the Pens are at depth wise.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=27484

GDT: NHL draft 2014 - Day 2 - Where we have no picks but JR trades Crosby for Cap space.

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