NHL: Around the League 46

[BobbyJet]

They are slowly getting better at tracking it. Possession still has value but not like it did and how some still value it.

For the millionth time, hockey is not baseball. You can try and define it with fancy numbers until you're blue in the face but it just won't work. But I know some will keep trying.

 

[ClydeLee]

For the millionth time, hockey is not baseball. You can try and define it with fancy numbers until you're blue in the face but it just won't work. But I know some will keep trying.

You seem so set on this. But what is so set on stone about baseball? Is the world series winner set in stone? Who will it be based on the stats? ... but you say they can't do what they do in baseball in the NHL, what is it you think they're saying? You seem set on this illusion of what people are saying.

 

[BK]

For the millionth time, hockey is not baseball. You can try and define it with fancy numbers until you're blue in the face but it just won't work. But I know some will keep trying.

Where have I EVER said it was?

 

[JaegerDice]

This

It's a good breakdown.

He's using the term possession more literally than people like me, though. He's using it in the micro-stat sense, time actually holding the puck, controlled entries and exits, etc.

As far as Corsi and xGF, there's nothing incompatible with dumping the puck in, just so long as you can get it back, put shots toward the net, get the puck back when they miss, get blocked, or rebound off the goalie, repeat as necessary.

The Kings teams from 2012-2014 are some of the best possession (as in Corsi and xGF) teams of the era. They dumped and chased all the time.

 

[Drumman44]

 

[clydesdale line]

Oh my...

 

[hawksrule]

Oh my...

I could have sworn McDavid had Covid months ago.

 

[JaegerDice]

I could have sworn McDavid had Covid months ago.

I think that was Matthews.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

OK FOR TODAY USE DRAFT GDT FOR AROUND NHL TRADES/RUMORS , etc

 

[CourtneyDagger50]

Sup? I'm back. There's Blackhawks stuff to talk about.

 

[BobbyJet]

Where have I EVER said it was?

It wasn't directed at you.... but rather a generalization to those who continue to evalute players based on so-called advanced stats.

 

[BK]

It wasn't directed at you.... but rather a generalization to those who continue to evalute players based on so-called advanced stats.

Ah ok. My bad.

 

[JaegerDice]

I'm not sure he would waive his NMC for it, but if Stamkos is not untouchable as Mckenzie reported, I could see MTL as a landing spot.

They have the cap space, they have the assets (tons of picks and a highly ranked prospect pool).

I could see Bergevin offering a big package for Stamkos.

I'm just not sure he's willing to leave Tampa.



EDIT: That said, it looks like NSH is doing everything they can to clear space too. So maybe they'll make a pitch for him? I could more easily see Stamkos going to Nashville than Montreal.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

 

[JaegerDice]

Canucks are losing talent in all the wrong places.

They need to get rid of basically their entire 4th line, then they'd have more than enough to keep these complementary players in their top 9 and on D.

 

[Drumman44]

Is there anyone worth looking at that hasn’t been qualified? Athanasiou, Stecher, etc

 

[x Tame Impala]

Is there anyone worth looking at that hasn’t been qualified? Athanasiou, Stecher, etc

I thought Athanasiou skated really well and isn't afraid to get his body in the way. I really, REALLY didn't like him trying to lay out DeBrincat in the last .5 seconds of the Edm/Chi series though. Classless.

 

[BobbyJet]

I'm not sure he would waive his NMC for it, but if Stamkos is not untouchable as Mckenzie reported, I could see MTL as a landing spot.

They have the cap space, they have the assets (tons of picks and a highly ranked prospect pool).

I could see Bergevin offering a big package for Stamkos.

I'm just not sure he's willing to leave Tampa.



EDIT: That said, it looks like NSH is doing everything they can to clear space too. So maybe they'll make a pitch for him? I could more easily see Stamkos going to Nashville than Montreal.

Stamkos has had a few frustrating campaigns lately ...... despite the Cup win he is a prime candidate who could use a change of scenery.

 

[Giovi]

Stamkos has had a few frustrating campaigns lately ...... despite the Cup win he is a prime candidate who could use a change of scenery.

They just won the cup without him. I'd say your right, he's probably high on their list of guys they'd like to move.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

 

[TLEH]

Wallmark is a decent player

 

[Hawkaholic]

I'm not sure he would waive his NMC for it, but if Stamkos is not untouchable as Mckenzie reported, I could see MTL as a landing spot.

They have the cap space, they have the assets (tons of picks and a highly ranked prospect pool).

I could see Bergevin offering a big package for Stamkos.

I'm just not sure he's willing to leave Tampa.



EDIT: That said, it looks like NSH is doing everything they can to clear space too. So maybe they'll make a pitch for him? I could more easily see Stamkos going to Nashville than Montreal.

TB is not getting high ranked prospects and first round picks for Stamkos. He's injury riddled, makes close to 10mil, and every team knows the position TB is in. They will get quality assets, but not high end picks, and I don't see MTL giving up their 1st next year.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Devils bought out Cory Schneider

Its a shame injuries have taken toll on him

Its also shame that Devils essentially wasted his career especially those 3 years that he was pretty damn elite playing behind an awful team

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Wow that is an insane contract for Andersen

Absurd really

 

[RayP]

Wow that is an insane contract for Andersen

Absurd really

Yikes