News Article: News and Notes XXIV - ZOMG The Athletic Carolinas Incoming

[Unsustainable]

Holy ****balls.

Good or bad?

 

[Unsustainable]

I'm fairly certain PDG is a LW who has had to play RW because that's where the spots were. RW is not his natural side.

I’ve always remembered him on the right. McGinn then

 

[NotOpie]

Wow, took me a while to catch up...1st on the Whalers thing:

#ForgiveAndForget - as in, I'm not salty at all about New Englanders that are upset about the whole Hartford move thing. I feel bad for them because I know how I felt when the "Canes out of Carolina" rumors were rampant. So I can understand and forgive that anger and pissiness. In fact, I think we should let bygones by bygones in that regard.

The Forget part I don't want to do is forget that this franchise was, indeed, once the Whalers. I appreciate those of you who have that history and respect it. I especially think this whole thing would be cool if we honored those Whalers's players that actually made the trek down to Carolina, you know, sort of "...loaded up the truck and left for Beverly, er, uh, Raleigh (or Greensboro)...". That would be a neat thing to do in my mind.

And I'm also of similar mind to BBA....I think it's kind of interesting, kind of nice....like the logo and stuff, but it's mostly for the folks for which it matters. I'm a Hurricanes fan and that's what got me back into hockey. The rest is all just background music....oh, and my dick comes with its own bag. So why would I need to order another...

Yeah if a deal were to happen it would be Pesce +.

I spoke to this on a main board thread....you've got the add on the wrong side. Not because Pesce is more valuable...I'd even say that Nylander is a bit more of a skilled player. But Pesce plays the more valuable position and is signed for an absolute gem of a contract...a contract that would go a long way to solving some of Toronto's pending cap woes. Plus, Nylander isn't signed so you'd be trading for either an unsigned Nylander or a Nylander that you're likely paying $7 million a year. Advantage Carolina.

 

[RodTheBawd]

Did I miss the LCK bag of dicks reference?

Oh C'mon. You expect us to believe you don't know where to get one?

Yeah, your hotwife.

 

[Roboturner913]

Yeah, your hotwife.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Yeah, your hotwife.

Meh, expected comment, but as far as hotwife jokes on this forum go, that was one of your weaker attempts Rod.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I spoke to this on a main board thread....you've got the add on the wrong side. Not because Pesce is more valuable...I'd even say that Nylander is a bit more of a skilled player. But Pesce plays the more valuable position and is signed for an absolute gem of a contract...a contract that would go a long way to solving some of Toronto's pending cap woes. Plus, Nylander isn't signed so you'd be trading for either an unsigned Nylander or a Nylander that you're likely paying $7 million a year. Advantage Carolina.

I'm not sure I agree with this @NotOpie. I do agree the contract comes into play, but it depends on where you see Nylander slotted. I know he's not proven, but has a lot more experience in the past playing C than Aho does, and if that's how you view him, Pesce doesn't play a more valuable position.

 

[RodTheBawd]

Meh, expected comment, but as far as hotwife jokes on this forum go, that was one of your weaker attempts Rod.

Someone has to carry the banner.

And I of course never mean any disrespect to the actual Mrs. BBA, I am sure she is a very lovely, very attractive lady.

 

[A Star is Burns]

I don't even care if Pesce is equal or greater value. To get the deal done, I'd add a pick or prospect, or perhaps both. It would round out our team with a player who fits perfectly with our timeline, and we're still absolutely loaded with prospects and picks even should we make such a deal.

 

[NotOpie]

I'm not sure I agree with this @NotOpie. I do agree the contract comes into play, but it depends on where you see Nylander slotted. I know he's not proven, but has a lot more experience in the past playing C than Aho does, and if that's how you view him, Pesce doesn't play a more valuable position.

I take your point, buy Nylander has little to no NHL experience at C. He's almost exclusively been used at RW....or at least he's been much more successful there. In the end, this is contrasting Pesce's value with Nylander's. Aho's experience doesn't really come into play...unless you want to point out that in another, high level professional league he had significant success. But I think all of that muddies the argument.

So I'd still say, Pesce plays the more valuable position, has the much better contract (unless you believe WN will live up to a $7 million+ contract), and has already played Top pairing minutes. I think the difference isn't big, but I still feel pretty strongly that Toronto adds a noticeable piece if Pesce is going the other way.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Someone has to carry the banner.

And I of course never mean any disrespect to the actual Mrs. BBA, I am sure she is a very lovely, very attractive lady.

Oh, no worries. Mrs. BBA is well aware of the forum 26 hotwife joke. She laughs at my expense as much as you guys do

(I know that's a hanging curve right there).

 

[NotOpie]

Oh, no worries. Mrs. BBA is well aware of the forum 26 hotwife joke. She laughs at my expense as much as you guys do

(I know that's a hanging curve right there).

 

[Joe McGrath]

I'm fairly certain PDG is a LW who has had to play RW because that's where the spots were. RW is not his natural side.

I thought he played RW in college. I could be very wrong about that.

 

[bleedgreen]

As far as people saying the canes own the logo....do they?

Hartford got the rights for 20 years, which expired. Does that make it fair game to anyone? For some reason I thought maybe the league got it the rights, but that’s a thought from 20 years ago.

And I kinda agree with cptjeff. I would’ve been more than satisfied with them selling the jerseys in the store, wearing them in two regular season games is a little strong. Though I’m still ok with it, I get where Jeff is coming from.

 

[A Star is Burns]

We still have other parts of Hartford left on the team. Is anybody offended by our goal horn or John?

 

[Joe McGrath]

We still have other parts of Hartford left on the team. Is anybody offended by our goal horn or John?

Both the goal horn and John have been with the Canes 15 years longer than they were with the Whalers. It’s a little different.

The horn was 5 years before the move, John was with the team in PR but only became the play by play guy in the last couple of years.

 

[A Star is Burns]

Okay, but were any Canes fans specifically offended when that wasn't the case early on? If we wear these jerseys for longer than they did in Hartford, it's cool then if any of us is alive?

 

[cptjeff]

Personnel who stay with the team and team equipment that gets move is a great deal different than the branding and locally based identity. When a team moves, you get a team and a bunch of team related stuff with it, including players and broadcasters, but it's exceptionally rare to keep anything resembling the same brand. I don't have a problem with Forslund the same way I don't have a problem with Glen Wesley. But there ain't never been Whalers in North Carolina. Leave that dead and buried, at least as far as the active play of the team is concerned.

On the note of ownership, if you look up the trademarks on the USPTO website, they all seem to be dead. So anyone can sell any Hartford Whalers gear they want, I guess.

 

[Ole Gil]

In hindsight, I wonder if the Kings would rather have Zykov back instead of the 14 games of Kris Versteeg.

 

[Canes]

In hindsight, I wonder if the Kings would rather have Zykov back instead of the 14 games of Kris Versteeg.

Wrong trade. Nevermind. Thought it was the Sekera trade that brought Zykov here.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Wrong trade. Nevermind.

No, Sekera was a first (Gauthier) and McKeown.

We got Zykov in the Versteeg deal.

 

[Canes]

No, Sekera was a first (Gauthier) and McKeown.

We got Zykov in the Versteeg deal

Yep. Edited my post almost immiediately...

You're fast!

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Yep. Edited my post almost immiediately...

You're fast!

I confuse those two trades all the time as well.

 

[Roboturner913]

Meh, expected comment, but as far as hotwife jokes on this forum go, that was one of your weaker attempts Rod.

personally I thought the "you took your hotwife to five guys" incident was Oscar-worthy

 

[Lempo]

Personnel who stay with the team and team equipment that gets move is a great deal different than the branding and locally based identity. When a team moves, you get a team and a bunch of team related stuff with it, including players and broadcasters, but it's exceptionally rare to keep anything resembling the same brand. I don't have a problem with Forslund the same way I don't have a problem with Glen Wesley. But there ain't never been Whalers in North Carolina. Leave that dead and buried, at least as far as the active play of the team is concerned.

On the note of ownership, if you look up the trademarks on the USPTO website, they all seem to be dead. So anyone can sell any Hartford Whalers gear they want, I guess.

Wasn't there that legal case brewing just over that? I vaguely remember doing a gdt.

edit: https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/whalers-trademark-lawsuit-law-order-sound.2442553/

https://hfboards.mandatory.com/thre...-nhl-vs-jay-kennette-media-group-llc.2442565/

As of April 6th, 2018 looks like Jay Kennette abandoned their attempted registration oof the trademark as the result of Carolina Hurricanes opposition to it:

Trademark Status & Document Retrieval

"Abandoned after an inter partes decision by the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board. For further information, see TTABVUE on the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board web page"

USPTO TTABVUE. Trademark Trial and Appeal Board Inquiry System

I don't think just anyone can sell HW merch, Hurricanes has a legit claim to the IP the very least.