News and Notes XVI: RF's Vision Quest

[RodTheBawd]

voyageur is my new favorite poster

I started loading up the multi quotes until I realized I'd just get another infraction.

At the very least, I learned that stadia is plural for stadium.

 

[TheOllieC]

Not sure if this belongs here or in the Aho thread, but this is quite possibly Luke's most chipper piece about the Canes in years:

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/luke-decock/article79181892.html

"Finland’s Sebastian Aho, center, and Canada’s Morgan Rilles"

lol

 

[Roboturner913]

"Finland’s Sebastian Aho, center, and Canada’s Morgan Rilles"

lol

Note the photographer is Russian. Photographers generally can't spell worth a crap anyway, involve translations and you're gonna see a lot of goofy stuff.

 

[Roboturner913]

Think we'll sign Wesley?

What's his outlook anyway? 6th/7th guy? If he's anything like his old man seems like he'd at least be a guy you could call up and know he won't get you killed back there. Assuming that Jordan is gone, mainly because I can't conceive of any reason they would want to keep him.

 

[Joe McGrath]

What's his outlook anyway? 6th/7th guy? If he's anything like his old man seems like he'd at least be a guy you could call up and know he won't get you killed back there. Assuming that Jordan is gone, mainly because I can't conceive of any reason they would want to keep him.

From what I can gather he's a 6/7....in Charlotte.

 

[NotOpie]

From what I can gather he's a 6/7....in Florida.

Fixed

 

[cptjeff]

Play for the hurricanes - get a job for life.

Every other team in the league does the exact same thing. It's not illogical, either. If you play in the NHL for a decade or so, you tend to get a bit of an idea of what to watch for in hockey players. And if you know a team's management well, as players do, you know how they think and what traits they're looking for in building a team.

 

[GoldiFox]

If Pitkanen really did sell the Canes on Aho (As suggested on the MB) then I would offer him a job ASAP too. Aho is vying for the Canes' best steal in recent history which is saying a lot when you have Faulk, Slavin, Rask, and Pesce in the mix.

 

[raynman]

If I remember correctly John and Tripp frequently spoke about how Joni was a student of the game and watched a ton of games.

 

[Roboturner913]

If Pitkanen really did sell the Canes on Aho (As suggested on the MB) then I would offer him a job ASAP too. Aho is vying for the Canes' best steal in recent history which is saying a lot when you have Faulk, Slavin, Rask, and Pesce in the mix.

Difference between recognizing talent and helping develop talent though. As good as Pitkanen was, he never struck me as the type that was technically sound and depended a lot on his size and skating to get around more than fundamentals. The guys on the staff now (Brindy, Wesley, Stillman) were all players that thrived on fundamentals and had a solid base to fall back on when things didn't go right. I always thought that was why Pitkanen was kind of up-and-down as a player, when he was going good things were great, but when he was going bad he was just a total disaster and didn't even look like he was playing the same game as everybody else.

I admit I could be completely off-base with this, it's just always the impression I had of him that he leaned mostly on natural ability.

 

[tarheelhockey]

From what I can gather he's a 6/7....in Charlotte.

Yeah, last I heard he had not progressed well.

 

[Joe McGrath]

Difference between recognizing talent and helping develop talent though. As good as Pitkanen was, he never struck me as the type that was technically sound and depended a lot on his size and skating to get around more than fundamentals. The guys on the staff now (Brindy, Wesley, Stillman) were all players that thrived on fundamentals and had a solid base to fall back on when things didn't go right. I always thought that was why Pitkanen was kind of up-and-down as a player, when he was going good things were great, but when he was going bad he was just a total disaster and didn't even look like he was playing the same game as everybody else.

I admit I could be completely off-base with this, it's just always the impression I had of him that he leaned mostly on natural ability.

Well he's a scout so he just has to recognize talent. Seems like a good fit.

 

[NotOpie]

Whither Victor Rask....

 

[Roboturner913]

Need to get him locked up long-term.

The most recent comparable I can find is Toffoli, he got 2 years, 6.5 million as an RFA last summer after a 23-goal, 49-point season. Would be nice to lock up Rask for 4-5 years, if possible, 3.25m/avg. seems like a steal to me.

 

[FreshSeabass]

How about inking rask to a justin faulk like deal. Somewhere in the 3 mil to 4.5 mil range?

 

[Unsustainable]

I'd like a 6 year deal for Rask, though we are going to be getting hit hard in a few years with all of our young talent needing contracts

 

[FreshSeabass]

Agreed i rather avoid a bridge contact for a guy like Rask that way at the end of 2-3 years were going to have to give him a significant pay bump(Depending on performance of course), and on top of that having to lock up our group of young d-men around the same time. Could turn into a clusterEff.

 

[FreshSeabass]

Ronnie Francis wants all the d-men!!!

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

That's a bit of a surprise.

 

[A Star is Burns]

I for one am glad to hear that. Getting more dmen opens up more possibilities. Getting a guy like that while giving up nothing would have been nice. Nice to see after nabbing Ryan last year and coming close on Nakladal last year that we are in on these types of guys.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Need to get him locked up long-term.

The most recent comparable I can find is Toffoli, he got 2 years, 6.5 million as an RFA last summer after a 23-goal, 49-point season. Would be nice to lock up Rask for 4-5 years, if possible, 3.25m/avg. seems like a steal to me.

A 4 year extension takes Rask to unrestricted free agency, I believe. A 5 year extension, thus, only buys out a year of unrestricted free agency. If a long-term extension is the direction the talks go in, I think GMRF would be wise to go for more in the way of team control (6-7 years.)

Thinking of a long-term 2nd contract, a comparable Middle 6 center is Nick Bjugstad.

http://www.generalfanager.com/players/882

Adam Henrique works as well.

http://www.generalfanager.com/players/1251

I wouldn't be upset with 6 years, $24-$25 mil for Rask.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

I just learned that Victor Rask has a sister who plays hockey for hv71. Her name is Fanny.

 

[Brock Anton]

Yeah, I too am surprised that we were after another youngish LHD. More competition never hurt anyone I guess.

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

sign rask

maek pikkinen the gm

????

profit

 

[NotOpie]

A 4 year extension takes Rask to unrestricted free agency, I believe. A 5 year extension, thus, only buys out a year of unrestricted free agency. If a long-term extension is the direction the talks go in, I think GMRF would be wise to go for more in the way of team control (6-7 years.)

Thinking of a long-term 2nd contract, a comparable Middle 6 center is Nick Bjugstad.

http://www.generalfanager.com/players/882

Adam Henrique works as well.

http://www.generalfanager.com/players/1251

I wouldn't be upset with 6 years, $24-$25 mil for Rask.

To me, the perfect deal for both parties is 5 years at $22 million. It gets us cost certainty for a while and slots the contract renegotiation a couple of years after Faulk's. 4 years would work too. If I'm Victor I want to hit UFA status (or renewal with the Canes) when I'm 28 and still have some prime years left. If he proves to be a consistent mid 50 point guy, his next contract would easily get him $6 million per.