TSN: New York Islanders' Lou Lamoriello named GM of the Year - TSN.ca

[Coachcorner]

have you ever thought a movie didn't deserve to win an oscar?

This real life sire. Not the films or the movies. Real people 31 gm's as colleagues voted for the real man who took komarov and martin from US in the same plane, flew to the island and got his dirt together. Got Barry Trotz the best coach Pageau, Greene, Varlamov ALL HUGE ROLES. these gm's don't play sire, naaah, not at all. They vote for the best of the best. Not bad for a 78 year old. Clappin my hands real hard here sire. Smoking this cigar for Lou, for life man. You did it again sire, you did again Lou. 3 Cups, changed the game, still hard. Big thangs.

 

[Merrrlin]

Vote totals.

Imo it's crazy Tampa didn't win this by a landslide

Agreed. Lou barely did anything this year and Isles likely miss if not for COVID.

 

[frog]

This man is a complete boss, he came to the leafs bringing in and keeping guys that will win you a Stanley Cup.. Komarov, Martin, Curtis Mackelany, Marleau.... If he was on the leafs he never would have traded kadri. It's quite possible leafs would be in the Stanley Cup finals Instead of trading for Barrie and kerfoot... I miss having a hall of fame gm

 

[Leafs at Knight]

Imagine legitimately getting upset that some Leafs fans dislike LL because he was a bad GM for the most part when he was here.

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

I thought they would have given it to Kyle Dubas...

Dubas would only get award votes for best GM if it was voted on by NHL player agents.

 

[Coachcorner]

Vote totals.

Imo it's crazy Tampa didn't win this by a landslide

O that's hard sire. Thanks for putting this post in. A landslide for Lou

 

[Mickey Marner]

I think McCrimmon should've won.

Notably traded for Lehner and Martinez and has had the greatest amount of say in roster acquisitions and signings as he was previously the AGM from day one.

He was also offered a position with us, but turned it down.

 

[Cor]

And the GM who gave 4 players $40 million/half the salary cap, trading consecutive 1st round picks away, and then promptly missed the playoffs?

What kind of an award does that type of GM deserve?

Who said that GM deserves an award?

 

[Leaf Fans]

And the GM who gave 4 players $40 million/half the salary cap, trading consecutive 1st round picks away, and then promptly missed the playoffs?

What kind of an award does that type of GM deserve?

Sam award as the other 30 GMs who didn't win GM of the year.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

so your telling me you know more than the 41 panel members, including 31 gm's lol ok....

Congrats to me I guess!

If this is how the '41 panel members, including 31 GM's' is going to vote, they might as well just default the award to the Cup-winning GM, because they clearly base the award on team success for that year more than what the GM specifically does (if you want evidence of that claim, look at the previous winners of the award). For example, Jim Nill made practically no moves this year (he signed Perry, Sekera, and Pavelski while trading Pitlick for Hartman) and was a finalist for the award, even though none of those moves really separates him from most GM's in the league this year. The Stars' team success mostly stems from moves he made over a few years, but this is not a "Best GM of the past few years" award.

They already default to giving the Conn Smythe to a player who was on the Cup-winning team, so it is not like it is a major stretch for these panels.

 

[Cleetus]

Congrats to me I guess!

If this is how the '41 panel members, including 31 GM's' is going to vote, they might as well just default the award to the Cup-winning GM, because they clearly base the award on team success for that year more than what the GM specifically does (if you want evidence of that claim, look at the previous winners of the award). For example, Jim Nill made practically no moves this year (he signed Perry, Sekera, and Pavelski while trading Pitlick for Hartman) and was a finalist for the award, even though none of those moves really separates him from most GM's in the league this year. The Stars' team success mostly stems from moves he made over a few years, but this is not a "Best GM of the past few years" award.

They already default to giving the Conn Smythe to a player who was on the Cup-winning team, so it is not like it is a major stretch for these panels.

well I take what the panel and GM's vote on with credibility than some random poster on a forum, when someone wins an award where his peers are voting on is a pretty nice thing to win.... but again downplay it all you want his team performed... there are 27 other teams who wish they are where the isles are now....

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

And the GM who gave 4 players $40 million/half the salary cap, trading consecutive 1st round picks away, and then promptly missed the playoffs?

What kind of an award does that type of GM deserve?

So when Lee/Pageau/Eberle/Nelson start scoring even less and are making almost $30M per season into their mid-30's which group would you rather have?

Lou might play hardball with star players (which goes against him at times) but he always goves out wayyyyy to much money and term to veteran players that don't produce much.

That team is in a world of hurt the next couple seasons, it's like when New Jersey made their finals run all over again. They should have missed the playoffs this year under normal circumstances and likely will get worse as one of the oldest teams in the league.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Who said that GM deserves an award?

It's easier to make a case that Dubas wasn't the GM of the year than to make a case that Lou was

 

[SeaOfBlue]

This real life sire. Not the films or the movies. Real people 31 gm's as colleagues voted for the real man

You realize that the Oscars are voted on by a specifically-voted upon a group of industry experts... Literally the exact same thing as what determines this award.

The production and performance of those films are as much "real life" as the production and performance of players and producers in this sport.

Who said that GM deserves an award?

Brian Burke

I wonder what he has to say about this.

 

[Coachcorner]

You realize that the Oscars are voted on by a specifically-voted upon a group of industry experts... Literally the exact same thing as what determines this award.

The production and performance of those films are as much "real life" as the production and performance of players and producers in this sport.



Brian Burke

I wonder what he has to say about this.

Oscars and films with ice hockey /not acted but real pain and hurting and dying) are the same sire I will remember this for rest of my life. Thank you.

 

[Stephen]

Ironically, Garth Snow pretty much put together most of the functional pieces of that Islander team. Lou hired the coach and backfilled the roster with grit grinders.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

well I take what the panel and GM's vote on with credibility than some random poster on a forum, when someone wins an award where his peers are voting on is a pretty nice thing to win.... but again downplay it all you want his team performed... there are 27 other teams who wish they are where the isles are now....

Of course you do, because it matches your agenda. Go with the subjectivity when it goes your way. Don't worry, I would be the same way most of the time, if subjectivity was the only way for something to be determined.

However if the basis of the award, and the current and past results clearly reflect this, has nothing to do with how good a GM does in that particular year; only his team. If NYI lost Game 7 against the Flyers last round, does Lou win? Based on those results, and the results of the past 10 years, that is almost certainly a 'no', and the only difference between that scenario and reality is one game. If Colorado beat Dallas, does Sakic make the top 3 instead of Nill (or even win over Lou)? Probably.

For an award like this, I don't care who is voting or how much of an expert they are, or even who won and lost, I would expect everyone to think twice about the legitimacy of the process. I may not be on that panel, or a GM in the league, but I know enough about processes to know when one is flawed.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Oscars and films with ice hockey /not acted but real pain and hurting and dying) are the same sire I will remember this for rest of my life. Thank you.

Glad I could help.

 

[Cleetus]

Of course you do, because it matches your agenda. Go with the subjectivity when it goes your way. Don't worry, I would be the same way most of the time, if subjectivity was the only way for something to be determined.

However if the basis of the award, and the current and past results clearly reflect this, has nothing to do with how good a GM does in that particular year; only his team. If NYI lost Game 7 against the Flyers last round, does Lou win? Based on those results, and the results of the past 10 years, that is almost certainly a 'no', and the only difference between that scenario and reality is one game. If Colorado beat Dallas, does Sakic make the top 3 instead of Nill (or even win over Lou)? Probably.

For an award like this, I don't care who is voting or how much of an expert they are, or even who won and lost, I would expect everyone to think twice about the legitimacy of the process. I may not be on that panel, or a GM in the league, but I know enough about processes to know when one is flawed.

well you better call in your concerns to the NHL lol, you can say its flawed all you want but the the voting process is done among other GM's, and when your peers vote on a award it sure means something to me anyways... if you dont care who is voting when they hold prestige positions in the league you watch than not sure what to tell you, its an odd flex how you claim you know more than the NHL GM's I will take their word, before some poster fan on here. calling out an agenda is a cop out too, I want the leafs to win just like you....

 

[Metroid]

It's pretty amazing you can win GM of the year by making no moves of importance, and be carried by great goaltending.
Shows how useless the award is.

Conspiracy to get people on hf boards to do you know what lol

 

[egd27]

Wish the Leafs could find someone that could win the GM of the Year............

 

[SeaOfBlue]

well you better call in your concerns to the NHL lol, you can say its flawed all you want but the the voting process is done among other GM's, and when your peers vote on a award it sure means something, and you dont know my agenda nice try.....

I am not clairvoyant, but I am also not stupid and you are very transparent with your thoughts... Which is actually not a bad thing if you think about it.

I don't have any concerns. My stance has been that it is a questionable award which is flawed. If people find honour out of that, then great, but it defeats the purpose of awards. I am sure the NHL is smart enough to figure that out on their own

 

[Cleetus]

I am not clairvoyant, but I am also not stupid and you are very transparent with your thoughts... Which is actually not a bad thing if you think about it.

I don't have any concerns. My stance has been that it is a questionable award which is flawed. If people find honour out of that, then great, but it defeats the purpose of awards. I am sure the NHL is smart enough to figure that out on their own

I still think when peers vote on a award no matter who, or what its for, and vote you number 1 its a nice feeling, and a great honor...

 

[Leaf Fans]

Wish the Leafs could find someone that could win the GM of the Year............

They have someone who could win the award

 

[Superstar]

Wish the Leafs could find someone that could win the GM of the Year............

They shipped him to Robidas Island...