hamzarocks
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You seriously are in deep shit then. He has shown absolutely nothing to warrant such a statement
The best case with him is I trust him enough to give him one final shot
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The best case with him is I trust him enough to give him one final shot
Dubas IMHO assembled a fantastic team and addressed all the "issues" and deficiencies from last year. This was one of the best Leafs teams I have ever seen, I would go as far as to say the D was as good as the Rouse/Macoun/Ellet/Gill/Lefebvre days. That aside, if Dubas did a great job assembling the team, who is responsible for not executing? Coach/players or both?
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showtime8
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Most GM's get 2 bullets to use to keep/save their jobs:
1. Fire the Coach
2. Trade an impact roster player
Dubas has used the coach chip and he has yet to use the trade avenue. The problem is, you're going to have to show enough to Shanahan and ownership that you should be the one to pull the trigger on making the trade. His conviction that having talent will win you games hasn't worked in the post-season, so he has to have the stones to admit that he was wrong and alter some of the direction.
1. Fire the Coach
2. Trade an impact roster player
Dubas has used the coach chip and he has yet to use the trade avenue. The problem is, you're going to have to show enough to Shanahan and ownership that you should be the one to pull the trigger on making the trade. His conviction that having talent will win you games hasn't worked in the post-season, so he has to have the stones to admit that he was wrong and alter some of the direction.
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We can't afford talented grit, we can only afford league minimum grit.
ULF_55
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I don't see this disgrace as Dubas fault.
Other than 1 horrific contract he has done okay.
No one believed their downfall was a pathetic performance from the first line. The first line didn't even have to be good, it could have been average and they could have won.
We see a great deal of talent but getting by on talent alone seems to be where some are stuck, maybe a wake up call via trade is the only way to shake their complacency.
Other than 1 horrific contract he has done okay.
No one believed their downfall was a pathetic performance from the first line. The first line didn't even have to be good, it could have been average and they could have won.
We see a great deal of talent but getting by on talent alone seems to be where some are stuck, maybe a wake up call via trade is the only way to shake their complacency.
Aus34Matt
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He'd already tried for this playoff push and blew it. The 1st rounder could turn out as bust but for an injured Foligno?
That's one ugly trade.. he really sucks as a GM guys.
HolyCrap
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Exactly. And we don’t seem to draft talented grit either.
I suppose it was a combination of the players Dubas assembled and the coach Dubas chose.
But I'm just spit ballin'
showtime8
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How can you predict an injury? And I wouldn't consider Foligno an impact roster player. It was more directed to the core players.
Martin Skoula
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There's maybe 15-20 top-6 level legitimately gritty players in the league. If you're not getting a Tkachuk/Wilson level guy, there really isn't much difference among the 3 mil and 1.5 mil bottom 6 grit guys. Problem is Tkachuk/Wilson types don't hit UFA or get traded very often. The ones that do hit UFA are almost exclusively Clarkson/Clowe level albatrosses that warrant a GM firing on their own.
Be more accountable ? What has he accomplished? 17 years, now going to 18 years of zero success in the playoffs, he has been around for how many? 7-8 years? Multiple GM's, multiple coaches......seems at some point he will or should be called out too?
He obviously is choosing the wrong people?
He was brought in to oversee a total rebuild, it's now way beyond that.......I would think the fans will want answers? Why not ask the guy at the top?
My experience has always been , when an organization does not succeed, you don't start at the bottom, you go to the top....
3blizzard4
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If Dubas is gone then Keefe is gone. None of this circle back and east west crap for eternity and three drop passes before entering the zone on a PP.
No, according to the "process" you draft skill, and trade draft picks for grit.
Wait.....now that I've written it out that may not be a good idea.
Aus34Matt
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Predict? All the insiders knew he was nursing an injury and still traded for him!
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I don’t trust this core and I don’t trust Dubas.
Said it last year.
If you want trust, you got to give a little to earn it. 5 tries without winning a playoff round just solidifies my first statement.
Please don’t say we are young and learning anymore. Not when guys like Aho, Rantanen, Point, Barzal, etc are just contributing.
The core isn’t built for the playoffs.
All we can do is ride out the wave until there is nothing left but change. They are getting close.
Back to the division with Boston/Tampa.
6th kick at the can coming up.
3 years removed from Matthews/Nylander UFA.
The dam will break at some point.
Said it last year.
If you want trust, you got to give a little to earn it. 5 tries without winning a playoff round just solidifies my first statement.
Please don’t say we are young and learning anymore. Not when guys like Aho, Rantanen, Point, Barzal, etc are just contributing.
The core isn’t built for the playoffs.
All we can do is ride out the wave until there is nothing left but change. They are getting close.
Back to the division with Boston/Tampa.
6th kick at the can coming up.
3 years removed from Matthews/Nylander UFA.
The dam will break at some point.
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You see keefe malhotra(the great pp coach) and hakstol should be gone sire?
Dubas should fire them now no?
Aus34Matt
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Sam Bennet from CGY comes to mind, which reminds me we traded for David Rittich and I don't even know what the heck for if we weren't using him. Again there were other options and that's why they get paid the big bucks and not us armchair GMs.
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ULF_55
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probably have to hit the staff and the core.
Menzinger
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A lot of the tdl trades- especially the Rittch one I think we're done with a longer run in mind. They weren't sure they could trust Andersen's health and the only other nhk goalie in the system was Hutch.
Now the team flamed out in the first round, so criticism becomes fairly earned in the trade. But imo there was at least a reasonable logic to it
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