Confirmed with Link: New Coaching Staff - Tocchet, Gonchar, + Adam Foote | Boudreau, Cull Fired

[ephmrl]

Excited to see what Gonchar is able to do for Hughes game

 

[Bojack Horvatman]

Great sign that a 7 year contract that hasn't started yet will go well

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

I’m pretty willing to give anyone a shot. Always feel like anyone should be given an opportunity to show they belong, even if there are worrying signs.

We have a stupid easy schedule. Barring major setback trades at the TDL, I do expect that this staff puts them on a 100+ point heater the rest of the way. I would imagine they get stops after the TDL.

Management genuinely believed this roster was better than the 13th in the league 100+ point pace that BB had them at last year. Now, they have “their guy”.

I think it would be naive and unjustly lenient to not evaluate the remainder of the season on if they can get results playing a more structured game in a way that inspires faith that it is sustainable. It’s lenient because this is a management group that pushed in short term chips and promised short term results (rutherford two years at introductory presser, rutherford scoffing at drance’s 3 years a week ago)

Great so we lose games 2-1 instead of 5-4.........that sounds like fun.....

 

[Peen]

Great so we lose games 2-1 instead of 5-4.........that sounds like fun.....

I would strongly prefer that.

 

[Peter10]

Oh no, not at all.

Seattle has twice the talent those Arizona teams had.

Just look at the hockey db pages of those teams... just an absolute joke.

So if my math is correct you are saying Seattle has two thirds of the talent Vancouver has?

 

[Johnny Canucker]

RT said he had offers from other teams but waited for the right fit. You could say he “bet on himself” ….. he literally placed bets …


Funny that him and Travis Green are good buddies and both noted gamblers lol.

 

[arttk]

so much has happened so i can’t be sure, but wasn’t that jtm?

Bo

 

[Nucker101]

RT said he had offers from other teams but waited for the right fit. You could say he “bet on himself” ….. he literally placed bets …


Funny that him and Travis Green are good buddies and both noted gamblers lol.

Offers could easily mean assistant coach jobs.

 

[Diversification]

Great sign that a 7 year contract that hasn't started yet will go well

Compounding one error with another usually works out well. They're like double negatives that way.

 

[Johnny Canucker]

Canucks are paying this year

Travis Green 2.75M
Bruce Boudreau 2M
Rick Tocchet 2.75M


7.5M in head coaches for 18 wins.


They run a tight ship.

Offers could easily mean assistant coach jobs.

It was an offer to play in an online poker tournament. He accepted it.

Excited to see what Gonchar is able to do for Hughes game

Unless Gonchar can

Make him 1 foot taller
Make him 50 pounds heavier
Give him a slap shot
Give him a brain on how to defend …..

Then he’s not much help.

QH would be better to visit the wizard of oz.

 

[lawrence]

glad gonchar is not working remote.

Adam Foote one of the best shut down dmans in the 90s hope he can teach our dmans how to d.

 

[Breakers]

LOL
Good analysis in this piece
Remind you of anything?

Travis Yost: Can Rick Tocchet’s system work for Vancouver Canucks? | TSN

New Vancouver bench boss has a history of coaching physical, defensive teams that struggle to score. Time will tell if that system can work in a heightened scoring era, Travis Yost writes.

www.tsn.ca

 

[credulous]

Nobody at all mentions how the on-ice performance was getting worse and worse. We're like 2-11 in our last 13 games... that's some Conor Bedard level tanking right there.

the on ice performance is trash because horvat, myers, boeser and garland know they are being shopped, miller is sulking because everyone is talking about how bad a signing he was and pettersson and hughes just want the suffering to end

coaching isn't going to change any of this

 

[Nucker101]

LOL
Good analysis in this piece
Remind you of anything?

Travis Yost: Can Rick Tocchet’s system work for Vancouver Canucks? | TSN

New Vancouver bench boss has a history of coaching physical, defensive teams that struggle to score. Time will tell if that system can work in a heightened scoring era, Travis Yost writes.

www.tsn.ca

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[JohnHodgson]

So if my math is correct you are saying Seattle has two thirds of the talent Vancouver has?

Sounds about right.

the on ice performance is trash because horvat, myers, boeser and garland know they are being shopped, miller is sulking because everyone is talking about how bad a signing he was and pettersson and hughes just want the suffering to end

coaching isn't going to change any of this

Perhaps it's the coaches job to sort this out and provide guidance and leadership to be professionals and compete everyday?

I guess not. What's a coach good for then if you're not going to provide structure on the X and O's and you can't motivate your team?

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

the on ice performance is trash because horvat, myers, boeser and garland know they are being shopped, miller is sulking because everyone is talking about how bad a signing he was and pettersson and hughes just want the suffering to end

coaching isn't going to change any of this

Exactly! People that think that this is Bruce's fault or that he is somehow a bad coach are absolutely delusional, this team sucks, period, and the construction of it is the biggest issue. To blame coaching for that is absolutely ridiculous

 

[credulous]

Perhaps it's the coaches job to sort this out and provide guidance and leadership to be professionals and compete everyday?

I guess not. What's a coach good for then if you're not going to provide structure on the X and O's and you can't motivate your team?

of course it's the coaches job but what kind of agency does a coach have to change the direction of an organization? very little

boudreau couldn't help horvat with his conflicts with management. neither can tocchet

boudreau can't stop myers, boeser and garland from being publically identified by management as the problem in vancouver and told no one wants them even for free so we'll probably need to buy some of them out. neither can tocchet

boudreau can't reassure miller, pettersson and hughes that management is going to get their heads out of their asses and put more talent around them. neither can tocchet

the weight of being part of a failing organization is absolutely toxic and can't be changed without direct action from those with the power to change it. that's not the coach. that's aquilini, rutherford and allvin

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Sounds about right.


Perhaps it's the coaches job to sort this out and provide guidance and leadership to be professionals and compete everyday?

I guess not. What's a coach good for then if you're not going to provide structure on the X and O's and you can't motivate your team?

You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit can you? So why would you expect the same of Bruce?

 

[arttk]

Excited to see what Gonchar is able to do for Hughes game

Didn’t realize holographic tech is that far along.

 

[sting101]

Gonna do my best to wait to judge these guys.

As pissed off as i am about JR it was a time for a change. Bruce's inability to have players play on the right side of the puck was a death nail as well as many curious decisions

Tocchet Foote and Gonchar will command a work ethic, hopefully flush out the clubhouse mentality and soft defensive presence this team has had prevailing for too long

Disgraceful how they treated Bruce.

 

[canuckking1]

I'm glad that Benning got a job as this news anchor's pronunciation coach.

This clip sent me

 

[Tables of Stats]

This clip sent me

When I saw it I knew I had to share.

 

[God]

at 3:20ish schenn said something interesting: "I think at the end of the day, you know, coaching is probably not as complicated as people maybe think, there's only a couple different ways to play a d-zone and a couple of different ways of forechecking, and obviously you want to get a message across and you want to execute the system. The teams that execute the systems are the ones that have success."

hmmm

 

[tradervik]

at 3:20ish schenn said something interesting: "I think at the end of the day, you know, coaching is probably not as complicated as people maybe think, there's only a couple different ways to play a d-zone and a couple of different ways of forechecking, and obviously you want to get a message across and you want to execute the system. The teams that execute the systems are the ones that have success."

hmmm

Maybe, but what about the parts concerned with setting lines and defensive pairings, matching players against the opponents, managing ice time, helping players to improve, or dealing with players egos? I think coaching might be pretty complicated after all.

 

[hlrsr]

Exactly! People that think that this is Bruce's fault or that he is somehow a bad coach are absolutely delusional, this team sucks, period, and the construction of it is the biggest issue. To blame coaching for that is absolutely ridiculous

Does anyone actually think this is "Bruce's fault" ? His coaching decisions have been criticized, and rightfully so, but I don't think anyone, management included, lays this season entirely at his feet.