Name The 5 Worst Number One Goaltenders in NHL Contracts included

[Snakepit]

5. Smith

.936 sv% and the Flames pay him less than 3 mil. Not sure he should be mentioned in this thread

 

[pigpen65]

Lehner absolutely sucks but he's only on a one year deal

 

[ThatGuy22]

Why is everyone listing Mason? He's not a #1 goalie - he's only played 4 games in a Jets uniform. He had a competition to be #1 and lost.
I agree that he's not very good though.

People listing Mason forget that he lost his starter job to Hellebuyck at the game 5-6 mark.

That's kind of the point. He's the one being paid like a number one goaltender...

 

[ThatGuy22]

Mason, Elliot, Luongo, Raanta, Dubnyk

Luongo simply because of his age
Dubnyk i believe is very over rated

Even if that's your opinion, he's at worst an average goalie by any standards and has the 20th highest caphit for an NHL goalie.

There is zero reason he'd be in the worst 5 list as an average goalie getting paid below average money.

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

1) Price
2) Price
3) Price
4) Price
5) Price

 

[Empoleon8771]

Some guys near the top including contracts are Rinne, Varlamov, Lundqvist, Smith (this year doesn't erase the past), Mason and Elliott. I think my rankings would be:

1. Mason
2. Rinne
3. Elliott
4. Varlamov
5. Lundqvist

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Apparently the people who are saying Howard having seen him play in front of that abysmal 6 man group we call a defense.

He's not the greatest. He's not even top 10. But he's far from bottom 5. Detroit's defense BLOWS.

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

I'd say Mason is more like one of the overpaid backups/1B's. I don't think he was ever brought in as the clear #1, that job was up for grabs for whoever takes it and the main thing with him was he brought in a competitive scenario for our goalies. Bringing him in probably added motivation for Hellebuyck to prove himself, so in that sense it's worked out. He's as much of a #1 goalie as Mrazek or Halak at this point.

Taking contracts into consideration makes this ranking a whole different thing, than just naming the 5 worst starters, and it's pretty tough to say, at what point you'd prefer a mediocre starter making little money to above average starter making 7M.

For me Reimer is up there (3.4M) if he's truly taking the reigns right now, Howard while decent is overpaid (5.29M), Rask has been average for couple years now (7M), Lehner gives so many bad goals it's not even funny (4M) and even though the cap hit isn't too bad, i'd still prefer the guys making 7M to Elliott making 2.75M or Markstrom making 3.6M.

But yeah it's tough to make a definitive list when we don't have clear conception of how much weight should be put into contracts.

 

[Strait2thecup]

Hard for me to not say halak after last night but he only has one year left. I'd want nothing to do with Price or Lundqvists contracts (although id want hanks towards the beginning when he was still elite) Howards contract is brutal and throw in elliot

 

[Oddbob]

What the heck is dsv%

 

[Oddbob]

Hard for me to not say halak after last night but he only has one year left. I'd want nothing to do with Price or Lundqvists contracts (although id want hanks towards the beginning when he was still elite) Howard's contract is brutal and throw in elliot

Jimmy Howard doesn't have a brutal contract. 2 years left at 5.2 and he has been playing awesome the past season and a half. Injuries are his problem not his contract.

 

[pheasant]

Scott Darling - $4.15m x 4 yrs
Jimmy Howard - $5.29m x 2 yrs
Cam Talbot - $4.16m x 2 yrs
James Reimer - $3.4m x 4 yrs
Robin Lehner - $4m

Best list so far. OP said contracts included, but everyone seems to only be focusing on the contract. These 5 are way worse than guys like Lundqvist or Price, even with the pricetag considered.

I would probably go with Howard, Halak, Markstrom, Lehner, and then maybe Reimer as the 5 worst starters at the moment.

 

[Spilot23]

Scott Darling - $4.15m x 4 yrs
Jimmy Howard - $5.29m x 2 yrs
Cam Talbot - $4.16m x 2 yrs
James Reimer - $3.4m x 4 yrs
Robin Lehner - $4m

Imagine those goaltenders in an Avs jersey god damn that would be scary Varly isn’t the best but hes been great so far. Vegas game not included 57 saves on 60 shots last night against Carolina

 

[tucker3434]

Imagine those goaltenders in an Avs jersey god damn that would be scary Varly isn’t the best but hes been great so far. Vegas game not included 57 saves on 60 shots last night against Carolina

I didn’t realize he was in for all 7 goals. That really trashed his season totals. Without that game, he’s put up elite numbers.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

Most of the goalies that are listed are in teams with certain defensive deficiencies. Very hard to judge. You absolutely cannot include Price on these lists. He has a history of stealing games on his own for the most part. When his new contract kicks in maybe then you can make an argument simply due to the fact that 10m/yr for a goalie is a stretch when the team needs that much help in scoring goals.

Ummm, you absolutely can and should include him because he's playing like the worst goalie in the league. Before someone says "it's only been 10 games", y'all wanted to give him the Hart and Vezina after 10 games in 15/16 so sit down and be quiet.

 

[Mav3rick07]

@ people saying Smith .

 

[Karl Eriksson]

Lehner is bad at any price. He's on my list.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Some guys near the top including contracts are Rinne, Varlamov, Lundqvist, Smith (this year doesn't erase the past), Mason and Elliott. I think my rankings would be:

1. Mason
2. Rinne
3. Elliott
4. Varlamov
5. Lundqvist

I'm curious how Rinne is on here above Lundqvist. His contract ends very soon and has played fantastic thus far.

 

[Martinez]

Jimmy Howard doesn't have a brutal contract. 2 years left at 5.2 and he has been playing awesome the past season and a half. Injuries are his problem not his contract.

Agreed. Mrazek has a worse one as of last season and this season

 

[Binary Code]

Price 10M contract hasn't kicked in yet thought ...

But right now his play for a #1 goalie is definitively bottom 5. He's gaven up 2 goals in less than a minute 6 times this season. Most of them early in the first period too. He's really killing the Habs.

 

[Pukboy5kroner]

What the heck is dsv%

Any answer?

 

[Pyrophorus]

Just because Andersen bounced back last year doesn't mean he will bounce back again. It probably was just a fluke and coincidence. The fact of the matter is that right now Andersen is being paid 5 mil to play like an AHL goalie. We pretty much have 5 mil in dead cap space. Kind of like when we had Clarkson. Actually that's a pretty good comparison. Andersen is the Clarkson version of goalies.

This is a massive supposition.

 

[Pyrophorus]

This is a massive supposition.

What about his time with the Ducks?

 

[Marky9er]

Apparently the people who are saying Howard having seen him play in front of that abysmal 6 man group we call a defense.

He's not the greatest. He's not even top 10. But he's far from bottom 5. Detroit's defense BLOWS.

He's paid a little more than other middling goalies who are younger, and is frequently injured. He performs quite well everything considered, definitely not bottom 5. If Detroit were to rebuild they could do quite well to trade Howard (with retention), I think.

 

[SladeWilson23]

Any answer?

I believe it's an adjusted SV% stat that neutralizes defense and special teams. But don't hold me to that.