My 2011 NHL Entry Draft Top 30

[Bjorn Le]

Rankings
1. Adam Larrson SWE D SEL SKEL
2. Gabriel Landeskog SWE W OHL KIT
3. Ryan Murphy CAN D OHL KIT
4. Ryan Nugent Hopkins CAN CWHL RDR
5. Sean Couturier CAN C QMJHL DRU
6. Duncan Siemens CAN D WHL SAS
7. Ryan Strome CAN C OHL NIA
8. Jonathan Huburdeau CAN C QMHL STJ's
9. Dougie Hamilton CAN D OHL NIA
10. Sven Baertschi SWI LW WHL POR
11. David Musil CZE D WHL VAN
12. Brandon Saad USA W OHL SAG
13. Joel Armia FIN RW SMlliga AST
14. Matt Peumpal CAN LW OHL PET
15. Ty Rattie CAN RW WHL POR
16. Jamie Oleksiak USA/CAN D NCAA North Eastern
17. Mark McNeil CAN CWHL PAR
18. Joe Morrow CAN D WHL POR
19. Alexander Khokhlachev RUS C OHL WSR
20. Mika Zibanejad SWE C SEL/J20 Djurgården
21. Dmitri Jaskin CZE RW O2 Slavia Praha HC
22. Scott Mayfield USA D USHL Youngstown
23. Daniel CatenacciCAN C OHL SSM
24. Zach Phillips CAN C QMJHL STJ's
25. Tomas Jurco SVK RW QMJHL STJ's
26. Xavier Ouellet CAN D D QMHL Mon. Jr
27. Vladislav Namesnikov RUS C OHL LON
28. Tobias Rieder GER W OHL KIT
29. Matt Nieto USA LW NCAA Boston University
30. Niklas Jensen DEN RW OHL OSH

Mock Draft

1. Edmonton Oilers draft...
ADAM LARSSON D
2. New York Islanders draft...
GABRIEL LANDESKOG W
3. New Jersey Devils draft...
RYAN MURPHY D
4. Ottawa Senators draft...
RYAN NUGENT HOPKINS C
5. Boston Bruins (TOR) draft...
DOUGIE HAMILTON D
6. Florida Panthers draft...
SEAN COUTURIER C
7. Columbus Blue Jackets draft...
DUNCAN SIEMENS D
8. Buffalo Sabres draft...
RYAN STROME C
9. St Louis Blues draft...
JOEL ARMIA RW
10. Colordao Avalanche draft...
DAVID MUSIL D
11. Carolina Hurricanes draft...
SVEN BAERTSCHI LW
12. Calgary Flames draft...
JONATHAN HUBURDEAU C
13. Los Angelas Kings draft...
BRANDON SAAD LW
14. Chicago Blawkhawks draft...
TY RATTIE RW
15. Atlanta Thrashers draft...
JAMIE OLEKSIAK D
16. Phoenix Coyotes draft...
MATT PEUMPAL LW
17. Minnesota Wild draft...
DMITRI JASKIN RW
18. Nashville Predators draft...
MARK MCNEIL C
19. New York Rangers draft...
TOMAS JURCO RW
20. Anahiem Ducks draft...
MIKA ZIBANEJAD C
21. San Jose Sharks draft...
JOE MORROW D
22. Dallas Stars draft...
SCOTT MAYFIELD D
23. Montreal Canadiens draft...
XAVIER OUELLET D
24. Washington Capitals draft...
JONAS BRODIN D
25. Boston Bruins draft...
TYLER BIGGS LW
26. Detroit Red Wings draft...
ALEXANDER KHOKHLACHEV C
27. Tampa Bay Lightning draft...
NIKLAS JENSEN RW
28. Pittsburgh Penguins draft...
TOBIAS RIEDER W
29. Philidelphia Flyers draft...
MATT NIETO LW
30. Vancouver Canucks draft...
MYLES BELL D


Old one is below from about 25 days ago.

Nothing too groundbreaking/shocking. A few players I'm really high on (Oleksiak for one). Just want a bit of critique.

1. Adam Larsson D SEL SWE
2. Gabriel Landeskog LW/RW OHL SWE
3. Sean Couturier C QMJHL CAN
4. Ryan Murphy D OHL CAN
5. Ryan Nugent Hopkins C WHL CAN
6. Ryan Strome C OHL CAN
7. Duncan Siemens D WHL CAN
8. Dougie Hamilton D OHL CAN
9. Joel Armia LW/RW SMLiiga FIN
10. Brandon Saad RW OHL USA
11. Sven Baertschi LW WHL SWI
12. Jonathan Huburdeau C QMJHL CAN
13. David Musil D WHL CZE
14. Ty Rattie RW WHL CAN
15. Dmitri Jaskin LW/RW O2 CZE
16. Matt Peumpal LW OHL CAN
17. Alexander Khokhlachev C OHL RUS
18. Jamie Oleksiak D NCAA CAN/USA
19. Tomas Jurco LW QMJHL SVK
20. Mark McNeil C WHL CAN
21. Joe Morrow D WHL CAN
22. Victor Rask C J20 SWE
23. Mika Zibanejad C J20 SWE
24. Zach Phillips C QMJHL CAN
25. Matt Nieto LW NCAA USA
26. Scott Mayfield D USHL USA
27. Tobias Rieder LW/RW OHL GER
28. Xaiver Ouellet D QMJHL CAN
29. Daniel Cattenacci C OHL CAN
30. Colin Jacobs C WHL USA

HM to Vladislav Namesnikov, Seth Ambroz, Nathan Bealieau

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[R S]

I like the list. I think Bealieu should be in the top 30 though, just my opinion.

 

[Tormentor]

15. Dmitri Jaskin LW/RW CZEJUN SVK

Jaskin plays in the Extraliga with men, not in juniors. It's funny to see this mistake in so many rankings (ISS, Central Scouting, FutureConsiderations...) …And he's a Czech/Russian, not a Slovak.

 

[BobbyRyan9]

I like the list. I think Bealieu should be in the top 30 though, just my opinion.

I would drop his teammate Phillips out of the top 30 and stick Beaulieu in his spot.

 

[Bjorn Le]

Jaskin plays in the Extraliga with men, not in juniors. It's funny to see this mistake in so many rankings (ISS, Central Scouting, FutureConsiderations...) …And he's a Czech/Russian, not a Slovak.

Really? Not surprised at the diffrence in team but I'm actually shocked he's not Slovakian, I was sure he was.

 

[Ian Esplen]

great job, list looks good. I always love reading these list to get others opinions

why do you like Oleksiak so much?

 

[Bjorn Le]

great job, list looks good. I always love reading these list to get others opinions

why do you like Oleksiak so much?

Thanks

Not really sure why I like Oleksiak.

 

[S E P H]

Vladislav Namesnikov > Alexander Khokhlachev

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I've always wondered, do people who make these lists actually get to watch every single one of these prospects they're ranking? I'm genuinely curious, because as much as I follow junior hockey, I'd probably only feel comfortable ranking the OHL guys (plus some of the higher "profile" guys from the Q or Dub who get a lot of TV time). And even then, I'd be hesitant when it comes to certain teams I don't see much.

 

[Bjorn Le]

I've always wondered, do people who make these lists actually get to watch every single one of these prospects they're ranking? I'm genuinely curious, because as much as I follow junior hockey, I'd probably only feel comfortable ranking the OHL guys (plus some of the higher "profile" guys from the Q or Dub who get a lot of TV time). And even then, I'd be hesitant when it comes to certain teams I don't see much.

Just because you haven't seen every player doesn't mean you don't know anything about them.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Just because you haven't seen every player doesn't mean you don't know anything about them.

Hey, don't get me wrong. I wasn't knocking you or your list. I was just curious how much you saw each of these players, because from my own experience I don't get to see anywhere close to enough games from the other leagues to come up with a list like that.

 

[Habsfan18]

Just because you haven't seen every player doesn't mean you don't know anything about them.

Well, a mock draft is one thing because it's based on team needs and such. But is someone really in a position to rank prospects if they haven't even seen them play once?

Sure you can go by hearsay, but how can you give accurate rankings if you haven't seen them play?

Not trying to be an ass, but I've always wondered this.

 

[JeromeHP]

I've always wondered, do people who make these lists actually get to watch every single one of these prospects they're ranking? I'm genuinely curious, because as much as I follow junior hockey, I'd probably only feel comfortable ranking the OHL guys (plus some of the higher "profile" guys from the Q or Dub who get a lot of TV time). And even then, I'd be hesitant when it comes to certain teams I don't see much.

agreed with this. i only get limited viewing of ohl/whl/usa/euro prospect so its tough to make an accurate ranking of prospect that i dont see often. For a mock draft is ok like habsfan18 said you go by needs.

I only feel confortable making ranking for the qmjhl since its the league i see the most and get to see 99% of the prospect i rank

 

[AwesomePanthers]

Great list, one of the best I've seen so far. I think Peumple is a bit low, not saying he can't "fall" to 16th, but he definitely has the talent to go higher. I'd say 6th to 12th.

 

[Pick Six]

I've always wondered, do people who make these lists actually get to watch every single one of these prospects they're ranking? I'm genuinely curious, because as much as I follow junior hockey, I'd probably only feel comfortable ranking the OHL guys (plus some of the higher "profile" guys from the Q or Dub who get a lot of TV time). And even then, I'd be hesitant when it comes to certain teams I don't see much.

I'm very much the same. I as well only feel comfortable giving my opinions and rankings on the prospects in the OHL, because I get to see a large amount of games and talk to scouts etc. But with other leagues I can't get to that same comfort zone (mainly because I can't catch live games).

That being said I've also wondered how many rankings (NHL draft specifically) are developed on here, just because it'd be so hard to see the majority of the prospects, let alone all.

 

[leafmon]

I've always wondered, do people who make these lists actually get to watch every single one of these prospects they're ranking? I'm genuinely curious, because as much as I follow junior hockey, I'd probably only feel comfortable ranking the OHL guys (plus some of the higher "profile" guys from the Q or Dub who get a lot of TV time). And even then, I'd be hesitant when it comes to certain teams I don't see much.

I have always thought the same and really only feel comfortable with the OHL guys in the east as I see them a lot more.

 

[Fozz]

I've always wondered, do people who make these lists actually get to watch every single one of these prospects they're ranking? I'm genuinely curious, because as much as I follow junior hockey, I'd probably only feel comfortable ranking the OHL guys (plus some of the higher "profile" guys from the Q or Dub who get a lot of TV time). And even then, I'd be hesitant when it comes to certain teams I don't see much.

I don't disagree with what you're saying and you're not the only one that won't make a list because of lack of first-hand knowledge on the prospects. However, if that was the case for everyone, there wouldn't be any lists to talk about on this forum, because no one here has seen every single player in the draft or has the knowledge to make an astute judgment on their talent.

 

[MarkovtoSubban]

Well, [B]a mock draft is one thing because it's based on team needs and such[/B]. But is someone really in a position to rank prospects if they haven't even seen them play once?

Sure you can go by hearsay, but how can you give accurate rankings if you haven't seen them play?

Ok then, I'm posting mine. Based on hearsay and conjecture.

1-NJD-Adam Larsson, D,
2-NYI-Sean Couturier, C
3-EDM-Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, C
4-BOS-Ryan Murphy, D
5-OTT-Gabriel Landeskog, LW
6-BUF-Jonathon Huberdeau-C
7-FLA-Joel Armia-RW
8-CGY-Matt Puempel-LW
9-CAR-Ryan Strome- C
10-CLB-Dougie Hamilton-D
11-MIN-Nicklas Jensen-LW
12-PHX-David Musil-D
13-CHI-Alex Khokhlachev-C
14-LAK-Brandon Saad-LW
15-STL-Vlad Namestnikov-C
16-MTL-Phillipe Hudon-RW
17-ANA-Duncan Siemens-D
18-NSH-Scott Mayfield-D
19-COL-Matt Nieto-LW
20-SJS-Shane McColgan-RW
21-BOS-Tyler Biggs-RW
22-NYR-Rocco Grimaldi-C
23-ATL-Seth Ambroz-RW
24-WSH-Mark McNeill-C
25-DAL-Robbie Russo-D
26-PHI-Jamie Oleksiak-D
27-TBL-Thomas Jurco-LW
28-DET-Dmitrij Jaskin-RW
29-PIT-Ty Rattie-RW
30-VAN-Joe Morrow-D

31-NSH-Victor Rask-C
32-NYI-Sven Bartschi-LW
33-EDM-Myles Bell-D
34-TOR-Boone Jenner-C
35-OTT-Shane Prince-C
36-BUF-Nathan Beaulieu-D
37-FLA-Markus Granlund-C
38-CHI-Max Shalunov-LW
39-CAR-Chris Gibson-G
40-CLB-Colin Jacobs-C
41-BOS-Kale Kessy-C
42-PHX-Tobias Rieder-RW
43-CHI-Dan Catennaci-C
44-LAK-JT Miller-C
45-STL-Phil Danault-LW
46-FLA-Adam Lowry-LW
47-ANA-Vince Trochek, C
48-NSH-Xavier Ouellet, D
49-COL-Lucas Lessio, LW
50-NYI-Oscar Klefbom, D
51-SJS-Rickard Rakell, LW
52-BOS-Marcel Noebels, RW
53-NYR-Mika Zibanejad, C
54-CHI-Nikita Dvurechensky, LW
55-NYR-Jonas Brodin, D
56-DAL-Stefan Noesen, LW
57-PHX-Mike Paliotta, D
58-TBL-Michael St. Croix, C
59-DET-Luke Lockhart, RW
60-PIT-Colten St.Clair, LW
61-VAN-Reece Scarlett, D

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

Ok then, I'm posting mine. Based on hearsay and conjecture.

1-NJD-Adam Larsson, D,
2-NYI-Sean Couturier, C
3-EDM-Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, C
4-BOS-Ryan Murphy, D
5-OTT-Gabriel Landeskog, LW
6-BUF-Jonathon Huberdeau-C
7-FLA-Joel Armia-RW
8-CGY-Matt Puempel-LW
9-CAR-Ryan Strome- C
10-CLB-Dougie Hamilton-D
11-MIN-Nicklas Jensen-LW
12-PHX-David Musil-D
13-CHI-Alex Khokhlachev-C
14-LAK-Brandon Saad-LW
15-STL-Vlad Namestnikov-C
16-MTL-Phillipe Hudon-RW
17-ANA-Duncan Siemens-D
18-NSH-Scott Mayfield-D
19-COL-Matt Nieto-LW
20-SJS-Shane McColgan-RW
21-BOS-Tyler Biggs-RW
22-NYR-Rocco Grimaldi-C
23-ATL-Seth Ambroz-RW
24-WSH-Mark McNeill-C
25-DAL-Robbie Russo-D
26-PHI-Jamie Oleksiak-D
27-TBL-Thomas Jurco-LW
28-DET-Dmitrij Jaskin-RW
29-PIT-Ty Rattie-RW
30-VAN-Joe Morrow-D

31-NSH-Victor Rask-C
32-NYI-Sven Bartschi-LW
33-EDM-Myles Bell-D
34-TOR-Boone Jenner-C
35-OTT-Shane Prince-C
36-BUF-Nathan Beaulieu-D
37-FLA-Markus Granlund-C
38-CHI-Max Shalunov-LW
39-CAR-Chris Gibson-G
40-CLB-Colin Jacobs-C
41-BOS-Kale Kessy-C
42-PHX-Tobias Rieder-RW
43-CHI-Dan Catennaci-C
44-LAK-JT Miller-C
45-STL-Phil Danault-LW
46-FLA-Adam Lowry-LW
47-ANA-Vince Trochek, C
48-NSH-Xavier Ouellet, D
49-COL-Lucas Lessio, LW
50-NYI-Oscar Klefbom, D
51-SJS-Rickard Rakell, LW
52-BOS-Marcel Noebels, RW
53-NYR-Mika Zibanejad, C
54-CHI-Nikita Dvurechensky, LW
55-NYR-Jonas Brodin, D
56-DAL-Stefan Noesen, LW
57-PHX-Mike Paliotta, D
58-TBL-Michael St. Croix, C
59-DET-Luke Lockhart, RW
60-PIT-Colten St.Clair, LW
61-VAN-Reece Scarlett, D

There is no way that Landeskog is there at 5. If he is there at 3, there is no way the Oilers let him go if Couturier and Larsson are already gone.

 

[JackBauer]

There is no way that Landeskog is there at 5. If he is there at 3, there is no way the Oilers let him go if Couturier and Larsson are already gone.

yes there is. murray jedi-mind tricks tambellini so that we get our swedish captain of the future.

good mock kyle, thanks for posting.

 

[Rexor]

Really? Not surprised at the diffrence in team but I'm actually shocked he's not Slovakian, I was sure he was.

Jaškin was born in Russia but has been living in the Czech Republic since he was 8 months old. He's got Czech citizenship now.

 

[The Hulk]

Ok then, I'm posting mine. Based on hearsay and conjecture.

1-NJD-Adam Larsson, D,
2-NYI-Sean Couturier, C
3-EDM-Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, C
4-BOS-Ryan Murphy, D
5-OTT-Gabriel Landeskog, LW
6-BUF-Jonathon Huberdeau-C
7-FLA-Joel Armia-RW
8-CGY-Matt Puempel-LW
9-CAR-Ryan Strome- C
10-CLB-Dougie Hamilton-D
11-MIN-Nicklas Jensen-LW
12-PHX-David Musil-D
13-CHI-Alex Khokhlachev-C
14-LAK-Brandon Saad-LW
15-STL-Vlad Namestnikov-C
16-MTL-Phillipe Hudon-RW
17-ANA-Duncan Siemens-D
18-NSH-Scott Mayfield-D
19-COL-Matt Nieto-LW
20-SJS-Shane McColgan-RW
21-BOS-Tyler Biggs-RW
22-NYR-Rocco Grimaldi-C
23-ATL-Seth Ambroz-RW
24-WSH-Mark McNeill-C
25-DAL-Robbie Russo-D
26-PHI-Jamie Oleksiak-D
27-TBL-Tomas Jurco-LW
28-DET-Dmitrij Jaskin-RW
29-PIT-Ty Rattie-RW
30-VAN-Joe Morrow-D

31-NSH-Victor Rask-C
32-NYI-Sven Bartschi-LW
33-EDM-Myles Bell-D
34-TOR-Boone Jenner-C
35-OTT-Shane Prince-C
36-BUF-Nathan Beaulieu-D
37-FLA-Markus Granlund-C
38-CHI-Max Shalunov-LW
39-CAR-Chris Gibson-G
40-CLB-Colin Jacobs-C
41-BOS-Kale Kessy-C
42-PHX-Tobias Rieder-RW
43-CHI-Dan Catennaci-C
44-LAK-JT Miller-C
45-STL-Phil Danault-LW
46-FLA-Adam Lowry-LW
47-ANA-Vince Trochek, C
48-NSH-Xavier Ouellet, D
49-COL-Lucas Lessio, LW
50-NYI-Oscar Klefbom, D
51-SJS-Rickard Rakell, LW
52-BOS-Marcel Noebels, RW
53-NYR-Mika Zibanejad, C
54-CHI-Nikita Dvurechensky, LW
55-NYR-Jonas Brodin, D
56-DAL-Stefan Noesen, LW
57-PHX-Mike Paliotta, D
58-TBL-Michael St. Croix, C
59-DET-Luke Lockhart, RW
60-PIT-Colten St.Clair, LW
61-VAN-Reece Scarlett, D

Zack Phillips will probably go somewhere in the top 60. I wouldn't be surprised if he went before Jurco. Ever since the preliminary rankings, he has really turned it on. Playing with Huberdeau has helped him a lot though

 

[YARR123]

Ok then, I'm posting mine. Based on hearsay and conjecture.

1-NJD-Adam Larsson, D,
2-NYI-Sean Couturier, C
3-EDM-Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, C
4-BOS-Ryan Murphy, D
5-OTT-Gabriel Landeskog, LW
6-BUF-Jonathon Huberdeau-C
7-FLA-Joel Armia-RW
8-CGY-Matt Puempel-LW
9-CAR-Ryan Strome- C
10-CLB-Dougie Hamilton-D
11-MIN-Nicklas Jensen-LW
12-PHX-David Musil-D
13-CHI-Alex Khokhlachev-C
14-LAK-Brandon Saad-LW
15-STL-Vlad Namestnikov-C
16-MTL-Phillipe Hudon-RW
17-ANA-Duncan Siemens-D
18-NSH-Scott Mayfield-D
19-COL-Matt Nieto-LW
20-SJS-Shane McColgan-RW
21-BOS-Tyler Biggs-RW
22-NYR-Rocco Grimaldi-C
23-ATL-Seth Ambroz-RW
24-WSH-Mark McNeill-C
25-DAL-Robbie Russo-D
26-PHI-Jamie Oleksiak-D
27-TBL-Thomas Jurco-LW
28-DET-Dmitrij Jaskin-RW
29-PIT-Ty Rattie-RW
30-VAN-Joe Morrow-D

31-NSH-Victor Rask-C
32-NYI-Sven Bartschi-LW
33-EDM-Myles Bell-D
34-TOR-Boone Jenner-C
35-OTT-Shane Prince-C
36-BUF-Nathan Beaulieu-D
37-FLA-Markus Granlund-C
38-CHI-Max Shalunov-LW
39-CAR-Chris Gibson-G
40-CLB-Colin Jacobs-C
41-BOS-Kale Kessy-C
42-PHX-Tobias Rieder-RW
43-CHI-Dan Catennaci-C
44-LAK-JT Miller-C
45-STL-Phil Danault-LW
46-FLA-Adam Lowry-LW
47-ANA-Vince Trochek, C
48-NSH-Xavier Ouellet, D
49-COL-Lucas Lessio, LW
50-NYI-Oscar Klefbom, D
51-SJS-Rickard Rakell, LW
52-BOS-Marcel Noebels, RW
53-NYR-Mika Zibanejad, C
54-CHI-Nikita Dvurechensky, LW
55-NYR-Jonas Brodin, D
56-DAL-Stefan Noesen, LW
57-PHX-Mike Paliotta, D
58-TBL-Michael St. Croix, C
59-DET-Luke Lockhart, RW
60-PIT-Colten St.Clair, LW
61-VAN-Reece Scarlett, D

I doubt Markus Granlund will go that high, more likely would be, say, 4th round. IMO if theres another finnish skater going in the 2nd round it would me Miikka Salomäki. And also at the moment theres no way Sven Bärtschi isnt top-30. Imo he's top 15-20 material. Otherwise nice list

 

[GoldenTicket]

There is no way that Landeskog is there at 5. If he is there at 3, there is no way the Oilers let him go if Couturier and Larsson are already gone.

Do you really think the Oilers would draft the only prospect ranked in the top 5 that doesn't fill a need? If i'm Tambo I draft RNH over Landeskog. They are close enough in talent that the BPA rule doesn't come into play.

 

[james30]

What if edmonton is looking for a defenseman? Have you spoken to Tambellini?