Muzzin vs Pesce vs Hamilton
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Deuce Awesome
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"Pesce is worth Kapanen and a first"-hurricanes fans
"Pesce is worth Brown and a third" Leafs fans
"Hamilton is damaged goods he's worthless!"-Leafs fans
"We wouldn't trade Hamilton for that soft floater Nylander" Hurricanes fans
As far as the original question: I like Muzzin. He's won a cup recently and is proven. Pesce for me comes in second, nice contract and would be a great addition for any team, Hamilton is a distant third.
"Pesce is worth Brown and a third" Leafs fans
"Hamilton is damaged goods he's worthless!"-Leafs fans
"We wouldn't trade Hamilton for that soft floater Nylander" Hurricanes fans
As far as the original question: I like Muzzin. He's won a cup recently and is proven. Pesce for me comes in second, nice contract and would be a great addition for any team, Hamilton is a distant third.
If Toronto is able to trade Zaitsev I wouldn't mind Toronto taking a run at Pesce
2018-19
Rielly - Mizzin
Gardiner - Pesce
Dermott - Hainsey
2019-20
Rielly - Muzzin
Dermott - Pesce
Rosen - Liljegren
2020-21
Rielly - Pesce
Dermott - Liljegren
Sandin - Rosen
By acquiring Pesce Toronto defence will be solidified for at least 5yrs all with young kids growing into their positions. The only wrench in all of this is that f***ing expansion draft
2018-19
Rielly - Mizzin
Gardiner - Pesce
Dermott - Hainsey
2019-20
Rielly - Muzzin
Dermott - Pesce
Rosen - Liljegren
2020-21
Rielly - Pesce
Dermott - Liljegren
Sandin - Rosen
By acquiring Pesce Toronto defence will be solidified for at least 5yrs all with young kids growing into their positions. The only wrench in all of this is that f***ing expansion draft
Pesce ($4.025 mil x 5.5)
Hamilton ($5.75 mil x 2.5)
Muzzin (4 mil x 1.5)
The Leafs got Muzzin for that type of price because of his contract term. It's an important driver of player value.
If you're looking at who the better player is, it's a different conversation.
Hamilton ($5.75 mil x 2.5)
Muzzin (4 mil x 1.5)
The Leafs got Muzzin for that type of price because of his contract term. It's an important driver of player value.
If you're looking at who the better player is, it's a different conversation.
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Once and for all...Pesce is a big part of CAR 's future. He's a low cost, solid defenseman that's locked up long term, and is not for sale at this time except for a VAST overpayment. The very reason you like him so much, is the same reason that he's so important to the Canes. MOVE ON! This is getting monotonous. You have your new guy, enjoy him.
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All bring different elements so depending on the team every ranking order is correct.
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Hamilton is better than Pesce. But Pesce gells better with Slavin while Hamilton and Slavin were discombobulated. Haven't seen Muzzin so no comment. But Hamilton is the kind of guy to carry a pairing while Pesce and Muzzin are more complimentary (though I base that re Muzzin on him riding shotgun to doughty).
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Isaac Nootin
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Which is the exact conversation that OP is asking about.
You changed it to value/contracts.
The OP did not specify what this conversation is about.
"Plain and simple, How would you rank these 3 guys"
There's been a decent amount of bragging over the past 36 hours about how the Leafs were able to acquire a Top 4 defenseman for a package of expendables. There's a big reason for that.
bleedgreen
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Smells like a post Cane/Leaf fan argument thread where Leaf fans find a way to say the guy they got is better than anything they would’ve gotten from the Canes and they paid less than they would’ve for any of the Canes guys so haha.
I think all three are in a similar category when you don’t consider contracts and age. Do what you will when you consider those two aspects and the fact the Leafs could’ve used a righty more than a lefty. They’ll adapt but it isn’t ideal.
I wouldn’t take Muzzin over the Canes guys but I’m sure Leaf fans will now do so in abundance.
I think all three are in a similar category when you don’t consider contracts and age. Do what you will when you consider those two aspects and the fact the Leafs could’ve used a righty more than a lefty. They’ll adapt but it isn’t ideal.
I wouldn’t take Muzzin over the Canes guys but I’m sure Leaf fans will now do so in abundance.
Want to specify that this thread is about who you think is the best players of these 3 right now. Not anything to do with contract or how you project them in the future.
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Like people didn't even know his name like 3 months ago lol. This is what happens when a player goes from West to East.
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Personally it's tied between Hamilton and Muzzin for me. Pesce is super close though. All three seem to bring a specific need. But when's the Muzzin for Norris threads starting?
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Pesce
Hamilton
Muzzin
Pesce and Hamilton are opposite players lol. Pesce is great defensively and decent offensively, where as Hamilton is great offensively and decent defensively. Basically a 'pick your poison" type scenario.
I really like Muzzin, but I don't think he's as good as either in total impact - which isn't bad because i see both Hamilton and Pesce as top-30ish defenseman in the NHL.
Hamilton
Muzzin
Pesce and Hamilton are opposite players lol. Pesce is great defensively and decent offensively, where as Hamilton is great offensively and decent defensively. Basically a 'pick your poison" type scenario.
I really like Muzzin, but I don't think he's as good as either in total impact - which isn't bad because i see both Hamilton and Pesce as top-30ish defenseman in the NHL.
bleedgreen
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In Friedman’s 31 thoughts he said neither Pesce nor Petro could’ve been gotten without a good forward from the roster going back. Muzzin is the only one of these three that could’ve been had for the peices used.
