Michel Beauchamp
Canadiens' fan since 1958
There's nothing illogical about the 1,000th game with the same team and the 1,000th game in the NHL being two different games...Wait, so he'll have 2 1,000th ganes?
There's nothing illogical about the 1,000th game with the same team and the 1,000th game in the NHL being two different games...Wait, so he'll have 2 1,000th ganes?
I'm loving the return lololll. We ripped the leafs off. Valiev is impressive. He can be a 4/5 in like a year or 2. Plus a second.... thanks a lot!!
Is his defensive game actually any good? People have been saying he's good defensively but unless that translates into taking dumb penalties, he didn't show it last night.
Always thought he was a mediocre scrub in Montreal and I don't think he'll change my mind.
and i guess the games in between the two 1,000 games don't get counted . lolWait, so he'll have 2 1,000th ganes?
Mouth breathers to me implies more like caveman mentality, old school, “eye test” proponents.No, we definitely didn't rip them off. Valiev is not impressive and the sad state of our blueline would be the only reason he cracks it in a few years. But the 2nd is good value for Pleks. I think it was good for us and pretty good for the Leafs but that concept is foreign to most of the mouthbreathers on HFB.
Hopefully, there are still a few of us cavemen around who don't trust the Emperor's New Clothes that are advanced stats.Mouth breathers to me implies more like caveman mentality, old school, “eye test” proponents.
Around here? More like wheezy, inhaler clutching stat dorks.
Bergevin committing highway robbery.
I mean you should give him more time, but I personally wouldn't have given up a 2nd for him.This guy sucks...
pleks should have never returned a 2ndNo, we definitely didn't rip them off. Valiev is not impressive and the sad state of our blueline would be the only reason he cracks it in a few years. But the 2nd is good value for Pleks. I think it was good for us and pretty good for the Leafs but that concept is foreign to most of the mouthbreathers on HFB.
This guy sucks...
He's fine in a defensive role, however his offensive game has dropped off significantly in the last two years and he basically kills any momentum in the offensive zone.This guy sucks...
He is not worth the 2nd, Leafs have said this themselves. They would have paid less, but the reason they gave the 2nd is because they retained 50% on Pleks. Makes sense. It gave Lou some flexibility to make an add on TD day, however that didn't end up working out but that's the whole reason they paid the 2nd. They wanted cap flexibility.I mean you should give him more time, but I personally wouldn't have given up a 2nd for him.
I think people are forgetting to factor in the prices paid during this trade deadline. Vanek cost VGK a 1,2,3 rounder, yes they are all in different years but the fact remains that prices this year were very inflated. So the 2nd rounder given up for a quality defensive center is not absurd. Two low to middling prospects is the price we had to pay for dealing with our biggest rival.
It says we're playing our center as a winger, our winger as a center because our GM and coach are idiots. It says we buried Glachenyuk on the 4th line for about a third of the season because that's how Claude teaches "defensive responsibility". It says our GM traded good assets and couldn't get a first line center back, despite claiming that that's the only way to get it done.So what does that say about the rest of the team on the Habs including Drouin, Chuck if Pleks is washed up offensively?...because Pleks actually leads the Habs in even strength points and gets zero PP time...despite regularly facing top lines on a pretty regular basis at ES. Comparatively, we're using him in a 4th line role, it's night and day.
Timmins isn't bad from the 2nd round onward really, it's the first that usually busts for some reason.If that makes you feel better I guess, the only prize here is a very late 2nd and Timmins doesn't exactly instill confidence with it.
Nah this one is worse.You meant to say Hall for Larson was the crime of the Century.
1) It was Tatar they traded for.I think people are forgetting to factor in the prices paid during this trade deadline. Vanek cost VGK a 1,2,3 rounder, yes they are all in different years but the fact remains that prices this year were very inflated. So the 2nd rounder given up for a quality defensive center is not absurd. Two low to middling prospects is the price we had to pay for dealing with our biggest rival.
well thats our gm for ya. trades a 2nd for a 4th liner and trades 2 4th liners for a 4th and a 7th in future yearsI mean you should give him more time, but I personally wouldn't have given up a 2nd for him.
well thats our gm for ya. trades a 2nd for a 4th liner and trades 2 4th liners for a 4th and a 7th in future years
yah hope to god he isn't a liabilityHe's not really a 4th liner. Maybe in your team because of your excellent C depth but ideally he's a shutdown 3rd line C. Give him some time, he's reliable, smart, a good skater and has a terrific work ethic. Just zero offensive touch and that's really the only area of the game where he's washed up.