Confirmed with Link: [MTL/DAL] Habs Acquire Jordie Benn for Pateryn and a 4th

[Mr Fox]

He's improved his defensive game this year. He played 17 less games and was on pace to have similar offensive numbers as last year. He has improved.

I'm sorry you are right, he has improved; I guess it is more a matter of expectations. I wanted him to have the kind of season that Provorov had in his second year. Again, I did not follow Provorov, and am unaware of the different variables he had to deal with. I just wanted to be reassured that the gem we thought we were getting, is undisputed and that he could be of help to the habs sooner rather than later.

 

[FerrisRox]

I will gladly eat a plate full of crow for thinking he was another garbage #7 dman and crying about that trade.

Good on you for posting this.

There were a lot of people that didn't know a thing about Benn criticizing him and Bergevin after the trade that clearly didn't have the faintest idea what they were talking about. Kudos to you for admitting you were wrong.

 

[Adam Michaels]

I'm sorry you are right, he has improved; I guess it is more a matter of expectations. I wanted him to have the kind of season that Provorov had in his second year. Again, I did not follow Provorov, and am unaware of the different variables he had to deal with. I just wanted to be reassured that the gem we thought we were getting, is undisputed and that he could be of help to the habs sooner rather than later.

He will help the Habs sooner than later. Even if he's a Top-10 pick, I don't need him to come in and dominate as a top pair defenseman.

As I agreed with you, if he was on the third pair with Benn, I would be pleased because he will be with a stable and consistent veteran. He will play weaker opposition on most nights where CJ at least has the last change. It will be the best way to break him into the NHL.

Babcock had the same approach for Matthews. He started him on the third line and let him adjust to NHL hockey before moving him up the line-up.

 

[le_sean]

I'm sorry you are right, he has improved; I guess it is more a matter of expectations. I wanted him to have the kind of season that Provorov had in his second year. Again, I did not follow Provorov, and am unaware of the different variables he had to deal with. I just wanted to be reassured that the gem we thought we were getting, is undisputed and that he could be of help to the habs sooner rather than later.

I think we also have to remember Provorov played a year in the USHL before two in the WHL. Sergachev just came from Russia last season and was OHL defenceman of the year. For a kid to come from Russia, acclimate and learn the style of game to dominate that quickly is impressive.

 

[DangerDave]

He's improved his defensive game this year. He played 17 less games and was on pace to have similar offensive numbers as last year. He has improved.



I agree Benn would be a great guy to pair Sergachev with. Weber would be a great mentor, but maybe Sergachev won't be ready to start off with top pairing minutes. And Benn is probably the best guy to help start Sergachev slowly and make him earn his way up.

Start off with Benn and move him up to Weber. Sounds good to me.

 

[Simarino]

Alot of HF posters are laughing at the depth on D that MB always acquire at the trade deadline, but can you imagine that DCore without Benn right now!!??

 

[Adam Michaels]

When we picked him up not gunna lie, I thought he was Jamie Benn's #7D little brother who didn't even deserve a sniff at playing in the NHL and was shocked Bergevin actually wasted assets to acquire him. Not going to lie I was a bit ignorant about his play.

Boy was I wrong. Seems he's another steal by Bergy. Guy has been pretty solid...

and maybe can convince his bro to come to MTL when his contracts up

His contract is up in 2024-25.

 

[Devourers]

His contract is up in 2024-25.

Was being sarcastic. I know getting him changes nothing.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Was being sarcastic. I know getting him changes nothing.

Okay.

But Jamie does have a full NMC. Would be nice to see him force Dallas' hand by requesting a trade and only accepting one to Montreal. Nice to dream, though.

 

[Braun]

It's laughable how much Benn is better than Pateryn. Great pickup. Not sure how he was playing in Dallas but I am not sure why they traded him!

 

[V13]

The best deadline acquisition by far

I wasn't expecting much but he has surpassed my expectations by a mile

 

[viceroy]

I agree. He's our best acquisition this year after Radulov. Shaw could still pull into second ahead of him, though. I hope he does...

WTF? Shaw? He's been playing better but at that salary... He's paid what? 1.something only less than Radulov? Unless his salary magically reduces by 75% he'll always be a crummy acquisition.

 

[TheBuriedHab]

Bergevin's best trade so far. I don't know how they pulled this one off.

 

[groovejuice]

WTF? Shaw? He's been playing better but at that salary... He's paid what? 1.something only less than Radulov? Unless his salary magically reduces by 75% he'll always be a crummy acquisition.

Well I suggested that because so many have lauded Shaw's playoff genius. That's what I was referring to. If he can substantially raise his game and contribute to winning by living up to that lofty reputation, then he could be a gem. Time will tell.

We don't have a Toews or Kane though...

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

Well I suggested that because so many have lauded Shaw's playoff genius. That's what I was referring to. If he can substantially raise his game and contribute to winning by living up to that lofty reputation, then he could be a gem. Time will tell.

We don't have a Toews or Kane though...

We don't need a Toews or Kane, we just need Shaw to play on the wing. He's so much more effective when he doesn't have to focus more defensively and can work the boards and in front of the net, hopefully Chucky is centering that line tonight.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Why is Shaw the topic of discussion in a Jordie Benn thread?

 

[Andrei79]

Didn't know anything about him when we acquired him. What a steal by MB, hope we don't lose him in the expansion draft.

 

[montreal]

Bergevin's best trade so far. I don't know how they pulled this one off.

this year then yes but the Danault trade is his best imo. To get him and a 2nd for 2 UFA's on their way out in the Dutch gretzky and Flash is likely going to continue to pay nice dividends for years to come.

really hope we don't lose Benn to the expansion though, what a pick up.

 

[mariolemieux66]

Good pick up so far considering the terms of his contract. Very solid bottom pairing dmen.

 

[Kenny Powders]

It's laughable how much Benn is better than Pateryn. Great pickup. Not sure how he was playing in Dallas but I am not sure why they traded him!

They probably traded him because they couldnt or didnt want to protect him for the xpac

 

[De Montreal]

I'm sold. Guy is a great bottom pairing dman.

Wait until Emelin is back and roll this all the way to the SCF

Markov Weber
Emelin Petry
Beaulieu Benn

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

I'm sold. Guy is a great bottom pairing dman.

Wait until Emelin is back and roll this all the way to the SCF

Markov Weber
Emelin Petry
Beaulieu Benn

definitely keep Benn on the 2nd unless Emelin outplays him cleanly. No reason to muck up a pretty effective 2nd pairing right now.

 

[The Great Weal]

Pateryn is better. Wouldn't have given a 4th alone for Benn. Bad trade.

*eats crow* He never played like this in Dallas though, so can't blame me.

 

[TheBuriedHab]

Do you guys think they consider protecting Benn over Beaulieu? I notice he's on a sweatheart deal

 

[The Great Weal]

Do you guys think they consider protecting Benn over Beaulieu? I notice he's on a sweatheart deal

I'm done with Beaulieu, I'd be looking to trade me.