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Prevailing opinion on the main boards is that Yak is a bust. Do you really think the main boards is the best source of non bias opinion on the Oilers? Get real.
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Prevailing opinion on the main boards is that Yak is a bust. Do you really think the main boards is the best source of non bias opinion on the Oilers? Get real.
GMofOilers
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Well, the first 3 were pretty easy.
It's gonna be a bit tougher now.
Allot of different opinions on which player, which size of player, which skillset, which position, etc are better for the team going forward.
I'll probably stick by Schultz for the next one. He is part of the core. But that could change with what we gots coming.
Now I'm thinking Drai. Damned....oh yeah, what about Nurse in 4 or 5 years.....Dooooh.
It's gonna be a bit tougher now.
Allot of different opinions on which player, which size of player, which skillset, which position, etc are better for the team going forward.
I'll probably stick by Schultz for the next one. He is part of the core. But that could change with what we gots coming.
Now I'm thinking Drai. Damned....oh yeah, what about Nurse in 4 or 5 years.....Dooooh.
McPuritania
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GMofOilers
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Okay then.
Serious right now, Yak is trending more towards a bust than he is a offensive dynamo.
Aceboogie
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So Im right, thats what I thought
If your opinion is being equated to the opinion on the main boards, that's not something to take delight in. A quick 5 second look into any thread will show that
Hall was considered a bust 3 years aago and look how that turned out
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Aceboogie
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I recall it stated plenty of times on the maim board. All I'm saying is they have little to no knowledge of oiler players, so they subjective and impartial opinions should have no merit in evaluting a player
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Until he broke out people were in fact calling him a bust. He never actually was a bust, but people were calling him one.
People expect players to rip the league up the moment they come in, some players take a while.
Aerchon
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Serious?
Yes Yak is TRENDING poorly right now but so are most the high picks from that draft class.
Rather than follow a trend I would put a lot more stock in his draft predictions since he only has 111 games under his belt and still has a respectable 28 goals in those games to date.
Softmore slumps are incredibly common and the odds of Yak bouncing back are astronomically high.
Anyone who actually believes Yak is a bust because of a bad softmore slump is a complete and utter moron.
The worst someone objective can possible say is that for a first overall he IS doing poorly. As a player with only 111 games played and is only 20 years old the future is still very bright indeed.
EDIT: The main boards and even some other organizations are now projecting negative biased towards the Oilers for tanking and getting 3 first overalls. People gotta hate. I don't really understand it actually. If all our players really were busts we should just be laughed at and pitied. But the open hostility suggests even tho we really suck now, we still technically "Should" end up being a fairly strong team down the road and that upsets people.
Aerchon
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On topic. Forgot why I came to this thread.
Hall is my number one despite being a winger.
RNH is my two who if he gets his mojo back will most likely surpass Hall as my #1.
Shultz because of position/age/potential is my number three.
Leon will be my number four and much like RNH could end up being my number one eventually.
Yak is my fifth pick and would be higher except for the fact he is a winger.
Eberle, Marincin, Perron, Nurse, and Klefbom are all so close but I suppose I would put them in that order.
Hall is my number one despite being a winger.
RNH is my two who if he gets his mojo back will most likely surpass Hall as my #1.
Shultz because of position/age/potential is my number three.
Leon will be my number four and much like RNH could end up being my number one eventually.
Yak is my fifth pick and would be higher except for the fact he is a winger.
Eberle, Marincin, Perron, Nurse, and Klefbom are all so close but I suppose I would put them in that order.
Paralyzer008
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Huberdeau and Galchenyuk = automatic stars
Yakupov = bust because Russian.
That's what the main boards have. I completely disagree.
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I picked Eberle, but only because of the weird hate the rest of the league has for Yakupov (I still have him #4 though)
Nobody ever criticized Hall (on the main board) like they do Yakupov now. The biggest knock on Hall was that he was injury prone which was a valid concern but I don't think anybody questioned his hockey abilities.
I have to say that Yakupov is overrated by Oiler fans. The 1st page of this thread is evidence of that, at the least the first several posts are.
There's no way that Yakupov holds more value than Eberle, there's just no way. Also, I'm not convinced that his upside is higher than Eberle's. People seem to forget that Eberle had 34 goals and 76 points just 2 seasons ago. If Yak ever has even one season like that, we should consider ourselves lucky.
The main board does have an irrational hate for him though. The oddest comments are the ones that praise Galchenyuk and Huberdeau as core players while Yak is headed towards bust territory.
I understand why people like him. He's a likeable kid, he's fun to watch when he's on and he does seem to get unfair treatment from the media but HFOil definitely seems to hold him in higher regard than most other hockey people do mainly based on draft pedigree.
I think his value lies somewhere between what HFOil thinks and what the main board thinks.
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I didn't vote for Eberle, but I'm glad to see that the Eberle haters are in the extreme minority
McPuritania
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I wouldn't say someone is a hater for not choosing Eberle. It was a tough choice, but I went with Draisaitl because solidifying our centre position, and doing it with dat size and skill is very important. I love Eberle, it was a tough choice.
rboomercat90
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No and Hall wasn't adjusting to a new language and culture either. It also helped Hall to have three years of NHL hockey under his belt before he ran into Dallas Eakins.
Mr Positive
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That's fair, and I didn't mean to imply that not voting for Eberle makes someone an Eberle hater. I just know that a lot of people trashed Eberle for his toe drags and defensive play during the season. The way they talked, Ebs would even be top 10 on this poll.
Aerchon
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He was "meh" last year. Had some serious defensive break downs at times but also a few good ones to balance it out a bit. At the end of the season Ebs wasn't THE problem but he also wasn't the solution or overly "valueable".
Meh.
I think I put him #5 just because as a one dimensional winger his impact is lower than others. I also think if we actually start making the playoffs he could be our best player... but who knows when the heck that could happen.
Oscar Acosta
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Yeah if there's any great gauge of a player's worth - it's the main board of HF Boards. Where there's been polls of Taylor Hall vs. Andrew Ladd with shockingly 50-50 results.
McGoMcD
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I voted Schultz. love Ebs, but don't see him being number 3 going forward, think it is schultz or yaks.
people forget how Schultz destroyed the AHL 2 years ago. He has the potential to be dynamic.
people forget how Schultz destroyed the AHL 2 years ago. He has the potential to be dynamic.
McGoMcD
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don't get this at all, guy was #1. maybe he will be a bust, but lets talk about that in a couple years. right now he is not a bust. just being firs overall alone makes your deserving of high accolades.
AHL is a completely different league. He struggled mightily in the NHL. He can put up points, but his defensive game is weak. Until he improves his defense, he is not a top 5 Oiler in my mind.
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Yak might be 7 or 8 on my list... to be honest, he's still so far off that I haven't even considered voting for him yet.
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