Music: Most Overrated and Most Underrated Rock Band in History

MoreOrr

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Overrated is easier, and there's been a few of those already mentioned here. I'll go with these:

The Beatles - Yes, of course they were Great, but just not to the degree that they've always been hyped to be.
Led Zeppelin - Ovbious choice
Nirvana - Ditto

As for underrated, that's bit more difficult and I think even more of personal taste. Personally, I'd mention:

Styx - Definitely!
Flash and the Pan - Few people even know of them.
INXS - They seem to be almost forgotten.
 

Roo Returns

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Damn dude give Huey some respect they had more like 15 top 40 hits

Feel free to share some. I know The Power of Love, It's Hip To Be Square, and I Want A New Drug.

I'm not saying they're not talented, just that's my long history with them.

I do feel bad for Huey. He's not that old and forced retirement stinks.

Maybe it's an age thing (I'm in my late 30s)....it's like how Living Colour is commonly known for Cult of Personality and that's it, but they had many more radio songs back in the day that were lost in subsequent decades.
 

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Overrated:
Radiohead (music critics who listened to too much music in their lifetime find them unique, hence they enjoy them, but I think they don't deserve that much success)

Megadeth: I feel like 90% of the attention they get is because of the fact that Dave Mustaine was once a member of Metallica

Underrated:

The Monkees. Yeah the dudes we saw on TV didn't write the stuff and didn't play much of the music, but the whole collective of people who worked on their records deserve more praise.

I'm going to defend Megadeth for a minute with a lot of information so bare with me;

-Peace Sells in 1986 was an iconic album in a year that 3/4 main thrash bands had releases. The main bass riff for the title track was the MTV News theme for like a decade. A few popular songs on hard rock radio.

-They had a misstep in 1988 but came back with Rust In Peace which is an all-time metal/thrash classic. First of four albums with the classic Mustaine/Eleffson/Friedman/Menza lineup.

-Countdown in 1992 was a huge success. At least three big singles.

-They also had hits being on the Bill & Ted Bogus Journey (1991) and Beavis and Butt-Head Experience (1993) albums.

-Youthanasia was also very successful in 1994 with at least two massive hits.

-Cryptic Writings wasn't as successful as the other three but still went platinum

Since then they've had some hits and misses, some appearances in soundtracks and video games, but just from that 1986-1997 run, one of the most successful metal acts of all time.
 

Blitzkrug

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Overrated: KISS

Literally a market machine masquerading as a shitty rock band. Paul Stanley and Ace Frehley were the only two guys in that group to actually have talent. Gene Simmons sucks and so did Peter Criss. Shame Eric Carr had to die so young because he had more talent in his ball hair then the other two losers.

Underrated: ELO

Jeff Lynne might be an asshole, but he put together a band that put a really unique spin on rock music that hasn't really been duplicated since.
 

tarheelhockey

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Underrated:

The Monkees. Yeah the dudes we saw on TV didn't write the stuff and didn't play much of the music, but the whole collective of people who worked on their records deserve more praise.

Ooh, that's an interesting pick. One could argue that the Monkees launched an entire genre, and that genre has been dominant over the pop landscape for a pretty significant chunk of the past 50 years. And the video format they pioneered was basically the beginning of music videos.

Damn. This makes me want to lob a grenade like "over the long haul, the Monkees were arguably more influential than Nirvana" and run for cover.
 
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Mantis

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Overrated: Red Hot Chili Peppers. Stadium Arcadium came out when I was in grade 10 and holy f*** was it overplayed for how mediocre it was. I never want to hear RHCP again.

Underrated: I dunno. I really like a lot of Deftones music from pretty much every one of their albums. Chino Moreno’s other side projects are pretty good too.
 
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Feel free to share some. I know The Power of Love, It's Hip To Be Square, and I Want A New Drug.

I'm not saying they're not talented, just that's my long history with them.

I do feel bad for Huey. He's not that old and forced retirement stinks.

Maybe it's an age thing (I'm in my late 30s)....it's like how Living Colour is commonly known for Cult of Personality and that's it, but they had many more radio songs back in the day that were lost in subsequent decades.

I'm 48 and I always shake my head when I see Living Colour mentioned as one hit wonders because they were all over MTV and the radio back in the day. I guess you're right it must be an age thing.
 

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For overrated it's got to be AC/DC or Radiohead for me. Every AC/DC song sounds exactly the same, and Radiohead hits have never done much for me.

Underrated: Oasis, particularly in the west and aside from Wonderwall.
 

Hierso

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Overrated - Black Sabbath (after “Volume 4”)

Underrated - L7

Black Sabbaths discography post Ozzy is overrated. Dio was a very talented man but the juxtaposition was jarring. Listening to their debut album vs Heaven and Hell and it doesn't even sound like the same band anymore.

As for my picks

Overrated : Kiss. Outside of a few catchy songs it's a very medicore band.
Underrated: Blue Oyster Cult. People know the hits like Don't fear the reaper but if you dig deeper you'll find gold.

 

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Black Sabbaths discography post Ozzy is overrated. Dio was a very talented man but the juxtaposition was jarring. Listening to their debut album vs Heaven and Hell and it doesn't even sound like the same band anymore.

This is absolutely true and I think it's a good thing. Black Sabbath was getting stale and needed a new direction, and despite the lineup churn and commercial failure, I think they got it. The three Dio and first four Martin albums are all very good. Unfortunately, the Ozzy era gets the bulk of the attention, with the Dio era taking the rest, and everything else metaphorically chucked into the bin.

I think it's really really hard for something that gets virtually zero attention to be overrated unless it's pure trash. I looked at the Amazon rankings for the six "classic" Ozzy albums, the three Dio albums, and the first four Martin albums (Forbidden is forgettable), and the difference is stark:

Album - Rank in "CD's & Vinyl"
Black Sabbath - #500
Paranoid - #231
Master of Reality - #398
Vol. 4 - #4747
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath - #302
Sabotage - #2290

Heaven & Hell - #530
Mob Rules - #968

The Eternal Idol - #7611
Headless Cross - #63,289
Tyr - #112,518

Dehumanizer - #1351

Cross Purposes - #67,759

I think there are versioning and availability issues - Vol. 4 seems very low and out of place, but it seemed hard to find a single "this is the listing you want" for that album. I wonder about the availability of Headless Cross, Tyr, and Cross Purposes - I don't think any of them have seen large releases lately (The Eternal Idol got a two-disc deluxe release in the last decade), but releases are a reflection of actual and/or anticipated demand, so its a bit of a chicken and egg problem.

Musically, I will fight for the Martin albums - especially Headless Cross, which I put up there with Paranoid and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (my favorite Sabbath album is Master of Reality).
 

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I'm 48 and I always shake my head when I see Living Colour mentioned as one hit wonders because they were all over MTV and the radio back in the day. I guess you're right it must be an age thing.

I was a fan of Living Colour, had their Vivid album and liked every song on it, but would have to say that they were a one-hit wonder, since the rest of their songs weren't nearly as popular as Cult of Personality. I don't think that having other songs on MTV and the radio refutes that because that happens with every one-hit wonder. When a group has a song that popular, their record label releases more singles, produces more music videos and buys more air time to try to duplicate and sustain the success. I imagine that Dexy's Midnight Runners had many more music videos on MTV and songs on radio in the years after Come On, Eileen, but no one but fans of the group remember them, making them a one-hit wonder. I think that that's the same with Living Colour. They had a number of good songs besides Cult of Personality, but those songs weren't "hits."
 

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This is a nice discussion. Thank y'all for your suggestions, although I heavily disagree with many.

The Overrated label fits perfectly for Nirvana, indeed. They were a very good band, but Cobain's suicide made them an icon for Grunge and Alternative, where I prefer Alice in Chains or Pearl Jam.

Underrated to the undeserved stage of almost unknown is a British 80ies/90ies band called The Godfathers. But to give you a more mainstream name, I say Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers. They should be considered not only as greats, but as giants.


That was very unexpected coming from a user with a Joy Division avatar. I cannot comment on Gun Club any further, though.

Gruß,
BSHH

Love them both, two unique sounds and two frontmen like never before.
 

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Underrated. .white stripes

Overrated, U2

Full agreement here. The White Stripes (along with the Gorillaz) have a great discography while also being a huge middle finger to pop culture.

Never have been able to get into U2. It’s like they exist as a band just so Bono can be a rockstar who is worldly.
 
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DaaaaB's

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I'm going to defend Megadeth for a minute with a lot of information so bare with me;

-Peace Sells in 1986 was an iconic album in a year that 3/4 main thrash bands had releases. The main bass riff for the title track was the MTV News theme for like a decade. A few popular songs on hard rock radio.

-They had a misstep in 1988 but came back with Rust In Peace which is an all-time metal/thrash classic. First of four albums with the classic Mustaine/Eleffson/Friedman/Menza lineup.

-Countdown in 1992 was a huge success. At least three big singles.

-They also had hits being on the Bill & Ted Bogus Journey (1991) and Beavis and Butt-Head Experience (1993) albums.

-Youthanasia was also very successful in 1994 with at least two massive hits.

-Cryptic Writings wasn't as successful as the other three but still went platinum

Since then they've had some hits and misses, some appearances in soundtracks and video games, but just from that 1986-1997 run, one of the most successful metal acts of all time.
I think if anything Megadeth is underrated. Their best albums are every bit as good as Metallica's best albums.
 

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I was curious of people's opinions on who they believe is the most overrated rock band in history and who they believe is the most underrated rock band in history. Now there can be different ways to interpret this question, so you can answer in 1 or multiple ways or with 1 or multiple bands as answers. For example, you can gauge this overrating or underrating based on commercial success, or talent, or impact on music/future musicians, or impact on audience, or personal taste, or what have you.


I'll start.

Most overrated band in rock history to me would be Nirvana. I say this because I think their influence on music is overrated or misjudged, metal and punk/post-punk bands before and around the same time as them had been played around with what Nirvana was doing but just never hit commerical success or as much commercial success, post-grunge and nu metal bands that grew from/after their movement are imo a pretty bad genre with not many notable quality artists or music coming out of this sector, and lastly from a personal standpoint I just think their music is very rough on the ears. The elements in grunge, Nirvana's grunge specifically, for me just too many times sound like incoherent or unimpressive noise. I get heavy and distortion, I enjoy a bunch of metal bands that can do it harmoniously with much more appeal and intelligent feel to it. On the flip side of this topic, Elliott Smith is an artist who's place in history should be much greater than Nirvana. His lyrics, virtuosity, and overall talent are levels above Nirvana's work.



Most underrated rock band in history to me would be The Yardbirds. They started Clapton, Page, and Jeff Beck's careers. They played and influenced blues/blues rock, psych rock, pop rock, and early hard rock, showing a very wide range of successful music. The music and bands that directly and indirectly evolved from the Yardbirds were incredibly impactful and successful in rock. And of course they had a good amount of hit singles, with a decent range of music.

Nirvana is overrated to you because you don't get where they were coming from when they started. Learn why people love them and you'll be on the path to 'getting' Nirvana.

Page was accomplished and in a career before the Yardbirds.

Elliott Smith made boring music....EXTREMELY boring.

Overrated: Nirvana, I agree with the OP as well. Had a discussion about this on Saturday night, actually.
Underrated: Dream Theater, vocals to me are kind of "eh" but I truly believe that John Petrucci is the GOAT guitarist.

Listening to Dream Theater is like listening to a donut. Always something missing in the middle of their tunes...when they didn't do cover songs.
 
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Overrated: Kiss, AC/DC, Iron Maiden, Def Leppard

Underrated: Testament, Exodus, Black Label Society, Machine Head, Cannibal Corpse, Carcass, Static X.
 

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Overrated: KISS

Literally a market machine masquerading as a shitty rock band. Paul Stanley and Ace Frehley were the only two guys in that group to actually have talent. Gene Simmons sucks and so did Peter Criss. Shame Eric Carr had to die so young because he had more talent in his ball hair then the other two losers.

Underrated: ELO

Jeff Lynne might be an asshole, but he put together a band that put a really unique spin on rock music that hasn't really been duplicated since.

Learn why bands came to be



...and Jeff Lynne is indeed an asshole.
 

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