Morgan Rielly vs. Shea Theodore

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Who is the better defenceman right now?

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[LeafsNation75]

Morgan Rielly

 

[Icebreakers]

Rielly's been better every year except for last year. Theodore was a top 10 dman last year and was better than Rielly. I think Theodore is just starting to break out. He was dominant in the playoffs. Voted him going forward. Its close though.

 

[LeafsNation75]

Rielly's been better every year except for last year. Theodore was a top 10 dman last year and was better than Rielly. I think Theodore is just starting to break out.

Last year with the exception of the Leafs qualifying series against Columbus, Rielly was playing hurt and was never 100% before suffering another injury that caused him to miss 23 games. When he returned to the lineup after that injury he got to play only 1 more regular season game on March 10, 2020 which was Toronto's last regular season game before everything got suspended.

 

[Gurglesons]

Right now it is Theo based on Reilly's down year last year. Career wise, pretty easily Reilly.

 

[Deadly Dogma]

I don't know, can I tell you at the end of the season?

 

[jetsforever]

Probably Rielly

 

[WillTheThrill]

Rielly.

 

[joe dirte]

Tough to say. Mostly rielly but close last year. Theodore younger so also gives him a bump going forward.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Theodore. He has passed Rielly this past year.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Shea Theodore and it is not even close.

 

[Rhaegar Targaryen]

Right now it is Theo based on Reilly's down year last year. Career wise, pretty easily Reilly.

It wasn’t as much of a down year, as it was a regression. Every advanced stat pointed to Rielly’s 20 goal season as unsustainable and it proved to be correct.

This is Theodore, and moving forward it’s not very close at all.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Rielly’s high-end is better, but I think Theadore’s overall game is a little better.

 

[lawrence]

Reilly. Theodore has his team to thank for their insane puck possession abilities.

 

[Dache]

Last year with the exception of the Leafs qualifying series against Columbus, Rielly was playing hurt and was never 100% before suffering another injury that caused him to miss 23 games. When he returned to the lineup after that injury he got to play only 1 more regular season game on March 10, 2020 which was Toronto's last regular season game before everything got suspended.

[MOD] What in there has anything to do with Rielly being better right now? Let me guess, you’re now going to talk about 2 years ago?

 

[LeafsNation75]

[MOD] What in there has anything to do with Rielly being better right now? Let me guess, you’re now going to talk about 2 years ago?

I was replying to @Icebreakers comment as to why Rielly wasn't as good last season compared to the 2018-19 Season.

 

[Regal]

It wasn’t as much of a down year, as it was a regression. Every advanced stat pointed to Rielly’s 20 goal season as unsustainable and it proved to be correct.

This is Theodore, and moving forward it’s not very close at all.

The goal numbers were unsustainable, but Rielly's underlying effect on the team's offense is huge even outside of that year. His effect on xGF and CF is similar to Theodore, the problem is he's also a drag on the defensive side of things, whereas Theodore is generally a positive, albeit in pretty soft minutes.

 

[LeafsNation75]

It wasn’t as much of a down year, as it was a regression. Every advanced stat pointed to Rielly’s 20 goal season as unsustainable and it proved to be correct.

This is Theodore, and moving forward it’s not very close at all.

I agree that there would have been some regression in Rielly's game last season compared to the 20 goals and 72 points he had in the 2018-19 Season.

However I'm sure when he was playing hurt and not at 100% did not help and part of the reason for his production.

 

[Brown Cat]

Shea Theodore and it is not even close.

Post advanced stats plz

 

[eli4spetterss0n]

I'd take Theodore without hesitation

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Post advanced stats plz

Spoiler

Theodore is probably a littele overrated according to these stats but he is still better. Both of them are cream of the crop offensively but Theodore doesn't give up anywhere near as much defensively.

 

[Trunz05]

I really like Theodore but it’s Mo for me. I think playing injured all season has a lot of people down on him and he’s going to come back to his 18-19 form quite nicely. I wouldn’t expect 20 goals again but I didn’t expect 20 goals that year either so who’s to say.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Reilly. Theodore has his team to thank for their insane puck possession abilities.

Rielly has his team's system and elite offensive talent to thank for his production as well and he is far from impressive defensively!

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Voted Rielly, but see no issue with anyone voting Theodore.

Only wrong answer would be the absolute goofs saying its not close one way or the other.

 

[AvroArrow]

It wasn’t as much of a down year, as it was a regression. Every advanced stat pointed to Rielly’s 20 goal season as unsustainable and it proved to be correct.

This is Theodore, and moving forward it’s not very close at all.

You couldn't be more wrong lol. He played injured all year and has had absolute garbage D partners his entire career. He'll be playing with Brodie this year and Rielly looks fully healthy. He will finish as a top 10 D man.

Advanced stats, lol.