Proposal: Montreal - Edmonton
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Oilers need Nurse way more than prospects.
I would be surprised if Montreal were interested in Spooner who got waived recently ( and no one picked him up ).
Also, i believe Bergevin was pretty clear when he said he wasn't going to move those young guys that we saw at the World Junior. I don't think Suzuki get moved, and i have doubt Nurse gets it done. Nothing against him, i just think it would be strange to see MB trade the main piece he got in return of his ex-captain.
Also, i believe Bergevin was pretty clear when he said he wasn't going to move those young guys that we saw at the World Junior. I don't think Suzuki get moved, and i have doubt Nurse gets it done. Nothing against him, i just think it would be strange to see MB trade the main piece he got in return of his ex-captain.
ChaoticOrange
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No, it does not work for Edmonton. Trading Nurse for magic beans would be one of the worst things we could possibly contemplate doing.
Neither Suzuki or Olofsson should be anywhere near the NHL next year and I’m not down for wasting more McDavid seasons by dealing one of our only good players for futures.
I’ll say it wouldn’t be awful if we wanted to deal for futures. We don’t.
Bakersfield would be a Calder Cup favourite, though. At least we’d have one team worth a damn. The Nurseless Oilers would be all-time terrible though.
Neither Suzuki or Olofsson should be anywhere near the NHL next year and I’m not down for wasting more McDavid seasons by dealing one of our only good players for futures.
I’ll say it wouldn’t be awful if we wanted to deal for futures. We don’t.
Bakersfield would be a Calder Cup favourite, though. At least we’d have one team worth a damn. The Nurseless Oilers would be all-time terrible though.
Captain97
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Fair enough but in a vacuum what do you think about the value.
High-end prospect + b prospect + pick + Habs take on a Cap dump
I think we easily win this trade as Nurse is already a top 4 two-way dman with more room for improvement.
I wouldn't like it as an Oilers fan.
Captain97
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Suzuki has a good chance of being in the NHL next year I think but I understand why the oilers wouldn't do it. I'm concerned about Nurse:s next contract for Edmonton.
Captain97
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Not even close tbh
Nurse is 23. On pace for 40+ points, still rounding out his defensive game and has a toolbox bursting at the seams at 6'4 220lbs. You don't trade those type of dmen (6'4 and skate like the wind) for picks/prospects.
Nurse is 23. On pace for 40+ points, still rounding out his defensive game and has a toolbox bursting at the seams at 6'4 220lbs. You don't trade those type of dmen (6'4 and skate like the wind) for picks/prospects.
ChaoticOrange
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I have a philosophy - you’ll never get in trouble playing your good homegrown talent what they’re worth. You guys, Toronto, and Winnipeg are good examples of this. You don’t usually get in too much trouble when you deal talent for roughly/theoretically equal CURRENT talent. Again; see Drouin/Serg and Domi/Galchenyuk.
Where you get in trouble is when you try to cut the line and pay big in free agency to patch the holes in your ship. You also get in big trouble when you deal current young strong performers for a handful of futures and hope everything works out. It usually doesn’t.
If we dealt Nurse fearing for his next contract, we’d just need to fill the hole with another #3 defenceman.
Nurse right now is similar to Trouba’s situation in Winnipeg. The Jets are going to have to figure something out eventually but they deal with that problem when it comes. He’s signed for another year after this one and is an RFA afterward. There’s limited leverage.
I wouldn’t say Nurse is completely untouchable - but it’s pretty damn close.
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Come summer of 2020 Lucic's contract is much easier to move. I don't see the Oilers having cap problems in two years.
As a Oilers armchair GM shoring up the defense is priority #1. Moving Nurse out doesn't fit in my future plans.
I understand the rush the push for more offense and making the playoffs, but time and time again this strategy has been the downfall of this franchise. Defense wins championships and its the core fundamental building block before building a continuing playoff contender. It's where previous GM's have made their blunders, that is to prioritize offense and completely forget about defense. New management better stop putting the cart in front of the horse.
As a Oilers armchair GM shoring up the defense is priority #1. Moving Nurse out doesn't fit in my future plans.
I understand the rush the push for more offense and making the playoffs, but time and time again this strategy has been the downfall of this franchise. Defense wins championships and its the core fundamental building block before building a continuing playoff contender. It's where previous GM's have made their blunders, that is to prioritize offense and completely forget about defense. New management better stop putting the cart in front of the horse.
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ChaoticOrange
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There is a possibility that we end up trading a defenceman mayyybe next offseason. Jones is trending up, Lagesson is trending up, Bouchard is coming and Bear was playing very well before he got hit in the head. Samorukov had an excellent WJC, as did Kemp. Persson is blowing up the Swedish league again and coming over next offseason, and reportedly Berglund is considering it as well. We will know what we’ve got with a lot of those guys by next offseason.
At that point, maybe a deal for a Habs forward makes sense. Would absolutely HAVE to be an established guy, though.
Captain97
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If a Mod would like to lock the thread it would seem while value isn't too bad the pieces are not what the oilers are after and they can not move the player in question at this time.
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There’s one player on the Oilers who skates like the wind and it’s definitely not Nurse. I don’t see the Oilers trading him.
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It’s brutal. Spooner only has a year left. Nobody moves a young top 4 defenceman to dump 1 year
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Nurse is a very good skater.
Fast, accelerates well, good on his edges. All at 6'4 220.
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DingDongCharlie
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So you ignores the top prospect, the b prospect, and the pick
We need another top 4 defenceman not a prospect or picks. It’s a horrible offer for Edmonton. A defence with Klefbom and Larsson as our only top 4 defencemen with Petrovic, Manning, Benning and Russell rounding out the core is what your essentially proposing for us. Sorry that’s a hard no!
Kris Russell as our #3 defenceman on the depth chart, and that’s when Klefbom is healthy. Honestly. This should absolutely be locked already.
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On one hand, I'd like having Nurse.
On the other hand, I would be pissed off to watch Suzuki being traded.
On the other hand, I would be pissed off to watch Suzuki being traded.
