LeBrun: Montreal and others interested in Gostisbehere, Flyers prefer to keep him but are listening
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mja
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Again, I repeat myself. Dude literally finished top 20 in Norris voting TWICE in his FOUR year career (he finished 10th last year). His current PPG is 13th for NHL defenseman since he broke into the league. He's not a perfect player, but he's gotten Norris votes in 2 of his 4 seasons. In his "down" years, he notched 39 and 37 points respectively. In one of those years, he played while recovering from surgery and didn't even get his legs under him until late in the season.
I would not trade him straight up for Gally, taking Flyers needs, position and contract status into account.
You'll have to excuse me, but I'm of the strong opinion that Ghost is in fact currently the Flyers best overall defenseman (though I think Sanheim may overtake him this season) and that his play suffered last season in no small part because his coach was an asshat who dicked him around and broke up a pairing that worked beautifully the year before (Provorov / Ghost, with Ghost being the lead on the pair on his off-hand) 5 games into the season because Provorov was struggling.
I really don't want to trade Ghost. I'd much rather keep him and see him bounce back to the 60 point defenseman who's underrated in his own end for the bargain price of 4.5 million for the next 4 years. The only way I would consider trading him is as part of a package for a true marquee player, i.e., not Brendan Gallagher.
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Ghost is falling into that crack where he’s supposedly a defensive nightmare who’s definitely not as good as we think....but you’ll definitely have him in a trade for next to nothing please.
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Why does a Norris contender have terrible advanced stats? I guess he's the type of player whos very bad on paper (analytics) but somehow he passes the eye test? But then again he also has a very high ozone start %..
Btw Gallagher is a good player everywhere. On paper, on the ice, in the dressing room, on the pay sheet, in practice, in the community, waiting in line to get coffee etc. Gallagher is what you call a real hockey player, sadly Ghost doesnt have the same amount of qualifications :[.
mja
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That’s great about Gallagher being great at hockey while waiting in line to get coffee and all, but it doesn’t change the fact he plays a less important position, one the Flyers are already deep at, and that he only has 2 more years on his contract. Wouldn’t make sense from the Flyers perspective.
I’m not an advanced stats guy (nor am I an anti-advanced stats guy) but zone starts are not really a meaningful stat (most shifts start on the fly and yes of course you are going to give your best offensive dman plenty of o zone starts to try to score goals), and out of curiosity, how did Ghost fare on advanced metrics the year before? It’s almost like the picture is a little more complex than the one you’re trying to draw.
BTW, weren’t you one of the Habs fans who suggested Giroux was on the decline and not even worth Galchenyuk and a 2nd?
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His value is quite high right now due to his term and puck moving ability, but he's really not that good at actually playing D, he is out there for so many goals against. With the D prospects in the pipeline and a good return, let him go.
Sorry, yes. I imagine that they try to trade Ghost maybe next year if Sanheims offensive game blossoms, for an ED exempt D man, if I had to guess.
There will likely be teams who want to be competitive who wont have all of their slots full (the flyers had at least one spare forward spot last time), and I imagine that's what we would target.
That's my guess/hope, anyway. But I also wouldve hoped we wouldnt have overpaid, over-termed, AND given a NMC to Kevin Hayes, so who really knows.
It's not really news, if you think about it. MB has a major hole to fix on LD, so I am sure he called about every GM to see what was out there. The part about Philly listening on offers is also kind of obvious; as a GM, you would be stupid not to.
I could retweet this 20 times with different names and be right. Brodin, Theodore, Suter, etc
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LMAO at the idea that Gallagher is worth more than Ghost. I'm not even the biggest Ghost fan either but a defenseman like him under contract for four more years at an aav of 4.5 million makes him extremely valuable. I get Montreal fans not wanting to trade Gallagher because he's a good player and fan favorite but come on 
We need a goal scorer in Philly, If Ghost does go, which I would be upset over, we better a player who can produce a lot of goals in return. Then I'll be pretty happy with the off season. To me, the Flyers have backed themselves into a corner with the unfriendly cap moves they made recently.
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I think ehlers is the only guy that makes sense from a return stand point. From a lineup standpoint is a very bad idea. Only if it’s part of multiple moves like ghost for ehlers and Jake for Subban. But for that they would have to not like ghost and Jake bc they are both good players and ghost is cheap.
I think this way too, but it’s not a great idea in the end. It’s still so far away. And if you have to lose ghost at 28-29 then that’s not the worst thing at that point. I don’t see his body holding up like burns.
Well if he played all 82 games instead of 78 he very well could have gotten the most points for dmen two years ago. He finished 4th. The top 3 all played 82 games and just outscored him.
I think this way too, but it’s not a great idea in the end. It’s still so far away. And if you have to lose ghost at 28-29 then that’s not the worst thing at that point. I don’t see his body holding up like burns.
This guy is a Norris contender? : O
Well if he played all 82 games instead of 78 he very well could have gotten the most points for dmen two years ago. He finished 4th. The top 3 all played 82 games and just outscored him.
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I think that we should keep him at least for 1-2 more years.
That 3rd unit would be f***ing deadly;
Lindblom - NP - Frost
Ghost - Myers
That 3rd unit would be f***ing deadly;
Lindblom - NP - Frost
Ghost - Myers
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Trading away players like Gostisbehere is not where the Flyers need to go. He had a tough season last year, needless to say the entire team stunk, he'll have another good season this year.....I only hope it's not in another uniform.
He was in 2017-2018 as well as a Calder contender when he played 1/2 the season in 15-16. So Ghosts ceiling is Norris contender and his contract literally might be the BEST in the entire NHL
Is Gallagher even Top 15 RW?
MTL would need to add for it to work
Top 20 doesn’t mean anything.
Yikes. Ehlers is younger, more talented and on a longer contract. I’m not saying it’s out of the realm but damn that isn’t a fair trade
Pipe dream. Gallagher isn’t going anywhere and if he was, it certainly wouldn’t be for Ghost.
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Flyers fans bringing Ghost to the "norris vote blablabla"
Funny, because when I bring Danault as "selke votes top 7" you all bring him down like he's not worth the Selke votes he got.
Funny, because when I bring Danault as "selke votes top 7" you all bring him down like he's not worth the Selke votes he got.
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he was listed a top 10 RW in the league.
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