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UPDATE: Waiver list can be seen in post #3. It's not comprehensive and other players who can be claimed can be found in most roster posts. Most if not all significant players should be on that list. You're allowed to claim player(s) if you won't go over the cap, roster or contract limit. Players can't be waived anymore. Waived players can't be traded, other than that trades can still be done. Waiver period ends Wednesday 3PM MT.
UFA Rules
Remember that no UFA re-signings are allowed until you have posted on your roster post a list of all players that have contracts, cap hit for players on your NHL roster and ones that have cap hit of over 0,925K, total cap and number of contracts.
UFA offers can be seen in post #3. I hope everyone participates here and gives their opinions on other teams offers. We'll start with every team being allowed to make their offers but if opinions (whether it's approvals or rejections) are coming slowly, only certain amount of teams can have their offers approved at once. Players that don't have team name in front of them, won't be re-signed by their previous team.
UFA re-signing list is a long one but i hope everyone goes through all of it and the final (pages) of this thread to see who needs opinions. The more often, the better.
-UFA rights can't be traded and every UFA will make it to UFA auction.
-Offers for 10-20 biggest UFAs) will have to be approved by other posters. Other posters (not part of that offer) decide which offer is the best. So the highest offer may not win if other posters feel like he would take less from another team. Let's try to keep it fair there.
-Offers can be made for 36 hours and then posters will decide which offer is the best. You can't counter or improve your offer at this stage, it has to be done in the first 36 hours without knowing what others feel about it. Next stage will start when those are done.
-Other offers will be decided by highest AAV over the next 36 hours.
-Offers can still be rejected if there's reasonable expectation the player wouldn't sign the deal.
- [ After the draft has been completed, there will be a short time period to do final trades, say, 24 hours. After that rosters are finalized with waivers and sending players to juniors/Europe.
RFA Rules
RFAs will follow similar rules to UFAs, except teams never lose their rights. So any re-signing should follow the 5 person acceptance rule. If you just plan to qualify RFA(s) please announce that too or if you plan not to offer anything for RFA(s). Any offer sheet will be the same. Offer sheet compensations are the same as last year. As offers sheets use picks from 2016 draft and on and those draft picks can't be traded, we'll assume that every team has them.
NEW Before the draft, RFA re-signings came pretty slow, due to lack of approvals (or rejections). So please give your thoughts on other team offers, whenever possible. If they still go slowly, we may have to set a rule that if poster doesn't give his opinion on at least 3 different teams UFAs, he'll lose his UFAs and is not allowed to participate in UFA auction. Hopefully we don't have to go that far.
NEW Rest of the RFA signings will be done before the UFA period, unless one consistently lowballs his players and gets lot of rejections, we'll start the UFA period anyway. Assuming those RFAs were qualified and are eligible for offer sheets, they can be offer sheeted. If one can't get his RFAs signed due to lack of approvals, extra time will be given.
Draft Rules, READ
The 2015 Avs Board Mock Draft will start at 12PM noon Mountain Time on Friday April 24th.
There will be a time frame available to make your pick, if you cannot make the pick in that time frame, a player will be selected for you (it will be the highest ranked North American skater available by central scouting). We all know that people sleep, so there will be a tad bit of leeway overnight. Now obviously everybody can't take the max limit of hours or we would never finish, so please pick as soon as you are ready. For any traded picks during the draft, the clock will not reset. Time frame is six hours for 1st round picks. Four hours for 2nd and 3rd round picks. Only 1 hour to make the remaining picks in the draft. This is open to changes, depending how fast or slow the draft goes and is pretty much guaranteed to change at some point so watch out for that. The draft clock ticks between 8AM and 10PM MT. You are allowed to make your pick outside that time frame and it's advisable if you can do it.
If you can't make your pick in time, it's ok, it happens (I'm Finnish so I assume I'll miss a pick or too if I haven't traded them all). If you know you can't make your pick in time, PM me, TV (she's out until next week so use me or Hench before that) or Hench with a list of players you'd like to take there (assuming they are still available, otherwise we'll go with next CS NA player). Or you could leave that pick just to be chosen by someone else who agrees to do it for you. The more comprehensive list (in order of preference) you give, the better chance you get one of your players as many of them might be gone by the time your pick is gone. Obviously if there's only one pick between you, only 2 player list is necessary etc.
After you've made your pick, always, ALWAYS, PM the next poster that his/her turn is up. If previous poster didn't PM you and your pick was wauto-picked, we can allow you to re-pick if the player you wanted hasn't been taken. Assuming you announce this pretty close to your draft pick position, not something like 20 picks later.
I'll update the post #2 with the picks and try to give info on OP on where the draft is going (mid-1st, early 4th etc.) but I'm not always here so check the final page of the thread. Make sure your spelling is correct with the your draft pick names. To make sure, search for the thread on the player name you're going to pick to make sure the player hasn't already been taken. If you pick a player that has been already been taken and don't correct it immdeidately, there may be a punishment (that draft pick drops down by 5 spots). I might be late with updates on post #2 so just looking at it might not be enough.
Trades are of course allowed through out the draft.
So, we did this last year and Hench, me and TV were talking about this and would like to do it again, if we can get 30 GMs. We discussed about some changes. Adds, corrections etc. are recommendable if you have them.
This will be a full 7 round mock draft, if we can get everybody to play along. Last year we knew the draft order but we would like to do this quicker as the real draft and FA kind of killed this. So we'll go with regular season standings for draft order. We can wait until the draft lottery and see who gets the 1st overall pick. other than that, Sabres get the 1st pick, Coyotes the 2nd etc. until the Rangers which get the 30th pick (assuming no previous trades).
Current picks owned by teams are what is shown in here. Conditional picks in which the conditions are yet to be determined will not be put in use. For example, Oilers have the 5th round pick from the Habs that they got from the Jeff Petry trade (would become 4th if Habs advance to 2nd round and 3rd if they advance to conference finals).
Any player or their rights can be traded, and picks can be traded between GMs. No limits to how many trades you can make, but no future draft picks (beyond 2015 draft) or conditionals shall be traded.
Unlike last year, Avs are also available for a mock use.
NEW Waiver rules
First I apologize for not notifying this sooner. We didn't get to UFA the last time so didn't think about the roster finalization until lately. However, there is still plenty of time to make necessary adjustments so you won't lose talented players via waivers. This is also unlikely to affect significantly more than few teams if that and those teams should be able to make adjustments. I'd assume most keep those players as 13/14F or 7D as this mock doesn't care a crap about those players development or feelings.
A list of 'significant' players that have to pass through waivers are on post #3. It won't include the likes of Seguin and Landeskog obviously but they'll obviously have to go through and will get claimed. List does include the likes of Stefan Elliott and Joey Hishon. It won't include the likes of Ben Street, Karl Stollery or Paul Carey or other marquee players that won't pop to my eyes when I scan through the team rosters. One is allowed to claim them but they have to be mentioned in this thread specifically. If one does want some player(s) that much that isn't on the list, he should be able to notice that player(s) is/are not on the final roster (everyone publishes those after UFA is done and preferably most of it is done sooner) or on my waiver list . I'll help with finding out what that/those players waiver status is if you can't or don't know how to do it. Send me a PM. The sooner the better.
Basically if a player isn't on the final roster, he is sent down and will go through waivers if he fills the criteria. One is allowed to waive players that don't have NMC. This will be harder to check on some cases with no capgeek though.
I'll take requests if you want to check on some player(s) waiver status. Doesn't have to be just your own players.
Waiver claim order will follow the order of reverse standings what they were as this mock started. Basically the draft order. I'll post it after the draft is done if it's not clear. Be careful with the 50 contract rule. I'll post a list of players waived (again, not every player) and everyone has 24 hours to tell who they want to claim. Basically, post a list of players you want to claim, nothing else. Doesn't matter when you do it during that 24 hour period, as long as you do it if you want to claim someone. Claiming order will still be the reverse standings.
Layman's version here on waiver rules. Rule of thumb: Every skater who signed their NHL contract 2012 or before and played pro (not juniors or NCAA) 2012-13 season, has to go through waivers unless he was 19 or younger and played 10 or less games in NHL that season. This applies to most players born in 1992, so mostly 2010 draftees and earlier and some 2011 draftees. Goalies have an extra year. The date when player signed his NHL contract is easy to check with google. I've done it for a 10 players or so and found out the answer on the first page.
There is still plenty of time to finalize your roster and prepare for waivers. As of now (30th April) it's likely more than a week away.
NTC Rules
Trade will go through unless 5 posters think the trade isn't realistic. Posters have to tell their reasoning.
Some of this stuff is hard to track with no capgeek but we'll see what we can do. Hockeybuzz, NHLnumbers, spotrac and war-on-ice are sites where you can find contract stuff. war-on-ice has at least Patrice Bergeron contract different that other sites (higher cap hit by 375K) but we'll go with other sites info in that one as Bruins also announced those numbers.
Some additional rules/clarifications
We are going with the assumption that Slava Voynov is excluded and no team can sign him.
If you have two teams in this mock, you're not allowed to make a trade between those two teams.
Cap is set at 70.5 million. Hard cap. Unlike in NHL offseason, teams aren't allowed to go over it. Any transactions that will result a team having higher average annual salary will be rejected. Minimum of 20 man rosters are required.
Unless noted otherwise we'll follow the rules of the current CBA.
Last year posters were free to choose any team they wanted after they entered the mock but we are planning to go with lottery this time around. I'm #1, Hench is #2 and TV is #3. First person to enter besides us will be #4 and the next one #5 until all 30 spots are taken. Then, either me, Hench, TV or whoever, will do a number generator with those 30 numbers (there are tons of them out there) and posters are free to choose any team when their order comes (except for the last poor guy). Say If #15 is first and #27 is second and #9 is third, #15 is feel to choose any team, #27 any of the remaining teams as is #9 all the way until all of them are taken. We'll give 5 hours (between (8AM and 10 PM MT but you're allowed to make your pick outside of that time frame, it's even advisable if it's possible) to choose a team but it's preferable you make your pick as soon as possible. Remember to PM the next poster. If poster fails to choose a team in that time frame the next team will be chosen automatically; next team alphabetically .
Hench, TV and me liked these rules but additions, corrections, recommendations, feel free to give them.
UFA Rules
Remember that no UFA re-signings are allowed until you have posted on your roster post a list of all players that have contracts, cap hit for players on your NHL roster and ones that have cap hit of over 0,925K, total cap and number of contracts.
UFA offers can be seen in post #3. I hope everyone participates here and gives their opinions on other teams offers. We'll start with every team being allowed to make their offers but if opinions (whether it's approvals or rejections) are coming slowly, only certain amount of teams can have their offers approved at once. Players that don't have team name in front of them, won't be re-signed by their previous team.
UFA re-signing list is a long one but i hope everyone goes through all of it and the final (pages) of this thread to see who needs opinions. The more often, the better.
-UFA rights can't be traded and every UFA will make it to UFA auction.
-Offers for 10-20 biggest UFAs) will have to be approved by other posters. Other posters (not part of that offer) decide which offer is the best. So the highest offer may not win if other posters feel like he would take less from another team. Let's try to keep it fair there.
-Offers can be made for 36 hours and then posters will decide which offer is the best. You can't counter or improve your offer at this stage, it has to be done in the first 36 hours without knowing what others feel about it. Next stage will start when those are done.
-Other offers will be decided by highest AAV over the next 36 hours.
-Offers can still be rejected if there's reasonable expectation the player wouldn't sign the deal.
- [ After the draft has been completed, there will be a short time period to do final trades, say, 24 hours. After that rosters are finalized with waivers and sending players to juniors/Europe.
RFA Rules
RFAs will follow similar rules to UFAs, except teams never lose their rights. So any re-signing should follow the 5 person acceptance rule. If you just plan to qualify RFA(s) please announce that too or if you plan not to offer anything for RFA(s). Any offer sheet will be the same. Offer sheet compensations are the same as last year. As offers sheets use picks from 2016 draft and on and those draft picks can't be traded, we'll assume that every team has them.
NEW Before the draft, RFA re-signings came pretty slow, due to lack of approvals (or rejections). So please give your thoughts on other team offers, whenever possible. If they still go slowly, we may have to set a rule that if poster doesn't give his opinion on at least 3 different teams UFAs, he'll lose his UFAs and is not allowed to participate in UFA auction. Hopefully we don't have to go that far.
NEW Rest of the RFA signings will be done before the UFA period, unless one consistently lowballs his players and gets lot of rejections, we'll start the UFA period anyway. Assuming those RFAs were qualified and are eligible for offer sheets, they can be offer sheeted. If one can't get his RFAs signed due to lack of approvals, extra time will be given.
Draft Rules, READ
The 2015 Avs Board Mock Draft will start at 12PM noon Mountain Time on Friday April 24th.
There will be a time frame available to make your pick, if you cannot make the pick in that time frame, a player will be selected for you (it will be the highest ranked North American skater available by central scouting). We all know that people sleep, so there will be a tad bit of leeway overnight. Now obviously everybody can't take the max limit of hours or we would never finish, so please pick as soon as you are ready. For any traded picks during the draft, the clock will not reset. Time frame is six hours for 1st round picks. Four hours for 2nd and 3rd round picks. Only 1 hour to make the remaining picks in the draft. This is open to changes, depending how fast or slow the draft goes and is pretty much guaranteed to change at some point so watch out for that. The draft clock ticks between 8AM and 10PM MT. You are allowed to make your pick outside that time frame and it's advisable if you can do it.
If you can't make your pick in time, it's ok, it happens (I'm Finnish so I assume I'll miss a pick or too if I haven't traded them all). If you know you can't make your pick in time, PM me, TV (she's out until next week so use me or Hench before that) or Hench with a list of players you'd like to take there (assuming they are still available, otherwise we'll go with next CS NA player). Or you could leave that pick just to be chosen by someone else who agrees to do it for you. The more comprehensive list (in order of preference) you give, the better chance you get one of your players as many of them might be gone by the time your pick is gone. Obviously if there's only one pick between you, only 2 player list is necessary etc.
After you've made your pick, always, ALWAYS, PM the next poster that his/her turn is up. If previous poster didn't PM you and your pick was wauto-picked, we can allow you to re-pick if the player you wanted hasn't been taken. Assuming you announce this pretty close to your draft pick position, not something like 20 picks later.
I'll update the post #2 with the picks and try to give info on OP on where the draft is going (mid-1st, early 4th etc.) but I'm not always here so check the final page of the thread. Make sure your spelling is correct with the your draft pick names. To make sure, search for the thread on the player name you're going to pick to make sure the player hasn't already been taken. If you pick a player that has been already been taken and don't correct it immdeidately, there may be a punishment (that draft pick drops down by 5 spots). I might be late with updates on post #2 so just looking at it might not be enough.
Trades are of course allowed through out the draft.
So, we did this last year and Hench, me and TV were talking about this and would like to do it again, if we can get 30 GMs. We discussed about some changes. Adds, corrections etc. are recommendable if you have them.
This will be a full 7 round mock draft, if we can get everybody to play along. Last year we knew the draft order but we would like to do this quicker as the real draft and FA kind of killed this. So we'll go with regular season standings for draft order. We can wait until the draft lottery and see who gets the 1st overall pick. other than that, Sabres get the 1st pick, Coyotes the 2nd etc. until the Rangers which get the 30th pick (assuming no previous trades).
Current picks owned by teams are what is shown in here. Conditional picks in which the conditions are yet to be determined will not be put in use. For example, Oilers have the 5th round pick from the Habs that they got from the Jeff Petry trade (would become 4th if Habs advance to 2nd round and 3rd if they advance to conference finals).
Any player or their rights can be traded, and picks can be traded between GMs. No limits to how many trades you can make, but no future draft picks (beyond 2015 draft) or conditionals shall be traded.
Unlike last year, Avs are also available for a mock use.
NEW Waiver rules
First I apologize for not notifying this sooner. We didn't get to UFA the last time so didn't think about the roster finalization until lately. However, there is still plenty of time to make necessary adjustments so you won't lose talented players via waivers. This is also unlikely to affect significantly more than few teams if that and those teams should be able to make adjustments. I'd assume most keep those players as 13/14F or 7D as this mock doesn't care a crap about those players development or feelings.
A list of 'significant' players that have to pass through waivers are on post #3. It won't include the likes of Seguin and Landeskog obviously but they'll obviously have to go through and will get claimed. List does include the likes of Stefan Elliott and Joey Hishon. It won't include the likes of Ben Street, Karl Stollery or Paul Carey or other marquee players that won't pop to my eyes when I scan through the team rosters. One is allowed to claim them but they have to be mentioned in this thread specifically. If one does want some player(s) that much that isn't on the list, he should be able to notice that player(s) is/are not on the final roster (everyone publishes those after UFA is done and preferably most of it is done sooner) or on my waiver list . I'll help with finding out what that/those players waiver status is if you can't or don't know how to do it. Send me a PM. The sooner the better.
Basically if a player isn't on the final roster, he is sent down and will go through waivers if he fills the criteria. One is allowed to waive players that don't have NMC. This will be harder to check on some cases with no capgeek though.
I'll take requests if you want to check on some player(s) waiver status. Doesn't have to be just your own players.
Waiver claim order will follow the order of reverse standings what they were as this mock started. Basically the draft order. I'll post it after the draft is done if it's not clear. Be careful with the 50 contract rule. I'll post a list of players waived (again, not every player) and everyone has 24 hours to tell who they want to claim. Basically, post a list of players you want to claim, nothing else. Doesn't matter when you do it during that 24 hour period, as long as you do it if you want to claim someone. Claiming order will still be the reverse standings.
Layman's version here on waiver rules. Rule of thumb: Every skater who signed their NHL contract 2012 or before and played pro (not juniors or NCAA) 2012-13 season, has to go through waivers unless he was 19 or younger and played 10 or less games in NHL that season. This applies to most players born in 1992, so mostly 2010 draftees and earlier and some 2011 draftees. Goalies have an extra year. The date when player signed his NHL contract is easy to check with google. I've done it for a 10 players or so and found out the answer on the first page.
There is still plenty of time to finalize your roster and prepare for waivers. As of now (30th April) it's likely more than a week away.
NTC Rules
Trade will go through unless 5 posters think the trade isn't realistic. Posters have to tell their reasoning.
Some of this stuff is hard to track with no capgeek but we'll see what we can do. Hockeybuzz, NHLnumbers, spotrac and war-on-ice are sites where you can find contract stuff. war-on-ice has at least Patrice Bergeron contract different that other sites (higher cap hit by 375K) but we'll go with other sites info in that one as Bruins also announced those numbers.
Some additional rules/clarifications
We are going with the assumption that Slava Voynov is excluded and no team can sign him.
If you have two teams in this mock, you're not allowed to make a trade between those two teams.
Cap is set at 70.5 million. Hard cap. Unlike in NHL offseason, teams aren't allowed to go over it. Any transactions that will result a team having higher average annual salary will be rejected. Minimum of 20 man rosters are required.
Unless noted otherwise we'll follow the rules of the current CBA.
Last year posters were free to choose any team they wanted after they entered the mock but we are planning to go with lottery this time around. I'm #1, Hench is #2 and TV is #3. First person to enter besides us will be #4 and the next one #5 until all 30 spots are taken. Then, either me, Hench, TV or whoever, will do a number generator with those 30 numbers (there are tons of them out there) and posters are free to choose any team when their order comes (except for the last poor guy). Say If #15 is first and #27 is second and #9 is third, #15 is feel to choose any team, #27 any of the remaining teams as is #9 all the way until all of them are taken. We'll give 5 hours (between (8AM and 10 PM MT but you're allowed to make your pick outside of that time frame, it's even advisable if it's possible) to choose a team but it's preferable you make your pick as soon as possible. Remember to PM the next poster. If poster fails to choose a team in that time frame the next team will be chosen automatically; next team alphabetically .
Hench, TV and me liked these rules but additions, corrections, recommendations, feel free to give them.
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