MLB work stoppage almost certain on Dec. 2

[LadyStanley]

MLB lockout progress? Negotiations pick up steam with union proposal

In first hint of progress, MLB and union representatives will meet for second day in a row.


Discussions on Monday, and now Tuesday.

Some positional movement, maybe that will continue

 

[LadyStanley]

Heated MLB bargaining includes mention of canceling games — but progress, too

Paywall. Met further on Monday. Canceling games mentioned and one side took that as a threat.

#posturing

 

[golfortennis]

Montreal should be in the AL East with Toronto, Boston, and New York. All three cities are close and could make for good rivalries. The old expos being in the NL hurt them I believe - not as much as having bad owners, stadiums etc. The Blue Jays also need a natural rival and no better city than Montreal to provide that.

Detroit and Toronto had a great rivalry that filled both parks when they played. But alas, had to cut those down so that Pittsburgh showed up every once in a while.

 

[OG6ix]

Detroit and Toronto had a great rivalry that filled both parks when they played. But alas, had to cut those down so that Pittsburgh showed up every once in a while.

I loved those games against the Tigers, white sox, and Indians I kind of wish MLB would just go to the two divisions in the AL again or at least put the Jays back in the central as we are closer.

 

[LadyStanley]

Latest on MLB lockout: Max Scherzer fires back as MLB doubles down on rejected mediation request

MLB owners commenced a lockout of the players following the expiration of the Collective Bargaining Agreement on Dec. 1. Here is the latest...

Union rejects league request for federal mediation

 

[joelef]

Nobody is talking about mob lockout how baseball has fallen

 

[LadyStanley]

MLB lockout: Rob Manfred refuses to concede spring training delay as scheduled report date approaches

The league acknowledged the inevitable: Spring training will not start on time as negotiations languish.


But commissioner doesn't

 

[LadyStanley]

Why Rob Manfred told his short-sighted lie about MLB teams being bad investments

The lie is that while teams may not have great income, they are excellent long term investments and capitalization of value is seen at sale.

 

[LadyStanley]

MLB has not "announced" any delay to start of spring training, but all the pundits think that it won't start on time.

Sweeping MLB proposal leaves union underwhelmed, all but ensuring spring training delay

And now this

 

[LadyStanley]

MLB lockout: There's no way to force team owners to put wins over dollars

As the MLB lockout draws on, negotiations must contend with the reality that team owners have made a habit of scouring each labor agreement for loopholes and e...



Looking for $$ rather than wins

 

[LadyStanley]

Drellich: Incremental moves in MLB bargaining won't save Opening Day, standard season

Paywall. Progress, but not enough to prevent delay in season start.

 

[LadyStanley]

MLB lockout: Owners reiterate hard Monday deadline to avoid shortened 2022 season

Monday deadline for on time season start

 

[LadyStanley]

MLB lockout: Progress? Rob Manfred meets with union for first time during labor talks

Manfred and Clark had 30 minute meeting/chat to try and get process progressing

 

[LadyStanley]

MLB lockout negotiations turn hostile as owners reject players' comprehensive proposal

League rejects players proposal. Union will return to negotiation Sunday, but nearly didn't.

League will not reschedule any games cancelled due to lockout (and players won't be paid for lost games).

 

[LadyStanley]

The MLB lockout is cementing Rob Manfred's legacy. Baseball may never look the same

Unflattering Manfred column.

Players willing to lose up to a month of games. Manfred holding onto his owners' coattails.

 

[LadyStanley]

Marathon MLB lockout talks extend window to save opening day, Tuesday now crucial

After a marathon negotiating session on Monday, progress made, but deal not done. MLB extended deadline by one day to avoid losing games.

 

[Mightygoose]

We're on the verge of the need to count backwards



Deadline is 25 minutes from the time of this post

 

[LadyStanley]

MLBPA rejects MLB's final CBA offer before league's Tuesday deadline

Paywall. The Athletic story on union not accepting latest proposed CBA.

So deadline not met.

Will MLB cancel week to week? How will MiLB be impacted?

 

[Terrier]

MLBPA rejects MLB's final CBA offer before league's Tuesday deadline

Paywall. The Athletic story on union not accepting latest proposed CBA.

So deadline not met.

Will MLB cancel week to week? How will MiLB be impacted?

I'm always reading and hearing that MLB is swimming in cash, so not grinding out a deal before the deadline(five minutes from now) is surprising. Both sides surely know that losing a significant chunk of the regular season would be a disaster. I care mainly because the loss of regular season games will hurt the city of Boston.

 

[DaBadGuy7]

 

[LadyStanley]

MLB cancels games as Rob Manfred announces lockout will delay 2022 opening day

Some details on economic split in recent proposals.

 

[LadyStanley]

First two series cancelled (so about a week)

 

[Big Z Man 1990]

We haven't had a decade without games being canceled due to a labor dispute in any league since the 1960s.

How likely is the 2030s to be labor dispute-related cancellation-free?

 

[LadyStanley]

Paywall. For those with Athletic subscriptions, some links on MLB stuff

 

[LadyStanley]

Don't call the MLB lockout millionaires vs. billionaires. There are far bigger stakes

A look at the economics being fought in these negotiations.

MLB teams limit contract $$s to players in their first SIX seasons before they can reach free agency. (Contrast that to NHL which limits a player's first/entry level contract.)

Article looked at statistics showing that nearly half of all base hits are made by guys in 1st six years of playing.

Yet, teams usually aren't willing to pay free agents for their past work, and have manipulated system to not allow timely free agency (manipulating tenure by keeping kids in minors, etc.).

That's a major push of focus by union in these negotiations.