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renberg

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Stizzle said:
I just listened to a Button interview from yesterday. At the very end he said Couturier isn't even close to Scheifele or Zibanejad. :shakehead

He was pretty much saying Hanifin's case is similar to what Couturier was in 2011. I understand what he's trying to say. Too bad he's way off base saying those guys are AINEC better than Couts.

http://www.tsn.ca/radio/button-hanifin-good-but-not-an-elite-defenceman-1.251096
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The critics of Coutourier aren't willing to accept the merit of the role that he has played since he came here. Also the fact that he's been injured off and on during his career, enough to limit his off season regimens.
His defense is better than anyone I've ever seen for a player of his age. Stats skew things in favor of the scorers-we see their goal/assist numbers. For a guy like SC there aren't adequate stats to show the goals that he has prevented.
During the last six weeks we have had a chance to see what he can do on offense. His play in the corners and in front of the net improved immensely with decent play by his wingers. Physically he is starting to fill out and get stronger. He's going to be a beast.
 
Curufinwe

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Those stats do exist. I'm pretty sure Appleyard has shown Couturier out produces the forwards he's matched up against, even though they are usually the other team's best players.
 
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Curufinwe said:
Those stats do exist. I'm pretty sure Appleyard has shown Couturier out produces the forwards he's matched up against, even though they are usually the other team's best players.
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But typically the other teams best offensive players are not the best defensive players.
 
Jtown

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I love how when button says something about morin ghost and sanheim our unbiased fanbase praises him.

ANd then when he talks about couturier our unbiased fanbase is able to find fault with him.
 
Beef Invictus

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Jtown said:
I love how when button says something about morin ghost and sanheim our unbiased fanbase praises him.

ANd then when he talks about couturier our unbiased fanbase is able to find fault with him.
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It depends on if what he's saying makes sense.


Like your usual criticisms of Couturier, this did not make sense, and it certainly damages his credibility in my eyes.
 
Striiker

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Jtown said:
I love how when button says something about morin ghost and sanheim our unbiased fanbase praises him.

ANd then when he talks about couturier our unbiased fanbase is able to find fault with him.
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It's almost as if someone can be right at times and wrong at others....

Crazy, I know.
 

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Sometimes Button is right, sometimes he's wrong. It's his job to be opinionated.

And of course people are going to be happy that somebody outside of the organization is gushing about Sanheim and Morin. I'd be happy no matter who it was saying the things he's said about those two.
 
Stizzle

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Funf said:
Sometimes Button is right, sometimes he's wrong. It's his job to be opinionated.

And of course people are going to be happy that somebody outside of the organization is gushing about Sanheim and Morin. I'd be happy no matter who it was saying the things he's said about those two.
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Button just clarified on his Couturier statement when asked about it...

"I didn't mean it to come across like that. Sean is solid. I was trying to reference thought at draft time with respect to others, specifically Zibanejad & Scheifele. You are right & I was wrong in way I said it. I have to be better in that regard. Thanks for pointing that out. Appreciate it".
 
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Stizzle said:
Button just clarified on his Couturier statement when asked about it...

"I didn't mean it to come across like that. Sean is solid. I was trying to reference thought at draft time with respect to others, specifically Zibanejad & Scheifele. You are right & I was wrong in way I said it. I have to be better in that regard. Thanks for pointing that out. Appreciate it".
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Classy.
 
Stizzle

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Curufinwe said:
Classy.
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Button just added...

Sean is a very solid player. I never saw him as a prolific offensive player into his draft year but basically as what he is. But because he had put up good offensive numbers in junior, there was a thought he would do same in NHL. Real contributor. The point I didn't make was that there was disbelief at draft time that Zibanejad & Scheifele could be in same discussion.
 
FLYguy3911

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Yeah, Button's a pretty positive guy, even when he had Virtanen as low as he did last year, he would never expose the kid when give the chance to.
 
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Calgary is already up 2:0. Normally I'm against being a bandwagoner, but I love to watch the Flames play. They're just too fast for the Kings.
 
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