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flyershockey · Feb 17, 2013

Krishna said:
I was joking. All I'd really want would be a first + D prospect for briere

And Giroux is definitely a top 5 c

Crosby
Malkin
Stamkos
Giroux
Tavares

In comes the Datsyuk reference, even though he hasn't had an elite season since they won the cup in 2008.

Primary Assist* · Feb 17, 2013

Krishna said:
I was joking. All I'd really want would be a first + D prospect for briere

And Giroux is definitely a top 5 c

Crosby
Malkin
Stamkos
Giroux
Tavares

Jonathan Toews, Anze Kopitar, and Pavel Datsyuk all say hello, have all lifted the Stanley Cup over their heads.

Ryker · Feb 17, 2013

Krishna said:
And Giroux is definitely a top 5 c

Crosby
Malkin
Stamkos
Giroux
Tavares

Primary Assist said:
Jonathan Toews, Anze Kopitar, and Pavel Datsyuk all say hello, have all lifted the Stanley Cup over their heads.

flyershockey said:
In comes the Datsyuk reference, even though he hasn't had an elite season since they won the cup in 2008.

In my opinion, there are four clearly better than him, Crosby, Malkin, Stamkos and Toews. And yes, I would argue Datsyuk is better than Giroux, so that would be my fifth choice. I'd then put him in the same category as Thornton, Staal, Kopitar and H. Sedin, but being undecided about whether Tavares is there yet.

Krishna · Feb 17, 2013

Primary Assist said:
Jonathan Toews, Anze Kopitar, and Pavel Datsyuk all say hello, have all lifted the Stanley Cup over their heads.

Stanley cups make you top players?

Also, Kopitar and Datsyuk are both older than Giroux. Toews is a year younger but got a shot at making his team earlier due to his team being absolutely trash.

flyershockey · Feb 17, 2013

Primary Assist said:
Jonathan Toews, Anze Kopitar, and Pavel Datsyuk all say hello, have all lifted the Stanley Cup over their heads.

Let the history books show that they all won those cups single-handedly too.

Ryker said:
In my opinion, there are four clearly better than him, Crosby, Malkin, Stamkos and Toews. And yes, I would argue Datsyuk is better than Giroux, so that would be my fifth choice. I'd then put him in the same category as Thornton, Staal, Kopitar and H. Sedin, but being undecided about whether Tavares is there yet.

Toews is clearly ahead of Giroux? I'd love to hear you rationale behind that.

OrangeAndBlackMetal · Feb 17, 2013

Giroux is better than toews.

Primary Assist* · Feb 17, 2013

orange is better said:
Giroux is better than toews.

30 teams beg to disagree, including the one that plays in Philadelphia.
Put the two on the open market: Who would net you more in a trade?

CutOnDime97 · Feb 17, 2013

orange is better said:
Giroux is better than toews.

Toews may be a bit better but it's definitely close

FLYguy3911 · Feb 17, 2013

Krishna said:
Toews is a year younger but got a shot at making his team earlier due to his team being absolutely trash.

What does that have to do with it?

TheLegendkiller · Feb 17, 2013

Primary Assist said:
30 teams beg to disagree, including the one that plays in Philadelphia.
Put the two on the open market: Who would net you more in a trade?

Yeah, okay. Somebody cue the Jennifer Lawrence gif.

Your logic on this matter was flawed to begin with when you used the cup reference.

OrangeAndBlackMetal · Feb 17, 2013

Primary Assist said:
30 teams beg to disagree, including the one that plays in Philadelphia.
Put the two on the open market: Who would net you more in a trade?

Claude Giroux.

Garbage Goal · Feb 17, 2013

TheLegendkiller said:
Why do you think this team is due to failure? You seem so worried about its construction when they're 4-1-1 in their last 6 and trending upward. Why don't you wait before you start freaking out. This GM has taken a team from dead last to the ECF the final next year. Then the SCF 2 years later and into the playoffs the last couple years. If things get real bad THAN you fire him. You don't fire a winning GM while the team is winning. And no, a 13 game sample size isn't enough to become a losing team.

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So much for 4-1-1 and trending upward.

Garbage Goal · Feb 17, 2013

You'd be crazy to think Toews wouldn't net more then Giroux as far as the present is concerned. If its Giroux at his peak then it's easily Giroux though.

TheLegendkiller · Feb 17, 2013

Garbage Goal said:
So much for 4-1-1 and trending upward.

Oh I'm sorry I don't have a crystal ball like you do, slick. But its more of a problem with the team's lackluster effort and not its construction.

Garbage Goal · Feb 17, 2013

TheLegendkiller said:
Oh I'm sorry I don't have a crystal ball like you do, slick. But its more of a problem with the team's lackluster effort and not its construction.

You keep on believing its not a matter of team construction. Not my fault you don't have a crystal ball. If you don't then don't throw around small sample sizes and terms like "trending upward".

SolidSnakeUS · Feb 17, 2013

Am I the only one that think that John Carlson looks like a descendant of Brian Peppers?

TheLegendkiller · Feb 17, 2013

Garbage Goal said:
You keep on believing its not a matter of team construction. Not my fault you don't have a crystal ball. If you don't then don't throw around small sample sizes and terms like "trending upward".

Its called benchmarking and its done all the time to get an idea about how a team is doing. Sometimes its right and sometimes its not. But you can keep believing your right all the time since you know everything. Maybe you think you can do a better job?

Did you really have that little to do today that you had that quote on standby?

Garbage Goal · Feb 17, 2013

TheLegendkiller said:
Its called benchmarking and its done all the time to get an idea about how a team is doing. Sometimes its right and sometimes its not. But you can keep believing your right all the time since you know everything. Maybe you think you can do a better job?

Did you really have that little to do today that you had that quote on standby?

Yeah that minute it took to go back and quote your post really bit into my life there.

I just like pointing out when Internet tough guys are wrong.

SolidSnakeUS · Feb 17, 2013

Richards with a goal. Wonder if they can tie it up.

TheLegendkiller · Feb 17, 2013

Garbage Goal said:
Yeah that minute it took to go back and quote your post really bit into my life there.

I just like pointing out when Internet tough guys are wrong.

Then you obviously need a new goal in life. :laugh:

BackToTheBrierePatch · Feb 17, 2013

SolidSnakeUS said:
Richards with a goal. Wonder if they can tie it up.

Richards had both for LA.

SolidSnakeUS · Feb 17, 2013

I didn't know he had the first one till they mentioned it. I originally thought it was Gagne because when they scored, it showed Gagne when I looked at the TV.

MsMeow · Feb 17, 2013

I would take Toews over almost every other centre in the league and that includes Roo. I prefer 2 way forwards ober guys who are mostly offensive.

TheLegendkiller · Feb 17, 2013

MsWoof said:
I would take Toews over almost every other centre in the league and that includes Roo. I prefer 2 way forwards ober guys who are mostly offensive.

Then you'll need a Pat Kane, Patrick Sharp, and a Marian Hossa for scoring.

MiamiScreamingEagles · Feb 17, 2013

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