Miscellaneous NHL Discussion LXI: The highway on which the bleachers are out in the sun

[CanadianFlyer88]

Third Vegas goal in 2 games directly off of a faceoff.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Petry legitimately looks like a vampire or some shit.

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

Oilers got a 2nd and a 4th for him.

https://thehockeywriters.com/oilers-petry-trade-revisited/

In the span of just over a year they traded away Petry, traded a first and a second for Griffin f***ing Reinhart, and managed to turn one Taylor Hall into one Adam Larsson.

That’s criminal levels of mismanagement. People should be in jail because of it.

 

[FLYguy3911]

At least that 1st round pick didn't turn into anything special.

 

[GKJ]

Danault can play for my team any day

 

[CutOnDime97]

Right in the numbers. Gotta call that.

 

[CutOnDime97]

f*** it, I'm on the Habs bandwagon now

 

[Flyerfan4life]

godamit Vegas, you had 1 job...


f*** the Habs...that is all...

 

[dats81]

Hindsight is always 20/20.
Some of the people enamored with Petry now and making fun of the Oilers and that trade for a 2nd and a 4th were strictly against getting him onto the Flyers.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Hindsight is always 20/20.
Some of the people enamored with Petry now and making fun of the Oilers and that trade for a 2nd and a 4th were strictly against getting him onto the Flyers.

He was traded as a pending UFA rental & ultimately signed with Montreal before July 1st that year. He never hit the market. The Flyers weren’t in the playoff hunt that year & even traded Coburn themselves.

Not really sure the point of this as the opportunity never really realistically presented itself.

 

[Magua]

Hindsight is always 20/20.
Some of the people enamored with Petry now and making fun of the Oilers and that trade for a 2nd and a 4th were strictly against getting him onto the Flyers.

That sounds like revisionist history. I know Petry was valued as a sneaky good player on the Oilers pre-trade, and that trade was laughed at without any hindsight.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Petry has gotten better with age, as someone said. He's been better in Montreal than he was in Edmonton, especially the last few years. Maybe playing for a more organized team has been beneficial. Or maybe he's just one of those somewhat rare guys who keeps improving into his 30s. Giordano was like that. Mike Knuble was like that.

 

[deadhead]

I hope we're not going to get the "if only we had Management like the Habs" riffs now.
Snuck into the playoffs with 86 points (prorated) in the weakest division.
They made a few decent moves:

4/21 Gus for 2022 7th rd
3/21 Staal for 3rd and 5th
12/20 Perry FA
10/20 Toffoli - FA, 4yr/$17M, having a great playoff but probably not sustainable
10/20 Anderson for Domi & 3rd
9/20 Edmundson for 5th rd, trade & sign, 4yr/$14M
7/19 Chairot FA, 3yr/$10.5M
10/18 Kulak for Taormina & Valiev
6/18 Armia, Mason & 4th for Bourque (think this was salary dump for Mason) [at 24, Armia had 23 ES points in 79 games]
9/18 Suzuki, Tatar & 2nd rd for Pacioretty
2/16 Danault & 2nd for Fleischman and Weise [at age 22, the #26 pick was a flop, with 5 ES points in 30 games for Chicago]
10/15 Byron, waivers

Danault should be a cautionary tale about giving up on young players too quickly, i.e. Patrick.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

I hope we're not going to get the "if only we had Management like the Habs" riffs now.
Snuck into the playoffs with 86 points (prorated) in the weakest division.
They made a few decent moves:

4/21 Gus for 2022 7th rd
3/21 Staal for 3rd and 5th
12/20 Perry FA
10/20 Toffoli - FA, 4yr/$17M, having a great playoff but probably not sustainable
10/20 Anderson for Domi & 3rd
9/20 Edmundson for 5th rd, trade & sign, 4yr/$14M
7/19 Chairot FA, 3yr/$10.5M
10/18 Kulak for Taormina & Valiev
6/18 Armia, Mason & 4th for Bourque (think this was salary dump for Mason) [at 24, Armia had 23 ES points in 79 games]
9/18 Suzuki, Tatar & 2nd rd for Pacioretty
2/16 Danault & 2nd for Fleischman and Weise [at age 22, the #26 pick was a flop, with 5 ES points in 30 games for Chicago]
10/15 Byron, waivers

Danault should be a cautionary tale about giving up on young players too quickly, i.e. Patrick.

Danault is a completely different player than Patrick.

 

[Chinatown88]

KEK

 

[pit]

I hope we're not going to get the "if only we had Management like the Habs" riffs now.
Snuck into the playoffs with 86 points (prorated) in the weakest division.
They made a few decent moves:

4/21 Gus for 2022 7th rd
3/21 Staal for 3rd and 5th
12/20 Perry FA
10/20 Toffoli - FA, 4yr/$17M, having a great playoff but probably not sustainable
10/20 Anderson for Domi & 3rd
9/20 Edmundson for 5th rd, trade & sign, 4yr/$14M
7/19 Chairot FA, 3yr/$10.5M
10/18 Kulak for Taormina & Valiev
6/18 Armia, Mason & 4th for Bourque (think this was salary dump for Mason) [at 24, Armia had 23 ES points in 79 games]
9/18 Suzuki, Tatar & 2nd rd for Pacioretty
2/16 Danault & 2nd for Fleischman and Weise [at age 22, the #26 pick was a flop, with 5 ES points in 30 games for Chicago]
10/15 Byron, waivers

Danault should be a cautionary tale about giving up on young players too quickly, i.e. Patrick.

6/19 Drafted Cole Caulfield at 15.*




*This should not be construed as either a positive outlook on Bergevin or a slam on Cam York.

 

[deadhead]

KEK

Teams learned from the last ED.
Fletcher isn't going to pay to play this time.
Either he loses a big contract and gains flexibility, or he loses an easily replaceable player in NAK or Braun.

 

[Striiker]

KEK

We’re so screwed

 

[Chinatown88]

We’re so screwed

I think we should just play video games for the next five years and occasionally check in on the team.

 

[renberg]

Petry has gotten better with age, as someone said. He's been better in Montreal than he was in Edmonton, especially the last few years. Maybe playing for a more organized team has been beneficial. Or maybe he's just one of those somewhat rare guys who keeps improving into his 30s. Giordano was like that. Mike Knuble was like that.

A defenseman gets better as his career ages and he starts playing in a system that is sensibly organized. Imagine that. Just trade Myers and Sanheim and be done with them. Need vetz.

 

[Striiker]

I think we should just play video games for the next five years and occasionally check in on the team.

I want a motorcycle

It’ll either be really fun or kill me, which really seems like a win-win compared to following this team in the AV/Fletcher era.

 

[Chinatown88]

 

[deadhead]

6/19 Drafted Cole Caulfield at 15.*




*This should not be construed as either a positive outlook on Bergevin or a slam on Cam York.

Bergevin drafting:
2012: #3 Galchenyuk (6/18 traded for Domi, then Domi & 3rd for Anderson)
2013: #25 McCarron, #34 De La Rose, #36 Fucale, #55 Lehkonen,
2014: #26 Scherbak
2015: #26 Juulsen
2016: #9 Sergachev (6/17 traded with 2nd rd pick for Drouin)
2017: #25 Poehling
2018: #3 Kotkaniemi, #35 Ylolen, #38 Romanov
2019: #15 Caufield

 

[deadhead]

Hmm, expires at the end of AV's contract. Coincidence?

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I want a motorcycle

It’ll either be really fun or kill me, which really seems like a win-win compared to following this team in the AV/Fletcher era.

ACKCHYUALLY the Flyers were really fun for a while there last year but now it's going to kill you. So it's par for the course.