Value of: Minnesota Embraces the Rebuild: Fire Sale

[Digitalbooya]

Minnesota has been desperate for game-breaking talent since Gaborik left in 2009. The best way to do that is the draft. Wild fans, including myself, are dreaming of Lafreniere on the future top line with Boldy and Kaprizov. Doing a rebuild should net the Wild some top prospects the next 2-4 years. With that being said, here are the pieces that Minnesota has to offer to your team:

Eric Staal
Jason Zucker (m-NTC)
Kevin Fiala
Ryan Donato
Marcus Foligno
Ryan Hartman
Joel Eriksson Ek
Victor Rask
Devan Dubnyk

The "you'd really have to make it worth it for Minnesota to trade them" pile:
Matt Dumba (if you're not offering an under 27 1st line center don't even bother trying)
Jonas Brodin

The NMC (would need to waive) pile:
Mats Zuccarello
Mikko Koivu
Jared Spurgeon

The "won't happen cause of cap recapture" pile:
Suter
Parise

The "young players that Wild management and coaches seem to love" pile:
Luke Kunin
Jordan Greenway


Needs/Wants:
-Draft picks
-top prospects
-Under 25 NHL players, preferably center and right handed right wingers

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[TheImpatientPanther]

Minnesota has been desperate for game-breaking talent since Gaborik left in 2009. The best way to do that is the draft. Wild fans, including myself, are dreaming of Lafreniere on the future top line with Boldy and Kaprizov. Doing a rebuild should net the Wild some top prospects the next 2-4 years. With that being said, here are the pieces that Minnesota has to offer to your team:

Eric Staal
Jason Zucker (m-NTC)
Kevin Fiala
Ryan Donato
Marcus Foligno
Ryan Hartman
Joel Eriksson Ek
Victor Rask
Devan Dubnyk

The "you'd really have to make it worth it for Minnesota to trade them" pile:
Matt Dumba (if you're not offering an under 27 1st line center don't even bother trying)
Jonas Brodin

The NMC (would need to waive) pile:
Mats Zuccarello
Mikko Koivu
Jared Spurgeon

The "won't happen cause of cap recapture" pile:
Suter
Parise

The "young players that Wild management and coaches seem to love" pile:
Luke Kunin
Jordan Greenway


Needs/Wants:
-Draft picks
-top prospects
-Under 25 NHL players, preferably center and right handed right wingers

Brodin would start with a 1st, 2nd and a decent prospect/middle valued roster player?

FLA would be interested as Tallon has said a shutdown LD is his preferred upgrade.
Yandle has been horrible to start the year, Matheson is still in over his head some nights but does still show why he can become a #2/3 D.

Brodin could possibly be paired with Ekblad on top pairing to get Weegar back to his RD side.

 

[Gecklund]

Sharks should be after Zucker. Maybe something like Melker (cap)+Chekhovich/Chmelevski+2nd this year or first next year? The Sharks should also be interested in Dubnyk and even though that won’t happen what would that look like? We’d likely need to send Jones back (which helps you because he isn’t great). The package could look something like

Jones+Melker+Chekhovich+Chmelevski+pick for both? I really don’t know their values.

 

[57special]

As a Wild fan, I would rather keep Eriksson-Ek(C) over Greenway and Kunin. Bottom line is that I don't think that any of those three should be treated as anything precious.

Zucker is the one guy that is playing decently amongst our top 9 forwards(our best forwards have been Foligno and Hartman), and would have value for a team looking to compete now. I was thinking something like Backes(present C) + Studnicka(future C) for Zucker, but I don't think that BOS needs a LW, though his speed would certainly be welcome, and Zucker going there would make a Coyle signing a near certainty...they are best friends. Getting rid of Backes contract would be a huge win for BOS, a team that is still a Cup contender.

I would like to target Mittelstadt, Poehling, or Veleno, amongst many other young C's.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Marcus Foligno to the habs ? Unless he's slowed down from his time with the Sabres, his speed isn't terrible and Montreal could use a boost in size and net front presences.

Picks + 1 of Weise/Peca Both are on their last year of their deal. Both are already in the minors.

Habs can send Suzuki down and have a spot for Foligno.

 

[Homesick]

If the Oilers can somehow sneak into the playoffs I'd love to pick up E. Staal to play 3C or even switching C/LW with RNH on the 2nd

 

[Bazeek]

Not really on board with the idea of the thread, but just to clarify: doesn't Spurgeon not need to waive anything until his new contract kicks in in July? It's unlikely, but he should have all of this season and up until the draft to be traded without his say-so, right?

 

[Roof Daddy]

Eric Staal would interest me, but then a quick look at the numbers this year shows he’s -8 over the first 4 games. Has he been that awful??? Or just victimized by being on the ice at the wrong time? I know he’s got a reputation of having bouts of laziness, but he’s great when he’s on.

As an Oil fan I’d offer Puljujarvi + pick (2021 3rd that becomes a 2nd if we make the playoffs), but we’d have to add Gagner in to make the money work.

A 3rd line of Nygaard-Staal-Chiasson would be decent.

 

[57special]

Done on Staal, though it would be a dick move by MN, after he signed at a bargain rate to stay in MN. What is the return?

Staal was awful in the first couple of games, decent in the next couple. It's hard to say with him...even when he's good he doesn't look that good, just finds a way to get on the scoresheet. I have my doubts that he could be convinced to move to EDM, but he would be a good add for them.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Not really on board with the idea of the thread, but just to clarify: doesn't Spurgeon not need to waive anything until his new contract kicks in in July? It's unlikely, but he should have all of this season and up until the draft to be traded without his say-so, right?

His full NMC kicked in when he signed the extension:

Jared Spurgeon - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

CONTRACT NOTE: Spurgeon signed a 7 year contract extension on September 14, 2019 which also included a Full No Move Clause be added to the final year of his current deal (per @RussoHockey).

 

[Lenerdosy]

His full NMC kicked in when he signed the extension:

Jared Spurgeon - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

CONTRACT NOTE: Spurgeon signed a 7 year contract extension on September 14, 2019 which also included a Full No Move Clause be added to the final year of his current deal (per @RussoHockey).

Oh weird I didn't know you could modify old contracts like that. Thats pretty interesting.

 

[Bazeek]

His full NMC kicked in when he signed the extension:

Jared Spurgeon - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

CONTRACT NOTE: Spurgeon signed a 7 year contract extension on September 14, 2019 which also included a Full No Move Clause be added to the final year of his current deal (per @RussoHockey).

Yeah, I'll echo the "weird." Didn't know that was a thing.

 

[Mickey the mouse]

His full NMC kicked in when he signed the extension:

Jared Spurgeon - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

CONTRACT NOTE: Spurgeon signed a 7 year contract extension on September 14, 2019 which also included a Full No Move Clause be added to the final year of his current deal (per @RussoHockey).

Is that legal in CBA ?

Is it a handshake agreement ?

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Minnesota should be all in on Florida's 2020/2021 draft picks & SJ draft picks in 2021/2022/2020, its a gamble that could pay off big time for Minnesota depending how SJ/FLA does going forward.

Florida's 2020 1st should be the first target. That could easily be a top 10 pick in 2020 draft.
Then SJ's 2021 & 2022 1st round picks as i think those could turn into top 5 picks.

This is about gambling on 1st rounders that may end up being higher picks after being acquired.

 

[typicalsavage]

Is that legal in CBA ?

Is it a handshake agreement ?

Im pretty sure both Carey Price and Tyler Seguin had the same thing

 

[rt]

Would like Zucker in Arizona. Coyotes desperate for a trigger man on the PP. His 16ppg in his last 167gp rank him 48th in the NHL in that span. Arizona needs someone capable of burying PP chances. Kessel being the single credible threat isn’t working. We need someone who gives PKs reason to spread out. Zucker could do that, I think.

I’d be willing to offer Christian Fischer to start. I’d add a pick. Maybe as high as a 2nd.

 

[Mike Dukarm]

Eric Staal for 2nd 2020 + Jacob Olofsson or Cam Hillis or Cole Fonstad

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

Brodin would start with a 1st, 2nd and a decent prospect/middle valued roster player?

FLA would be interested as Tallon has said a shutdown LD is his preferred upgrade.
Yandle has been horrible to start the year, Matheson is still in over his head some nights but does still show why he can become a #2/3 D.

Brodin could possibly be paired with Ekblad on top pairing to get Weegar back to his RD side.

Honestly, Brodin would be great for you and I've thought this for awhile.

Do you have a decent prospect in mind? We need C prospects and high end scoring.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Brodin would start with a 1st, 2nd and a decent prospect/middle valued roster player?

FLA would be interested as Tallon has said a shutdown LD is his preferred upgrade.
Yandle has been horrible to start the year, Matheson is still in over his head some nights but does still show why he can become a #2/3 D.

Brodin could possibly be paired with Ekblad on top pairing to get Weegar back to his RD side.

This one really makes me pause and think. That 1st could be a top 15 pick, but also Florida is definitely good enough to make the playoffs. I'm not sure I'd take the gamble on trading Brodin for potentially a late 1st as the main piece.

If the Oilers can somehow sneak into the playoffs I'd love to pick up E. Staal to play 3C or even switching C/LW with RNH on the 2nd

Edmonton would be a good fit if they'd be willing to trade their 1st round pick (top 15 protected). Staal is cheap for this year and next, fitting Edmonton's needs. Minnesota gets a 1st for trading a veteran player.

Would like Zucker in Arizona. Coyotes desperate for a trigger man on the PP. His 16ppg in his last 167gp rank him 48th in the NHL in that span. Arizona needs someone capable of burying PP chances. Kessel being the single credible threat isn’t working. We need someone who gives PKs reason to spread out. Zucker could do that, I think.

I’d be willing to offer Christian Fischer to start. I’d add a pick. Maybe as high as a 2nd.

I'd pass on this. Zucker would definitely get more from around the league.

 

[Extra Texture]

What would be the ask for Donato?

I’m just surprised he wouldn’t be in the “overpay” bucket considering he’s 23 and was on a huge hot streak after thebtrade last year (sure a quarter season of a ~55pt scoring pace merits a bit more time to wait and see on him)

 

[Digitalbooya]

Honestly, Brodin would be great for you and I've thought this for awhile.

Do you have a decent prospect in mind? We need C prospects and high end scoring.

Borgstrom would be interesting in some sort of deal.

 

[Digitalbooya]

What would be the ask for Donato?

I’m just surprised he wouldn’t be in the “overpay” bucket considering he’s 23 and was on a huge hot streak after thebtrade last year (sure a quarter season of a ~55pt scoring pace merits a bit more time to wait and see on him)

An equivalent center or right winger.

The Wild have too many left shot wingers. Parise, Zuccarello, Zucker, Donato, Fiala, Greenway, and Foligno. Towards the beginning of the year, it was speculated that GMBG was trying to combine a couple of wingers for a top 6 center.

 

[Homesick]

Edmonton would be a good fit if they'd be willing to trade their 1st round pick (top 15 protected). Staal is cheap for this year and next, fitting Edmonton's needs. Minnesota gets a 1st for trading a veteran player.

I think there will be better players available for the Oilers 1st(the protection part won't be in play come February) Plus, that extra year is actually a negative as he would have to be protected in the expansion draft.

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

What would be the ask for Donato?

I’m just surprised he wouldn’t be in the “overpay” bucket considering he’s 23 and was on a huge hot streak after thebtrade last year (sure a quarter season of a ~55pt scoring pace merits a bit more time to wait and see on him)

He’s had a pretty terrible start and honestly I think the hot streak to end last season was a mirage.

He just can’t skate man.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Im pretty sure both Carey Price and Tyler Seguin had the same thing

Doughty too. I imagine the players/agents get that so that they can be absolutely sure the team/GM doesn't trade them before the new contract kicks in. The massive contracts inherently make it difficult to trade these guys, but you never know for sure. The players are signing the forever deals, buying their new houses, etc, they just want to be certain that the organization isn't going to take advantage of it if they can. It's smart. Never trust anyone.