Proposal: (MIN/TOR) Free Trade Agreement - Brown, Sparks, 2nd round pick...

[Dr Jan Itor]

I'm likely missing something but I'm not that enamoured by Coyle

He was on a pretty nice upward trajectory until last year when injuries set him back. I think he's a ~20 goal, ~50 point player and only makes a touch over $3M for the next 2 years. There's actually a lot to like.

 

[Slyfox]

Its not a great trade for MIN who has goalie depth and is trying to win. But imo Brown is more valuable than people give him credit for. He's going to be penalty killing more this season and going to take on a bigger role with the loss of some forwards. Hes capable of 20 goals and hes a RFA at the end of his contract while Coyle is an UFA.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Trash.

That'd be like trading Kapanen for Marcus Foligno, an AHL goalie and a late 2nd.

 

[Sota Popinski]

You're right the Wild don't need a back-up goalie. They need a starting goalie. Dubnyk is 32 now and doesn't seem to be aging well. He hasn't won a playoff series in 3 years. His SV% is on the decline too. Hammond won't be a proper replacement. Stalock is ok, but he is not Dubnyk's understudy. Sparks is your guy.

Sparks is garbage.

 

[ACC1224]

Sparks is garbage.

Based on all your views of Toronto Marlie games?

 

[Filthy Dangles]

What am I missing regarding some of these responses about Sparks. Is he really anything more than a callup/AHL starter...

 

[Sota Popinski]

Based on all your views of Toronto Marlie games?

Based on him being a 7th round pick, based on him being 25 and having played 17 games in the NHL, based on him having a SV% under .900 in those games, based on him having a .915 SV% in the AHL last year, based on him not being able to beat out Curtis McElhinney for the Leafs backup job.

 

[Jordan Belfort]

I would do Hyman and a third for Coyle

 

[ChaoticOrange]

How to create Leaf's proposal

Choose 3 of:

Brown, Kapanen, Johnsson, Leivo, Carrick, Pickard, Sparks, Leivo, Pick


Choose 1 of :

Single piece of more value.

This is maybe the most accurate post I’ve ever seen on this site. Follow it up with four pages of Leafs fans arguing about Kapanen’s value and shoehorning Bracco and mediocre picks in instead and you’d have absolutely nailed it.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I would do Hyman and a third for Coyle

Of course you would.

 

[Jordan Belfort]

Of course you would.

Is that not fair to you? Hyman has more points than Coyle this year.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

HFBoarders would be ever so lucky if Kapanen and Johnsson were such easy trade-fodder.

Charlie Coyle doesn't get it done

Kasperi Kapanen @22 according to HF with 10 points in 55 games : OMG future top sixer surefire scoring winger so much potential so good hnnnnggg

Jesse Puljujarvi @19 according to HF with 20 points in 60 games: Bust! Oilers Yakupoving him! Can’t develop players terrible drafting we’ll take him off your hands for a 2nd in 2093!

Ahhhh. There’s something comforting in the never ending homerism.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Is that not fair to you? Hyman has more points than Coyle this year.

Coyle isn’t glued to Matthews like Hyman is and Coyle plays a more important position. If all that matters is points last season without taking anything else into context can I interest you in Ty Rattie for Kapanen? Rattie was on pace for 52 points, he must have more value than either Coyle or Hyman.

 

[nickschultzfan]

Why exactly are the Wild selling low on Coyle after a season where the majority of the season he was hampered by either leg or wrist injuries? No reason for the Wild to do this.

 

[Bruce Granville]

The OP nails it almost, but still needs some tweaking.

Take Nylander instead of Coyle and Foligno and O‘Reilly instead of the trash.

 

[HoweHullOrr]

It's a very loud minority of Leafs fans doing this.

A minority that is large in numbers unfortunately.

 

[ACC1224]

Based on him being a 7th round pick, based on him being 25 and having played 17 games in the NHL, based on him having a SV% under .900 in those games, based on him having a .915 SV% in the AHL last year, based on him not being able to beat out Curtis McElhinney for the Leafs backup job.

that's awesome

 

[57special]

I'm likely missing something but I'm not that enamoured by Coyle

heh?

 

[howkie]

You're right the Wild don't need a back-up goalie. They need a starting goalie. Dubnyk is 32 now and doesn't seem to be aging well. He hasn't won a playoff series in 3 years. His SV% is on the decline too. Hammond won't be a proper replacement. Stalock is ok, but he is not Dubnyk's understudy. Sparks is your guy.

I will eat a 200 gram of Marabou mjölkchoklad if Sparks become a legit nr 1 in NHL, if he does not, I eat it anyway

I wounder, Leafs has fallen out of the playoff twice in the first round, and Andersen has looked kinda shaky, so is it not better to keep him, so he can lead you pass round 1, or will Tavares be your goalie?

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Is that not fair to you? Hyman has more points than Coyle this year.

And he had to play 16 more games to do it. What about the year prior when Coyle and Hyman both played full seasons?

 

[Incetardis]

Yeesh... This one got met with some serious vitriol. Quantity vs quality yes but the value isn't that far off. Sparks was by far the best goalie in the AHL last year and has a legitimate chance at becoming an NHL goalie, Brown is a young solid 2way player on a team friendly contract, and a 2nd is what it is. I get minny doesn't do it, unless it's a cap thing but if he was available that would be a decent return

 

[Incetardis]

I will eat a 200 gram of Marabou mjölkchoklad if Sparks become a legit nr 1 in NHL, if he does not, I eat it anyway

I wounder, Leafs has fallen out of the playoff twice in the first round, and Andersen has looked kinda shaky, so is it not better to keep him, so he can lead you pass round 1, or will Tavares be your goalie?

And this is one hell of a troll job lol

 

[57special]

Mods, please shut this down.

 

[Bazeek]

Yeesh... This one got met with some serious vitriol. Quantity vs quality yes but the value isn't that far off. Sparks was by far the best goalie in the AHL last year and has a legitimate chance at becoming an NHL goalie, Brown is a young solid 2way player on a team friendly contract, and a 2nd is what it is. I get minny doesn't do it, unless it's a cap thing but if he was available that would be a decent return

I think you'd have to take a very optimistic view of Brown and a very pessimistic view of Coyle to consider this a good return.

Sparks, whatever his accomplishments, is still a 25 year old goalie with effectively no track record in the NHL. Kahkonen's 4 years younger and has put up great numbers in Finland, but I wouldn't expect him to carry any trade value right now. Even established goalies are too mercurial to feel great about trading for them.