No doubt that Yeo has improved greatly as a coach, but I would still like to see the Wild try a coach who is more offensive minded. We have the talent now where we can utilize the offensive players. I just want to see one year of fast paced, offensive hockey.
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As long as he doesn't keep favoring people that get paid, and stops the PP ground and pound, I don't give a ****. Hes an idiot, will continue to do it, and keep being Koivu's *****.
These statements are absurd. Yeo's system is built to play quick and have puck support moving north. Now that he has the players to play it, it works. You miss the last 20 games? Or how we put pressure on fast teams such as Colorado and Chicago? Yeo can't go out there and put the puck in the back of net for the guys. Chances were there every game to bury.
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Adam Oates crashed and burned as a head coach. Trotz and likely Bylsma are going to be available. Who is going to hire Oates?
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If they can play at even strength the way they have been at times this season but completely change the special teams (more aggressive for both), I'm in on Yeo.
He also showed for the first time he was willing to scratch a veteran player or send one to the fourth line, so if he can do that with more big money guys in the future, as well as adapt his lines on the fly, that would be a huge plus.
He also showed for the first time he was willing to scratch a veteran player or send one to the fourth line, so if he can do that with more big money guys in the future, as well as adapt his lines on the fly, that would be a huge plus.
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It's not even that they NEED a completely different coach and identity to fix the PP.
To me, it's a simple change. You have to put your players in a position that plays to their strengths and allows room for creativity. When I watched this PP, it was set up predictably, with players playing too rigidly within where they were designed to be (often times not in a natural spot for them), killing far too much time off of their odd man opportunity because they weren't being creative enough and ended up waiting for an opportunity instead of making one happen. This in turn leaned heavily on one unit and left the other only about 20 seconds, at best, in which to work.
Again, that shouldn't exactly be on who is involved, top to bottom, on the PP; it's a matter of recognizing that something is amiss and not being willing to make an adjustment.
To me, it's a simple change. You have to put your players in a position that plays to their strengths and allows room for creativity. When I watched this PP, it was set up predictably, with players playing too rigidly within where they were designed to be (often times not in a natural spot for them), killing far too much time off of their odd man opportunity because they weren't being creative enough and ended up waiting for an opportunity instead of making one happen. This in turn leaned heavily on one unit and left the other only about 20 seconds, at best, in which to work.
Again, that shouldn't exactly be on who is involved, top to bottom, on the PP; it's a matter of recognizing that something is amiss and not being willing to make an adjustment.
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Ok, well once again we were bottom 5 in the league for goals scored. I'm not saying his system doesn't work. I just feel like he has a play not to lose mentality rather than a play to win, and in MY opinion is a defense first kind of coach. I would like to see an offense first, fast pace team. Again, it's just my opinion.
I just want Yeo to have faith in youngsters hat might need a kick start on the PP and also realise that if Koivu and Suter don't have it its OK to replace them.
Koivu was tied for 20th in PPA. Playing in 10-15 less games and also looking brutal his first few back form injury. Consistant; check. Every game consistant; no
Coyle only had 3 PPP. Coyle was not ready or in the wrong position. With 2.14 of PP TOI
Nino with 6 points but had only 1.24 PP TOI to work with.
More time less results. Hmmm? Not the right direction.
Koivu was tied for 20th in PPA. Playing in 10-15 less games and also looking brutal his first few back form injury. Consistant; check. Every game consistant; no
Coyle only had 3 PPP. Coyle was not ready or in the wrong position. With 2.14 of PP TOI
Nino with 6 points but had only 1.24 PP TOI to work with.
More time less results. Hmmm? Not the right direction.
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Those types of teams usually don't win anymore, especially in the West. Look at the teams in the Conference Finals, ALL of them play a sound defensive game...yes, even Chicago.
It's not the system preventing the Wild from scoring more goals, it's the player's lack of finish.
Yup. Can't give up on defense first to try and win anything anymore. Not only looking at the teams, but look at the goalies that are playing as well. Think the only one who was even the running for a Vezina lately has been Quick (who has played horribly IMO). But they have great bluelines that help make the job that much easier and they just need to make their standard stops and a few gamechangers. Not stand on their heads like Harding was doing at the start of the season.
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I honestly think Suter running the point might be the biggest problem on our top PP unit and I'm as big of a Suter fan as anyone. He's a decent passer and he usually does a good job of holding the line but his shot is weak and he has very little creativity. I could probably count the number of slap shots he took this year on one hand; he typically just throws wristers into traffic hoping for a deflection.
The problem is we have no one on our team who has that skill set, except maybe Spurgeon. I could see Dumba being that guy but he's a few years away yet.
The problem is we have no one on our team who has that skill set, except maybe Spurgeon. I could see Dumba being that guy but he's a few years away yet.
Agreed. Spurgeon should be the #1 PP Dman in my eyes. Great shot, pass, speed, and he did lightyears better keeping it in the zone
I would be genuinely surprised if that's the case. That article about how he wrecked Washington is the most detailed breakdown of a coaches incompetence I've ever seen. I think there's a more than decent chance he finds work as an assistant somewhere and after seeing how Yeo is pulling it together everywhere BUT special teams I would love to see him brought on here, but it will be a few more years in the assistant coaching ranks before he gets another head coaching job I think.
Yep. all you have to do to realize Chicago was playing defensively sound was look at how THEY were the team that made that series boring at times.
Agreed. He's gotten better at keeping it in the zone over the years. Remember a few years ago he had a square on Wild misery bingo labeled "Puck hops over Spurgeon's stick and out of the zone on the PP" or something like that.
He's got a real boomer of a shot. You wouldn't think it by his size but god damn the puts a lot of mustard on it. And he's got a real mature sense of patience as exhibited by the tying goal he scored in the dying minutes of regulation in game 7 vs the Avs this year. Patience of a kindergarten teacher they called it on TV.
I wonder what is Joni Pitkänen's situation? If he's healthy he would be nice D to add. Can log lots of ice time and is good on PP.
Sami Vatanen would be great addition through trade, but he's too small. I think he's better than Jared.
I think it's hilarious that even JR could see how much more dynamic the Wild PP was with Granlund on the ice, yet somehow he's always the first guy taken off the top PP unit if it doesn't score right away.
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I personally think Bylsma is a terrible coach. Now, I didn't watch Oates coach enough to pass a judgment on him, but I wouldn't be shocked in Bylsma is only picked up by a bottom-feeder team.
Oates is a worse head coach than Bylsma. However I just can't see anything Bylsma would add as an assistant anywhere while Oates is obviously a special teams specialist. I say give Yeo his new deal and then get Oates on the horn. If he says he only wants to head coach, laugh at him and call him back in June.
surprised we havent seen an extension yet. dont think it means anything i would guess it happens this week
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