Lobstertainment
Oh no, my brains.
I think Pronger is St.Louis's Rep, I'm not sure but I'll check that topic about him again.
Also I <3 Commodore now more then ever.
Also I <3 Commodore now more then ever.
nah, I think they keep that seperate, the executive remains the same, but team reps changeSotnos said:Wouldn't it be Linden, NHLPA President?
triggrman said:Every player in the NHL should be happy to be playing a kids game making at minumal 10x the average salary of most work class people.
If that is the case, then why shouldn't the players take an assigned percentage of the revenues.shakes said:How about when people pay 100s of dollars to your boss to watch you work, you use the "working class people" analogy. Contrary to popular belief, the work that they do is not "average" so they shouldn't be compared to jobs that you and I hold.
They also have the oportunnity to retire in their late-30s- early 40's and being an NHler does open doors to other careers.Also why should they just be "happy"? They have intensely trained all their lives and are the best of the best at what they do. They have worked harder to get to where they are than "most working class people" did to get where they are.
If you're talking about getting an education, I'd dispute that. Book learnin' comes easy to some, but I'd say for the average person it takes a bit of work, and starting from a young age. Saying they deserve it because they've trained so hard doesn't wash with me.shakes said:They have worked harder to get to where they are than "most working class people" did to get where they are.
forbesy said:I think the Canucks is Markus Naslund
for some reason I think the Ducks is Keith Carney, but I'm not sure
The recent issue of the Hockey News that detailed what each player was doing said a lot of the reps, I'll dig it out when I get home
Sotnos said:Seems like the lower-paid guys are figuring out that their union isn't looking out for their interests.
Does anyone know where you can find a list of ALL the NHLPA team reps? I know who the executive committee is and who the rep is for a few teams, but I can't find a list of all of them. Just curious.
MrMackey said:If you're talking about getting an education, I'd dispute that. Book learnin' comes easy to some, but I'd say for the average person it takes a bit of work, and starting from a young age. Saying they deserve it because they've trained so hard doesn't wash with me.
The point about the paying audience is fair, I think (share the wealth). But if the boss is being paid $100s to see you work, does it make sense for your boss to pay you $1,000s? If you're going to demand a stake, expect something to be put in place to allow the boss (who's promoting you) to make a bit of $$ too.
shakes said:How about when people pay 100s of dollars to your boss to watch you work, you use the "working class people" analogy. Contrary to popular belief, the work that they do is not "average" so they shouldn't be compared to jobs that you and I hold.
Also why should they just be "happy"? They have intensely trained all their lives and are the best of the best at what they do. They have worked harder to get to where they are than "most working class people" did to get where they are.
Sotnos said:Thanks John! It might be easier for us to piece it together than to find an actual list.
Tampa's is Tim Taylor. On his last contract, he voluntarily took a 50% paycut for two years and signed without talking to his agent, I'm sure the union LOVES that in their Reps.
Bicycle Repairman said:Wait a minute...
Isn't Mike Commodore a bad guy for taking the food off the table of some poor, deserving Lowell Lock Monster?
jin said:I know you're kidding but just to clear this up, I believe he got assigned to the team and is thus just fulfilling the terms of his contract. If that makes him a *******, then Alexi Yashin must be a saint.
Bicycle Repairman said:Nope. He's on a one way NHL contract. The Lowell thing is just a time-occupier. A separate deal than the one with the Flames.
He's a Job Stealer! A JOB STEALER I tell you! LOL.
Sotnos said:Seems like the lower-paid guys are figuring out that their union isn't looking out for their interests.
Does anyone know where you can find a list of ALL the NHLPA team reps? I know who the executive committee is and who the rep is for a few teams, but I can't find a list of all of them. Just curious.
Bicycle Repairman said:Wait a minute...
Isn't Mike Commodore a bad guy for taking the food off the table of some poor, deserving Lowell Lock Monster?
It's just not good for anybody. I'm down here in Lowell, and because I'm down here some other defenceman that would have been here, isn't going to be here."
shakes said:My beef isn't with revenue sharing, salary cap, luxury tax or whatever you want to call it, mine is with people who make absurd claims that "every player in the NHL should be happy to be playing a kids game making at minumal 10x the average salary of most work class people" and comments like this. This marginalizes the work and the effort that they do. To compare what it took for player to get to such an elite level to someone who works at GM, drives a cab or works in a big glass building in the city is quite frankly.. stupid. If it was so easy to "play a kids game" for a living then everyone would be doing it. This is why they make millions.
I blame both parties in this and quite frankly if they cancel this season they will have canceled my interest in this sport.
CloudNine said:It is a GAME. It doesn't matter how hard it was for the players to get there. The bottom line is that it is a game and NO ONE should be payed millions to play a friggen game. My uncle busts his ass with his carpentry business (which he started when he was really young and it took quite a while for it to gain popularity for my uncle's outstanding work)- working from 9 AM to 8 PM on most days and just making over 100K a year. He works way harder than the average NHL player who makes 8 to 10 times more money than he does.
So don't say that someone who plays a GAME deserves 10 times more money than someone who works just as hard and who went through quite the struggle to get where he is now.
Yup, but at least he has the balls to tell it like it is. If someone is playing in the minors or in Europe, at least have the guts to say " I dont mind playing under a cap", because obviously they dont mind.Bicycle Repairman said:Wait a minute...
Isn't Mike Commodore a bad guy for taking the food off the table of some poor, deserving Lowell Lock Monster?
I dont think that is the issue. Ya, its hard to get to where they got. I've worked hard to get to where I am. We can find millions that have storys of sacrificies that have been made to make a living.shakes said:This marginalizes the work and the effort that they do. To compare what it took for player to get to such an elite level to someone who works at GM, drives a cab or works in a big glass building in the city is quite frankly.. stupid. If it was so easy to "play a kids game" for a living then everyone would be doing it. This is why they make millions.
transplant99 said:Never mind he had no option other than reporting when his emplyoer optioned him there.