Post-Game Talk: Microfractured Sens lovin' that microphone (Habs win 3-2, lead series 2-0)

[boris4c]

The first couple of minutes of this video. Brutal.

 

[Skip Bayless]

"Did someone just micro-fart?"

 

[Cole Caulifield]

Wait, I'm confused about something. I noticed her nose was smashed, that had nothing to do with the incident? I mention this fact because it is the single most alarming element of the reportage.

I still think everything that transpired fits the category of violence.

Nothing is said about it in the article. They make a huge deal out of an older man hitting her on the leg with a towel though. So ... if someone had actually smashed her nose.. you have to believe it would have been said.

 

[jacks*]

Here's a Sens fan opinion on Subban,s game play last night.

[ All Subban did last game was literally score a goal. It was a big goal and a great goal mind you but that's the only time he was noticeable. If I'm giving him full credit he did make a big hit in the corner once as well.

Aside from that, barely heard or seen him. ]

I really question what game he was watching or what kind of glue this guy was sniffing.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Here's a Sens fan opinion on Subban,s game play last night.

[ All Subban did last game was literally score a goal. It was a big goal and a great goal mind you but that's the only time he was noticeable. If I'm giving him full credit he did make a big hit in the corner once as well.

Aside from that, barely heard or seen him. ]

I really question what game he was watching or what kind of glue this guy was sniffing.

It's hard to evaluate NHL games when you've been watching the Super NHL all year.

 

[vfactor]

I don't think you're being fair with Shanahan. All the things you mentioned for Bergevin you could say for Shanahan.
He was a joker, played over 1500 games, awesome leader on the ice, hall of famer, won Gold at the Olympics, World Championships, Canada Cup, and Stanley Cup, made the All-Star team 8 times and even was named Captain of it once, the only player in the history of the NHL to have over 600 goals and 2000pim.
What he doesn't have is experience of player personnel or various other positions within an organization, but he wasn't hired for that. He was hired to be the president. He was in charge of player safety so dealt with every team.

I think he's doing a good job so far. He came in last April. Gave himself a year to evaluate his current staff, which is a smart decision. He was clearly dissatisfied with their performance so he started making changes.
They moved guys and grabbed picks. Moving Clarkson was a terrific decision.
He warned the fans that it will be a slow rebuild and that patience is in order, like Bergevin had done.

As I said, I think he's handled the situation quite well. Now it'll be interesting to see who he hires going forward and which players get moved.

He gave himself a year to come to the conclusion of whoever knows hockey or simply read HFboards knew for a decade already.

Let me tell you. I can almost bet money that Shanahan wanted to Leafs to make the playoffs last year, the fire of Carlyle was to save that chance. The thing is, he came in an organization with players that you don't have to be an insider to know that the team is not build correctly. There are plenty of proofs, examples, histories, precedents. Just watch the game. Shanahan took a year to come to a conclusion that if you don't have money, the true solution is to find a job.

He gave himself a year basically see if magical stuffs can happen. He knows that he will be Toronto Mayor if Leafs made the playoffs and he will be God if Leafs go pass two rounds. In this NHL, funny things have happened. The chance of Leafs got a magical run will always be there. However, as a leader, a visionnaire, if you don't see that this team need to be tear down and rebuild and using that year to actually do that, you simply wasted one year. The year 0 of the Leafs could have been much earlier. Instead, he watched the same horror movie every single knowledgeable hockey fan can tell the script in advance and then come to the conclusion that...well...it's really that bad. ********. This is the most dominant character from an opportunist. Use all the possible leverages for personal interest instead of the well being of the organization.

Look how he came into the Leafs mess. He didn't use his leadership to clear up that mess. Instead, he kept it that way and made it worst. He hire his own people to let everybody know that he's the boss, the ex boss Nonnis was like his puppet. Not even present when he hired the vice GM, belittle Nonnis. He passed the message of who being the true boss instead of building a management team. Shannahan was full of himself.

Well it's exactly what he wanted. Looks how Leafs fans, desperate for hero, all fall into his game. Every freaking bad thing was Nonnis. It was all on Nonnis and everything remotely positive was Shannahan team. This is what I hated the most on management people. It's a lot more common than you think.

He had two out of jail cards and he milked them til the end. He passed incoherent message regarding Nonnis role, future. Nonnis himself probably thought he still got a job until the last moment.

He brought in a data specialist, a out of the box youngster which gave him a favorable perception from Leafs fans, it's a sign of change and God knows that Leafs fans want change. The hire is not questionable himself but he never presented anything related to that hiring which proved that the new blood brought in something valuable to the organization. Smoke and mirror.

He basically wasted one year on the excuse of evaluation.He came to the only possible conclusion. He didn't find anything, he didn't realize anything, he didn't do jack during the year. He didn't progress the Leafs as a team or organization during that year. I am a keyboard warrior and I had that conclusion a year ago without any analytical data.

And I always loved that when at one point, in front of a city, desperate of common sense, lack of hope, hungry for hero, anything to cheer for, the hero will always come and say something which made the whole crowd go "yessssssssssss, yahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, finallyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy"

You know what he said. He said well, we came to the conclusion that the problem has deep root. He's the new smartest mind in the hockey world.

When you made one playoffs the last how many years on a shortened season, when you had the worst collapses on previous years with all the sign of a weak character team, when all the regular stats showed and proved that your team sucked and will suck because the stats suck, when your next possible regular NHL is Nylander and when you still don't know if your goalie should be Reimer or Bernier. When your previous picks named Tyler frigging Biggs and Gauthier. Your problem sure has deep root, I need one minute to tell you that.

If the Oilers hire me, I will not need one year of evaluation, I promise. I just don't have Mr Katz phone number.

When you basically told everyone that Phaneuf and Phil are scraps and they are gone but you still didn't traded them during that whole year of evaluation and they are still around, you surely not winning any awards for great management.

It's really astounding that people don't see through a lot of this and still behold the new God.

Oh yes. Last but not least, he will basically hire a new puppet. A GM but not in a traditional sense. He will be the Boss, every big decision will pass through him.

This is utter ******** on every level and you see that a lot in today management. Someone who simply thought that they are smarter than the experts themselves to make the right decision because he's simply special base on nothing or pass experienced not directly connected to the field. He doesn't have any of the other capabilities, experiences, qualification but he will have a better decision base on information provided by the experts. You want to make the decision without paying the labor of knowledge.

That's why I said MB has something a lot of ex players don't. He earned everything, he showed his competent through action not from a collection of past individual achievements who have little value to a management, leader position.

Tell me one thing Shanahan did was a sign of a true leadership. I just listed everything he did on the opposite sphere.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Here's a Sens fan opinion on Subban,s game play last night.

[ All Subban did last game was literally score a goal. It was a big goal and a great goal mind you but that's the only time he was noticeable. If I'm giving him full credit he did make a big hit in the corner once as well.

Aside from that, barely heard or seen him. ]

I really question what game he was watching or what kind of glue this guy was sniffing.

That fan probably complains about Karlsson's game when he's playing solid defense and not ending with 3 points and 15 turnovers that cost 3 goals.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

I actually see the opposite.

I think the Sens will get gradually worst and the pressure of playing at home wont help things.

Well, I don't expect them to go nuts all game long. I'm talking about a hot 5 minutes at the start before things get settled and we start to take over like we have in both games this series. It always happens. They'll be energized in front of their home crowd, but it won't last long if we weather that. And if we can catch one of their D pinching and create an opportunity off that, even better. I expect their young D to be looking to do a bit too much early on in the game.

 

[LaP]

It's hard to evaluate NHL games when you've been watching the Super NHL all year.

yeah you're right probably even harder when you must evaluate micro-teams.

 

[Richiebottles]

Well, I don't expect them to go nuts all game long. I'm talking about a hot 5 minutes at the start before things get settled and we start to take over like we have in both games this series. It always happens. They'll be energized in front of their home crowd, but it won't last long if we weather that. And if we can catch one of their D pinching and create an opportunity off that, even better. I expect their young D to be looking to do a bit too much early on in the game.

Their D is terrible.

I think I might be the only one to realize it.

 

[Habs]

I don't know. Something about this team, guys. I have a really good feeling. I love what I'm seeing right now.

They have won 2 games, and not exactly decisively. You aren't watching dominance by any means. You guys are making it sound like we've dominated this series, which we haven't, not at all.

 

[hockeyfan2k11]

Their D is terrible.

I think I might be the only one to realize it.

No, their D is bad. They really remind me of Tampa last year.

 

[Cole Caulifield]

Their D is terrible.

I think I might be the only one to realize it.

I'm pretty sure everyone knows that. They have one good pairing with Methot-Karlsson.

 

[MasterD]

A microfracture is a bone bruise, and confirmed by reputable doctors.

Doesn't mean it doesn't hurt a lot.

Tough to compare injuries, especially when you don't have knowledge in health care. For example, most people would think a completely torn ligament would hurt more than partially torn, but complete tear basically doesn't hurt after the incident.

Im an ER nurse, I've seen stuff you wouldn't believe. I've seen elderlies walk on fractured hips, and young people unable to walk on a simple intramuscular hematoma.

 

[Church]

My 2 cents on the incident with the Sens fan at Bell Center.

1- It doesn't represent the majority of Habs fans. just like when there's a wrecking crew pillaging and burning down ste-catherine after a playoff game. They point them as ''Habs fan'' when really they are just ********.
2- Media sensationalism
3- Sorry for what happened to them, but things like this happen all the time in Montreal, Boston, Vancouver.. for hockey , yet, just a fraction of what happens daily in soccer stadium of deep fanatic clubs around the world.

 

[Habsawce]

The first couple of minutes of this video. Brutal.

Why would yo do this to yourself? Cringe worthy af.

 

[GREMLIN]

Why would yo do this to yourself? Cringe worthy af.

I feel bad for the guy

 

[Account Terminated]

The first couple of minutes of this video. Brutal.

Why would anyone make themselves look like a complete ass for under 30 views a video? I mean, if you're getting 50k-100k a pop, like Steve Dangle does, than have at it. Then again, he has his following because he can actually talk in front of a camera and has an ounce of charisma.

 

[Hackett]

Anyone else notice the Habs' attempt a different zone entry on the PP last night? Markov carried it up to center a few times and then dropped it back to PK in full flight (I think to DD once too) as opposed to them hammering it off the boards. Other teams have been doing this for a few years now, so it's nice to finally see the coaching staff try something different.

I did notice that. I've seen the habs try that some time ago, but the last guy would turn the puck over and give breakaways.

Then they seemed to go away from it for a really long time until these playoffs.

PP looks good so far. Just gotta finish.

 

[Joannie9]

My 2 cents on the incident with the Sens fan at Bell Center.

1- It doesn't represent the majority of Habs fans. just like when there's a wrecking crew pillaging and burning down ste-catherine after a playoff game. They point them as ''Habs fan'' when really they are just ********.
2- Media sensationalism
3- Sorry for what happened to them, but things like this happen all the time in Montreal, Boston, Vancouver.. for hockey , yet, just a fraction of what happens daily in soccer stadium of deep fanatic clubs around the world.

Are we even sure this happened ?
I mean it's a good way to get some attention and get back at the habs.
And even if it did happen, I don't know how people could conclude that habs fans are *******s. It's like saying all men are rapist because some girl got *****...

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Anyone else notice the Habs' attempt a different zone entry on the PP last night? Markov carried it up to center a few times and then dropped it back to PK in full flight (I think to DD once too) as opposed to them hammering it off the boards. Other teams have been doing this for a few years now, so it's nice to finally see the coaching staff try something different.

Yes, they're finally finding ways to enter the zone with speed. They're also shooting more and moving the puck into the slot area more often. There's been some real puck battles down low on the PP which has been nice to see. It's opening up the points for Marky and Subban too.

The PP has been impressive against Ottawa. I'll take a goal a game since we're so strong 5-on-5.

 

[Habsawce]

A fan wearing the opposing team's jersey was called names. What a development we have here. Seriously, get over it. Christ. A Montreal fan was pissed on at a Bruins game and another was put in the hospital and it got less press than this.

Bryan Murray is rubbing off on his fans now.

 

[jacks*]

Why would yo do this to yourself? Cringe worthy af.

What is it with Sen fans.They must be the whiniest bunch of Hens that i have ever seen.

 

[vinvin621]

I am going to game 3 tomorrow in Ottawa, does anybody here went before ? How's traffic ? Is it better to park downtown and head there by bus or by car is still fine ?

 

[Habsawce]

I am going to game 3 tomorrow in Ottawa, does anybody here went before ? How's traffic ? Is it better to park downtown and head there by bus or by car is still fine ?

LOL. It's better to take the bus when you're leaving. Getting there isn't too bad, but leaving is a god damn nightmare. The thing about the bus though, is you're jammed in there like sardines although there should be a healthy amount of Habs fans.

Honestly, it's a horrible location. Just dreadful. If you drive your car and park in the lot, you're going to be at least 2 hours getting to Ottawa afterwards. Not quite sure how long the bus will take you.