Metro Seattle: NHL, NBA and Arena - Part VII

[No Fun Shogun]

*Sigh*

I just want the NBA back in Seattle and the NHL to finally get here

Is that too much to ask?

Apparently.

 

[Fugu]

The NBA created a new revenue-sharing scheme last season in which wealthier franchises direct more of their profits to the struggling franchises. The magazine said the Kings, who had the league's worst attendance in the just-concluded regular season, would expect to collect about $18 million a year.
The Bee's source couldn't confirm that number. About a year and a half ago, in a letter to the team's current owners the Maloofs, the NBA calculated that figure at about $15 million.
The new revenue sharing formula goes beyond the giant pool of national television money, which is divided up among the teams. The Kings' share of the TV money tops $30 million a year.

This, this.....

Can the league negotiate separately from the owner of a franchise in such a way to influence the value of the franchise, the modus operandi basically being to pay the league off for an approval?

This takes money directly out of the Maloofs pockets and puts it into the the rich teams' pockets.

Something is rotten in the NBA.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/05/06/5398439/sacramento-kings-dallas-ranadive.html#storylink=cpy​

 

[Morgoth Bauglir]

This, this.....

Can the league negotiate separately from the owner of a franchise in such a way to influence the value of the franchise, the modus operandi basically being to pay the league off for an approval?

This takes money directly out of the Maloofs pockets and puts it into the the rich teams' pockets.

Something is rotten in the NBA.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/05/06/5398439/sacramento-kings-dallas-ranadive.html#storylink=cpy​

Something very rotten indeed.....

 

[EC09]

If they turn down the revenue sharing, that's an issue with the NBAPA. So you'll have a lawsuit from Hansen, and then the Player's Association.

 

[Fugu]

If they turn down the revenue sharing, that's an issue with the NBAPA. So you'll have a lawsuit from Hansen, and then the Player's Association.

I'm not sure, to be honest. The Players will get 50% of all BRR. The teams have to spend within a certain range. It will hurt the Kings' competitiveness if they are spending the lowest minimum possible because the owners have to be careful with spending.

 

[superdeluxe]

Of course they can pledge that they won't take revenue sharing money. Every small market team takes the revenue sharing dollars. But in a couple of years, it wouldn't matter anyways.

 

[Stonewall]

That is officially a joke.

It's bad for the NBA too. From now on if you're not in a big market and you really want to keep your team, giving up revenue sharing is the solution?

 

[Shaz]

I think the NFL has a great model on revenue sharing, NBA could use something similar

Too bad Stern is too stubborn and greedy to give a damn about the smaller teams in the overall scheme of things

 

[maruk14]

This is lining up to be the mother of all anti-trust suits brought against a major sports league in the US.

 

[superdeluxe]

That is officially a joke.

It's bad for the NBA too. From now on if you're not in a big market and you really want to keep your team, giving up revenue sharing is the solution?

Yeah..maybe for the tax payers, but good for the fans of the kings to keep them in Sacramento

 

[superdeluxe]

This is lining up to be the mother of all anti-trust suits brought against a major sports league in the US.

I don't want to go down this road. Give us an expansion team in 3 years and everyone freaking wins.

No one wants Anti-Trust lawsuits.

 

[ramstoria]

Yeah..maybe for the tax payers, but good for the fans of the kings to keep them in Sacramento

meh. maybe on the arena we get a little hosed (virtually every city does), but that has nothing to do with the revenue sharing. If Vivek wants to spend the extra money, let him.

 

[gstommylee]

I don't want to go down this road. Give us an expansion team in 3 years and everyone freaking wins.

No one wants Anti-Trust lawsuits.

NBA doesn't want to have to defend their illegal activates in the courts there will be a settlement.

 

[maruk14]

I don't want to go down this road. Give us an expansion team in 3 years and everyone freaking wins.

No one wants Anti-Trust lawsuits.

I am of the opinion you don't get to the point of the NBA offering expansion unless we start throwing some weight around and give them no other choice. Stern has already proven over and over again he will re-write the rules to suit his agenda and Silver just seems to be his mini-me (even if he is quite a bit taller).

 

[snovalleyhockeyfan]

I am of the opinion you don't get to the point of the NBA offering expansion unless we start throwing some weight around and give them no other choice. Stern has already proven over and over again he will re-write the rules to suit his agenda and Silver just seems to be his mini-me (even if he is quite a bit taller).

Agreed.

 

[DelpoRafaKilla]

I am of the opinion you don't get to the point of the NBA offering expansion unless we start throwing some weight around and give them no other choice. Stern has already proven over and over again he will re-write the rules to suit his agenda and Silver just seems to be his mini-me (even if he is quite a bit taller).

I agree as well. I want them to wield their anti trust hammer on them. Want to see Sterns arrogant ass suffer and Prokhauser-Rose taken to school. What ever happened to truth, justice and the American Way?

 

[Bullwine85]

*Sigh*

I just want the NBA back in Seattle and the NHL to finally get here

Is that too much to ask?

If only there was a situation where we'd give you the Bucks, and the NHL comes to both Seattle and the state of Wisconsin, we'd both be incredibly happy

 

[brewski420]

If only there was a situation where we'd give you the Bucks, and the NHL comes to both Seattle and the state of Wisconsin, we'd both be incredibly happy

Let's get it done!

 

[DyerMaker66*]

Who does the NBA add if they expand? Seattle and Vancouver have been mentioned, as have Pittsburgh and KC; are there any other eastern cities in the mix?

 

[Stonewall]

Who does the NBA add if they expand? Seattle and Vancouver have been mentioned, as have Pittsburgh and KC; are there any other eastern cities in the mix?

Possibly just one if the owners really care about diluted profit sharing. The NBA has too small of a talent pool as it is.

Las Vegas could be an option though, as well as Virginia Beach.

 

[Shaz]

If only there was a situation where we'd give you the Bucks, and the NHL comes to both Seattle and the state of Wisconsin, we'd both be incredibly happy

I'd take that in a micro second

BTW, why the hell is the NHL NOT in Wisconsin?

Seems like a natural fit to me

 

[Morgoth Bauglir]

I'd take that in a micro second

BTW, why the hell is the NHL NOT in Wisconsin?

Seems like a natural fit to me

From what I understand, every time the public gets polled in Milwaukee they show no interest in the NHL. Wisconsin may be a hockey state but apparently Milwaukee isn't a hockey town and unfortunately it's the only city in Wisconsin large enough to bother putting a major-league sports team in.

 

[MuzikMachine]

This, this.....

Can the league negotiate separately from the owner of a franchise in such a way to influence the value of the franchise, the modus operandi basically being to pay the league off for an approval?

This takes money directly out of the Maloofs pockets and puts it into the the rich teams' pockets.

Something is rotten in the NBA.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/05/06/5398439/sacramento-kings-dallas-ranadive.html#storylink=cpy​

Screams desperation on Sacramento’s part. The fact that they are a bottom tier revenue generator and are willing to decline revenue sharing (btw...how is that enforced?) is almost approaching bribery. As a previous poster pointed out, it will effect the competitiveness of the market - kind of like a low-end NHL (revenue) city willing to decline revenue sharing and icing an AHL quality team just to stay in the NHL.

Come to think of it, makes you wonder if something more is brewing behind the scenes? Hypothetically, let’s say Hansen agreed to the exact same deal whereby he agrees to keep the Kings in Sacramento and will not take revenue sharing, would the end result be a bottom-tier team that cannot afford to be competitive? Fans would tire of loosing, not come out, causing a further drop in revenue to the point where ownership to claim that Sacramento is not a financially viable market and have reason to relocate.

Now if Hansen tried that, he would be accused of being Clay Bennett v 2.0, but this is the (supposed) local ownership group that is proposing this, under the guise of "good faith". Why would a small-market ownership group cut themselves off from a potential revenue stream which would be at the expense of an on-court product? Do any of the Sacramento ownership groups have ties to other non-NBA markets? If the Kings fail under their watch, do they have a "Plan B" that hasn’t come to light? Or are they so focused on the tree (keeping the Kings in Sacramento) that they can’t see the forest?

As an Oilers fan, I can see some parallels of the current Kings situation with the Oilers who were almost relocated to Houston in the late 1990’s. The one thing I could never see is EIG agreeing to forgo revenue sharing to keep the Oilers in Edmonton, especially when revenue sharing was a supposed tool that would keep the small market franchises in their existing market.

 

[wunderpanda]

The Maloofs are not the victims. They purposely tried to kill the market to collect that subsidy, Vivek refusing it is posturing to reinforce that Sacramento is a profitable market.

anyway, for those who don't know about the Maloofs, you should really read their history, best synopsis of the situation I could find.

http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1dhugj/hansen_and_the_maloofs_have_been_talking_since/c9qnub4

No offense, but Seattle had it easy by comparison and still lost the Thunder.

 

[Bullwine85]

From what I understand, every time the public gets polled in Milwaukee they show no interest in the NHL. Wisconsin may be a hockey state but apparently Milwaukee isn't a hockey town and unfortunately it's the only city in Wisconsin large enough to bother putting a major-league sports team in.

This, sadly

To make the NHL work in Milwaukee, you have to market the team as a team that represents the entire state of Wisconsin, not just simply Milwaukee. It's part of the reason the Packers and Brewers are so popular and the Bucks, well, aren't.