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MinJaBen

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I’m down for next Christmas to be low event:

-2020 - Mother in law breaks hip just a few days prior to Xmas

-2021 - Covid Xmas, I tested positive Xmas Day, wife 1 day later and In-laws 3 days later

-2022 - power out for 8hrs on Xmas Wve with a full house in for the holiday and a burst exterior wall pipe. Got a plumbe to come by at the last minute, late Xmas Eve so the leak was supposedly fixed, but looks like we still may have some issues judging by my slab stil showing what appears to be water coming from somewhere, fun times.
Ouch! We had a burst pipe today as well. Fortunately, it was a line for an exterior faucet and the burst was not in the crawl space and it had a separate shutoff.
 

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LOL. My wife made t-shirts for all of us for Christmas and gave them to us after Dinner.

Mine: "Welcome to the party pal"
Hers: "This IS Christmas music"
Kid 1: "Hans, Bubby, I'm your white knight"
Kid 2: "Shoot the Glass"
Kid 3: "The quarterback is toast"

Here's a shot of mine:

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Merry Xmas all!
 

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Merry Christmas y’all
 

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It doesn't need to be spelled out! He's saving his wife and in the end they go away together with Christmas music playing!

What I'm saying is, I think the Christmas angle is incidental to the movie because it's incidental to McClane when he goes through his struggle of taking out a dozen terrorists/robbers.
 

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The argument is, is Die Hard a Christmas film? Should get some good debates
gremlins is a better christmas film. die hard absolutely happens at christmas, gremlin wore the santa hat tho.

irony of fate is better christmas movie
 

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What I'm saying is, I think the Christmas angle is incidental to the movie because it's incidental to McClane when he goes through his struggle of taking out a dozen terrorists/robbers.
And I think that the Christmas angle is in the very core of the film. The McClane family is uniting again for Christmas after having been separated. It's an unusual starting point compared to usual setup where the family is together for starters, but it being Christmas is not incidental at all, for it's the obvious in-universe excuse/prompt for the McClanes to fix their family. The robber terrorists are the, and again an unusual, challenge to overcome to achieve the end resolution of uniting the family for Christmas.

The Christmas theme gets a plenty of call-out, from the unconventional "this IS Christmas music" Yule song in the opening to the film ending with the very traditional holiday season song, the electricians shutting down the grid "on Christmas Eve!", all the way Hans Gruber's plan having a explicitly mentioned "Christmas miracle" "surprise" for his fellow robbers in the form of FBI playing it by the FBI terrorist playbook.

Die Hard intentionally is coy with it and maybe playing for plausible deniability to an extent, but it's obvious Hans Gruber's ultimate downfall is due to his attempt to usurp the Christmas season spirit by the timing of his heist and his cynical use of "Christmas miracle". John McClane is merely an unwitting agent of the Christmas spirit with a very Christmas-y motivation. The top billing of Bruce Willis is really more of a ruse, Hans Gruber really is the centermost character in this very German-like Max und Moritz-y story of bad person getting what's coming for him.
 

Porvari

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Die Hard intentionally is coy with it and maybe playing for plausible deniability to an extent, but it's obvious Hans Gruber's ultimate downfall is due to his attempt to usurp the Christmas season spirit by the timing of his heist and his cynical use of "Christmas miracle". John McClane is merely an unwitting agent of the Christmas spirit with a very Christmas-y motivation. The top billing of Bruce Willis is really more of a ruse, Hans Gruber really is the centermost character in this very German-like Max und Moritz-y story of bad person getting what's coming for him.

Also, her name is Holly. :)
 

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And I think that the Christmas angle is in the very core of the film. The McClane family is uniting again for Christmas after having been separated. It's an unusual starting point compared to usual setup where the family is together for starters, but it being Christmas is not incidental at all, for it's the obvious in-universe excuse/prompt for the McClanes to fix their family. The robber terrorists are the, and again an unusual, challenge to overcome to achieve the end resolution of uniting the family for Christmas.

The Christmas theme gets a plenty of call-out, from the unconventional "this IS Christmas music" Yule song in the opening to the film ending with the very traditional holiday season song, the electricians shutting down the grid "on Christmas Eve!", all the way Hans Gruber's plan having a explicitly mentioned "Christmas miracle" "surprise" for his fellow robbers in the form of FBI playing it by the FBI terrorist playbook.

Die Hard intentionally is coy with it and maybe playing for plausible deniability to an extent, but it's obvious Hans Gruber's ultimate downfall is due to his attempt to usurp the Christmas season spirit by the timing of his heist and his cynical use of "Christmas miracle". John McClane is merely an unwitting agent of the Christmas spirit with a very Christmas-y motivation. The top billing of Bruce Willis is really more of a ruse, Hans Gruber really is the centermost character in this very German-like Max und Moritz-y story of bad person getting what's coming for him.

Tell the truth: the above is just something you recopied out of a paper you did in a Film Arts class you took back in the day, isn't it? :sarcasm:
 
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I admit in my younger days, my brother and I convinced a classmate to try this. And, yes, their tongue stuck to the fence post.

Yeah, I vaguely recall someone in our group doing this as well. It wasn't that big a deal because I think we had water ready when we tried it so he wasn't stuck for long. This would have been before the movie even came out.

Anyone else hop cars in the winter? At a stop sign you'd grab onto the bumper and "ski" behind the car when they got going. Most drivers really didn't like it so we'd hide behind a snowbank and try to sneak in for the mount. But if you had 3 or 4 kids on, it was pretty apparent what was happening even if the driver couldn't see you, lol.

:arr:
 

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Tell the truth: the above is just something you recopied out of a paper you did in a Film Arts class you took back in the day. :sarcasm:
The truth: I sat twenty minutes in my car on a bus station parking lot writing that after dropping my kiddo off for the bus.

I may have studied the film last night at work.
 
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Yeah, I vaguely recall someone in our group doing this as well. It wasn't that big a deal because I think we had water ready when we tried it so he wasn't stuck for long. This would have been before the movie even came out.

Anyone else hop cars in the winter? At a stop sign you'd grab onto the bumper and "ski" behind the car when they got going. Most drivers really didn't like it so we'd hide behind a snowbank and try to sneak in for the mount. But if you had 3 or 4 kids on, it was pretty apparent what was happening even if the driver couldn't see you, lol.

:arr:
Yes. Did it all the time. On sleds, on skies, on snowboards, etc. Did it with a skateboard in the summer on a hill once. That didn’t end well for my skin.
 

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Yes. Did it all the time. On sleds, on skies, on snowboards, etc. Did it with a skateboard in the summer on a hill once. That didn’t end well for my skin.

We never used implements, just "barefooted" (barebooted?). Got harder when cars started going to smooth rear bumpers; not much to grab onto. The best for hopping was the old VW Beetle. They had a tubular rear bumper that could have been made to tow kids. The worst was a bumper where you could barely fit your fingers in. More than one kid was left watching a glove drive away after it got stuck between the bumper and the car body when they dropped off, lol.
 
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We never used implements, just "barefooted" (barebooted?). Got harder when cars started going to smooth rear bumpers; not much to grab onto. The best for hopping was the old VW Beetle. They had a tubular rear bumper that could have been made to tow kids. The worst was a bumper where you could barely fit your fingers in. More than one kid was left watching a glove drive away after it got stuck between the bumper and the car body when they dropped off, lol.
We rarely, if ever, did it where the driver wasn’t in on it, so barefoot wasn’t necessary.
 
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