Prospect Info: Mattias Norlinder Part 4

[Tyson]

He was really never that great in the ahl, so this is par for the course. A couple good exhibition games don’t tell the true story. He’ll be back in Europe next year, I’m sure.

Yep it just goes to show how much of an effort NHL guys put in during the pre season, Norlinder looked like a stud playing the Leafs. He has arguably been the worst D on Laval in many of the games I watched.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

I feel like if Beaudin was that good of a PPQB, Houle wouldn't healthy scratch him. To me it feels more like a treat to Beaudin for being professional in the room while being scratched.

The problem is the 2nd word of your sentence as it is inherently a flag for a biased and overly subjective narrative and that is fine as we all feel a certain way. The next step is to audit your feelings on the matter through an objective lens and that is not happening.

One dimensional PP QB's get benched and scratched all of the time, I just don't see where the confusion can possibly be on this matter.

 

[bcv]

The problem is the 2nd word of your sentence as it is inherently a flag for a biased and overly subjective narrative and that is fine as we all feel a certain way. The next step is to audit your feelings on the matter through an objective lens and that is not happening.

One dimensional PP QB's get benched and scratched all of the time, I just don't see where the confusion can possibly be on this matter.

Dude, everything you post on here is based on your own feelings. Stop trying to be the smartest dude in the room. No one here has ultimate judgment on everything, not even in hockey.

As for the second part of your post, Beaudin is not the top ppqb of this team, which is why he shouldn’t be on the top wave, especially after being healthy scratch.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Dude, everything you post on here is based on your own feelings. Stop trying to be the smartest dude in the room. No one here has ultimate judgment on everything, not even in hockey.

As for the second part of your post, Beaudin is not the top ppqb of this team, which is why he shouldn’t be on the top wave, especially after being healthy scratch.

Oh calm down, I clearly stated that everyone has a bias. Zero reason for your tone or for your little rant.

If you consider my attempted adherence to something resembling objectivity to be bothersome then perhaps you might consider auditing your responses. And.....I never claimed that Beaudin is the default "top ppqb of this team". If you are going to respond in this manner at least take the time to properly address my statement instead of yet again filtering it through your bias and disingenuously paraphrasing me.

The Beaudin issue on this form was and apparently still is a silly one imo and is just a hot take born from an ill supported anti Houle narrative.

Can we not just let the process unfold a little longer and refrain from emotion driven narratives....or atleast back down from them just a little when we cool off? Everyone has emotional responses that are not based in objective analysis and some just need to learn to avoid immediately sharing those thoughts with everyone. I have had to learn that lesson but still slip up from time to time

 

[Tyson]

18 GP in Laval
1G 1A
-19

 

[The Great Weal]

18 GP in Laval
1G 1A
-19

He looked very good in camp so I'm not sure what's going on

 

[montreal]

Whatever they did with him while he was called up, didn't seem to do much good as he looks lazy and disinterested still. But if he keeps this up he doesn't have to worry, he'll be back in Sweden in no time.

 

[Tyson]

Whatever they did with him while he was called up, didn't seem to do much good as he looks lazy and disinterested still. But if he keeps this up he doesn't have to worry, he'll be back in Sweden in no time.

Sad part is a guy like Galipeau has to sit in the press box.

 

[Rapala]

Yep it just goes to show how much of an effort NHL guys put in during the pre season, Norlinder looked like a stud playing the Leafs. He has arguably been the worst D on Laval in many of the games I watched.

Funny I said I was done with him after last season. Then he comes into camp and it looks like a plate of crow for me but he died the very second he got sent back to Laval. Thought he was going to make the team and folded when he didn't or realized he was never going to make the team or the NHL?

 

[Sam de Mtl]

Yeah it is a bit puzzling after a strong camp that he immediately fizzled. At least we are no longer so short on defensemen that it is much of a problem.

At this point, Norlinder doesn't look good in the A and I look forward to him going back home to give icetime to more interesting players instead.

 

[Zilo44]

If we can’t find a spot for Harris…

 

[26Mats]

If we can’t find a spot for Harris…

we may go 12 forwards, 8D and 3 goalies until there is a trade (of a goalie or a dman).

 

[Tyson]

Yeah it is a bit puzzling after a strong camp that he immediately fizzled. At least we are no longer so short on defensemen that it is much of a problem.

At this point, Norlinder doesn't look good in the A and I look forward to him going back home to give icetime to more interesting players instead.

That kid Tourigny deserves a shot over Norlinder.

 

[schwang26]

I’m shocked he’s still in NA. I said last season he’d be back in Europe soon. He’s just not that good.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

I’m shocked he’s still in NA. I said last season he’d be back in Europe soon. He’s just not that good.

Skilled but no intensity. He’s playing shinny hockey.

He’s already been passed on the depth chart by Struble, Harris and Kovacevic. And he’s about to be passed on the gallop by Hutson, Mailloux, Reinbacher and Engstrom.

Heck, even Trudeau’s looking better.

 

[1909]

He is the worst D in Laval. Next season, he is back in Sweden for sure.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

He is the worst D in Laval. Next season, he is back in Sweden for sure.

So that looks sad. After all these posts, we are at Norlinder's part IV, we come to the conclusion he's not made for nhl, he's getting passed by at least 9 D, including Trudeau. What a waste of time, 4 threads about him.

 

[Zilo44]

So that looks sad. After all these posts, we are at Norlinder's part IV, we come to the conclusion he's not made for nhl, he's getting passed by at least 9 D, including Trudeau. What a waste of time, 4 threads about him.

We forget that most prospects don’t make it

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Never understood the hype. I did have limited viewings of him so I tried to defer to others on this guy, but so many posters were ranking him our number 1 prospect etc. reminds me of the Poehling hype, two fringe prospects being glorified beyond belief.

This guy has no intensity/drive, loads of skill and no chance at becoming an NHL regular.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

So that looks sad. After all these posts, we are at Norlinder's part IV, we come to the conclusion he's not made for nhl, he's getting passed by at least 9 D, including Trudeau. What a waste of time, 4 threads about him.

When you’re desperate, you look for any silver lining.

While Norlinder has undeniable skills, there is no snap or urgency to his game. When you are playing in a league filled with skillful players and you don’t bring that sense of urgency or high compete level you will be properly and predictably passed by other prospects who are equally skilled but play at a higher intensity level.

Regrettably, for Norlinder, and the team that held out such high hopes for his ultimate ceiling , he is development- wise, the proverbial ship that has sailed.

Time to move on.

 

[Tyson]

When you’re desperate, you look for any silver lining.

While Norlinder has undeniable skills, there is no snap or urgency to his game. When you are playing in a league filled with skillful players and you don’t bring that sense of urgency or high compete level you will be properly and predictably passed by other prospects who are equally skilled but play at a higher intensity level.

Regrettably, for Norlinder, and the team that held out such high hopes for his ultimate ceiling , he is development- wise, the proverbial ship that has sailed.

Time to move on.

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[26Mats]

When you’re desperate, you look for any silver lining.

While Norlinder has undeniable skills, there is no snap or urgency to his game. When you are playing in a league filled with skillful players and you don’t bring that sense of urgency or high compete level you will be properly and predictably passed by other prospects who are equally skilled but play at a higher intensity level.

Regrettably, for Norlinder, and the team that held out such high hopes for his ultimate ceiling , he is development- wise, the proverbial ship that has sailed.

Time to move on.

The good news is, so many of our D prospects are blossoming. We never expected or needed all of them to succeed. That's why you get a deep pool. And it's looking like more will succeed than we have space for.

The pool of young D is even deeper than the one that had Subban, McDonagh, Streit, Emelin, Y. Weber and O'byrne. Though we'll see if it has the same high end. It way very well.

 

[Habs4Life]

bust from day they drafted him

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

Never understood the hype. I did have limited viewings of him so I tried to defer to others on this guy, but so many posters were ranking him our number 1 prospect etc. reminds me of the Poehling hype, two fringe prospects being glorified beyond belief.

This guy has no intensity/drive, loads of skill and no chance at becoming an NHL regular.

Norlinder had a couple very strong playoffs in the SweHL that led to him getting a lot of hype. I recall he had a couple bad concussions after that which didn't help his development.

The other reason for him being ranked high in our prospect pool was because how bad our drafting was in the years before he was drafted. From 2014 - 2018 our draft picks in the top 3 rounds were as follows:

2014: Scherbak, Lernout
2015: Juulsen, Vejdemo
2016: Sergachev (traded), Bitten
2017: Poehling, Brook, Ikonen, Walford, Fleury
2018: Kotkaniemi, Ylonen, Romanov, Olofsson, Hillis, Harris

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

When you’re desperate, you look for any silver lining.

While Norlinder has undeniable skills, there is no snap or urgency to his game. When you are playing in a league filled with skillful players and you don’t bring that sense of urgency or high compete level you will be properly and predictably passed by other prospects who are equally skilled but play at a higher intensity level.

Regrettably, for Norlinder, and the team that held out such high hopes for his ultimate ceiling , he is development- wise, the proverbial ship that has sailed.

Time to move on.

Yes, it happens. Not a tragedy. We have plenty good D in our bank.