Post-Game Talk: Matthews with a 4pt night and the Oiler win 7-1

[Mav3rick07]

Here's the "legal" hit, no penalty, on Yamamoto...

The Oilers haven’t called up any forwards yet so I guess that’s a good sign ?

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Taking two from the Flamers made for a glorious weekend including an embarrassment enhanced ever more by Tkachuk's turtle pre-game bravado speech which was as effective as a wet popcorn fart in rallying the troops behind him. That Flamers team has trouble and it is joyful to see. They played to the edge last night and were scorched by the best player in the world and lethal PP that responded to each dubious cheap shot administered. This league has been moving to become a no hit finesse game aided and abetted by ticky tack penalty calls. Unfortunately this is also a league that doesn't protect its stars so the Oil go down two players - thank gawd we didn't see any significantly dirty shit with McDavid or Draisaitl.

I hope this results in a death spiral this year for the Flamers team. However I am pragmatic that these goofs will right the ship and continue to be a thorn in the side of the Oilers. It's in their nature and they have been ingrained to compete and battle hard against their arch enemy... better so frankly than the Oil who have been roadkill for a long while. It is this history that leaves me celebrating today but wary of many more grinding, borderline games to come in this unusual season. The cheap stuff will continue and the current Oil roster is better built to win on the scoresheet not in the alleys or streetfight.

On another note, I lived in downtown Cowtown for 20 years as a very visible Oilers and Roughriders fan(atic?). Never once was I ever physically threatened. Lots of good fun ribbing and some caustic exchanges which maybe had some potential to go pear shape. Seems strange to me to read about some of the situations others experienced there.

 

[King K Rool]

If Matthews scores 50 in this shortened season I would probably say he deserves the Hart.

Which begs the question, what would be more impressive? 50 goals in 56 games or 100 points in 56 games? Of course I say 100 but 50 in 56 would be great too.

 

[AddyTheWrath]

One question I had from last night:

I thought you only get a penalty if your challenge fails on an offside call? I didn't know you got a penalty for a failed goaltender interference call. Is that new?

 

[bellagiobob]

Hmmmm nope

My friend was die hard flames fan and then moved to Edmonton years ago for a job and started watching oil game and now likes both teams. He’s pretty die hard.

I think we have different definitions of die hard. In my definition it would be impossible to cheer for both teams. Diehards live and breathe with one main team, and would never cheer for their most hated rival. Secondary teams are allowed, but way down the list. BUT NEVER THE FLAMES.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Here's the "legal" hit, no penalty, on Yamamoto...

He got a boarding penalty on that play.

 

[tardigrade81]

I think we have different definitions of die hard. In my definition it would be impossible to cheer for both teams. Diehards live and breathe with one main team, and would never cheer for their most hated rival. Secondary teams are allowed, but way down the list. BUT NEVER THE FLAMES.

Haha fair enough. He’s pretty passionate about both, like I am with Oil and Sens. But I get your point

None the less, I shall eat some pulled pork, and watch the Flyers Bruins game shortly.

 

[snipes]

Nurse and Barrie tied for 2nd in scoring amongst NHL D men.

McDavid and Draisaitl are 1st and 2nd in overall scoring.

Looking good.

 

[BlackDogg]

Cassie having to talk about the McDavid performance.

 

[AddyTheWrath]

So so lucky to have won the McLottery my god.

Imagine if we had Hanafin instead of McDavid - we'd be on the other side of that play last night.

 

[BlackDogg]

One question I had from last night:

I thought you only get a penalty if your challenge fails on an offside call? I didn't know you got a penalty for a failed goaltender interference call. Is that new?

I also have this question.

 

[Mav3rick07]

Jacob Markstrom has a .903 save percentage this month.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

I also have this question.

Forgot to quote you as well... @AddyTheWrath

Nope, it's any challenge lost. It came into effect last season.

NHL announces rule changes for video review, coach's challenge

 

[Cam98]

Here's the "legal" hit, no penalty, on Yamamoto...

pretty sure this was called boarding.

 

[Stoneman89]

Taking two from the Flamers made for a glorious weekend including an embarrassment enhanced ever more by Tkachuk's turtle pre-game bravado speech which was as effective as a wet popcorn fart in rallying the troops behind him. That Flamers team has trouble and it is joyful to see. They played to the edge last night and were scorched by the best player in the world and lethal PP that responded to each dubious cheap shot administered. This league has been moving to become a no hit finesse game aided and abetted by ticky tack penalty calls. Unfortunately this is also a league that doesn't protect its stars so the Oil go down two players - thank gawd we didn't see any significantly dirty shit with McDavid or Draisaitl.

I hope this results in a death spiral this year for the Flamers team. However I am pragmatic that these goofs will right the ship and continue to be a thorn in the side of the Oilers. It's in their nature and they have been ingrained to compete and battle hard against their arch enemy... better so frankly than the Oil who have been roadkill for a long while. It is this history that leaves me celebrating today but wary of many more grinding, borderline games to come in this unusual season. The cheap stuff will continue and the current Oil roster is better built to win on the scoresheet not in the alleys or streetfight.

On another note, I lived in downtown Cowtown for 20 years as a very visible Oilers and Roughriders fan(atic?). Never once was I ever physically threatened. Lots of good fun ribbing and some caustic exchanges which maybe had some potential to go pear shape. Seems strange to me to read about some of the situations others experienced there.

NEVER underestimate a wet popcorn fart. It has the ability to clear out an entire baseball dugout. Heard it from a friend.

 

[tardigrade81]

Nope, it's any challenge lost.

I find that ridiculous. They need to change that

 

[bellagiobob]

Haha fair enough. He’s pretty passionate about both, like I am with Oil and Sens. But I get your point

None the less, I shall eat some pulled pork, and watch the Flyers Bruins game shortly.

So when the Sens and Oilers play each other, who do you hope wins?

 

[BlackDogg]

Forgot to quote you as well... @AddyTheWrath

Nope, it's any challenge lost. It came into effect last season.

NHL announces rule changes for video review, coach's challenge

I kind of agree, as there was way to many goals being reviewed for a while there.

But no use having the same guys review it. Thats absurd.

 

[AddyTheWrath]

Forgot to quote you as well... @AddyTheWrath

Nope, it's any challenge lost. It came into effect last season.

NHL announces rule changes for video review, coach's challenge

Thanks! Pretty stupid considering how the standard for goalie interference seems to change game-to-game. I understand that it takes up time but it'll just end up penalizing teams even more if the call is botched (exhibit A being us yesterday).

 

[Drivesaitl]

Here's the "legal" hit, no penalty, on Yamamoto...

Like wrestling shit out there. What other club mugs in stereo like the Flames. 2 or more on one is their thing and always has been. Even back in the day they would pay the refs so that they'd be holding our guys while letting Flames punch players in the face. Never seems to change. 3 blind mice Didn't spot this alley mugging despite an injured player that didn't get up, despite video review capability etc.

2 Cowards looking for the smallest player on the ice to mug. A flames moral victory right there.

But the Oilers as an org should be filing to league office for crap like this. Would also make the NHL answer to it more, and one way to do that is highlighting concerns even before the game starts. Somebody in the org should have been in touch with the league, maybe they were, (I doubt it) before the game was even played because this was almost another Brad May bounty type situation here. 2 Oilers players injured, no fault of the Oilers, NHL won't do a thing about it.

 

[tardigrade81]

So when the Sens and Oilers play each other, who do you hope wins?

Ugh, it’s hard. We usually only play twice a year. Whenever needs it more. This year Edmonton. Sens have no shot

if both make the cup........ I don’t know. That would be brutal for me. It really would.

 

[Stoneman89]

Ugh, it’s hard. We usually only play twice a year. Whenever needs it more. This year Edmonton. Sens have no shot

if both make the cup........ I don’t know. That would be brutal for me. It really would.

Walk the plank, matey.

 

[Stoneman89]

Like wrestling shit out there. What other club mugs in stereo like the Flames. 2 or more on one is their thing and always has been. Even back in the day they would pay the refs so that they'd be holding our guys while letting Flames punch players in the face. Never seems to change. 3 blind mice Didn't spot this alley mugging despite an injured player that didn't get up, despite video review capability etc.

2 Cowards looking for the smallest player on the ice to mug. A flames moral victory right there.

But the Oilers as an org should be filing to league office for crap like this. Would also make the NHL answer to it more, and one way to do that is highlighting concerns even before the game starts. Somebody in the org should have been in touch with the league, maybe they were, (I doubt it) before the game was even played because this was almost another Brad May bounty type situation here. 2 Oilers players injured, no fault of the Oilers, NHL won't do a thing about it.

Parros will suspend Yamo (after he recovers and is fit to play of course) for throwing a chin at one of the Flamers when he went down.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

I find that ridiculous. They need to change that

I think they did it to slow down the number of challenges per game, which in turn slows down the game.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

If Matthews scores 50 in this shortened season I would probably say he deserves the Hart.

No. He deserves the Richard then.

Different trophy.