Matthews Vs Kaapo Kakko Vs Laine Vs Marner at 18 years old?

[LeafsNation75]

Think I'll need to have Kakko #1 and Matthews #2 actually. Matthews never showed what Kakko has at worlds.

At the 2016 World Championships in 10 games played Matthews had 6 goals and 3 assists for 9 points. I say that's very good considering that historically the USA has not had the best players on their teams at that event, where as Finland has had better teams.

 

[cgf]

I loved me some Marner and Mikko and Crouse in that class, but this is Matthews by a decisive margin.

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

Matthews for me. He could've played in the NHL during his draft year & been a great player.

 

[Saekk]

Matthews, Kakko, Laine is my order.

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

Matthews for me. He could've played in the NHL during his draft year & been a great player.

Yeah, but not better than Kakko or Laine for that matter.

 

[thadd]

The guy who is the best player of the group now: Mitch Marner.
No, that's not how you spell Austin Matthews. That's how you spell Mitch Marner.

 

[LeafsNation75]

The guy who is the best player of the group now: Mitch Marner.
No, that's not how you spell Austin Matthews. That's how you spell Mitch Marner.

For the record it's spelled Auston Matthews, not Austin Matthews.

 

[thadd]

For the record it's spelled Auston Matthews, not Austin Matthews.

Nice love it when I burn myself trying to be witty.

 

[Finnish your Czech]

I don't see how Laine and Marner can even be options here.

 

[Deadly Dogma]

I don't see how Laine and Marner can even be options here.

Laine was in contention for his shot alone, its that elite, Matthews is well Matthews. This Kakko kid looks like a gamer but hold up. Its a different yr. Laine and Matthews were better players than Huges and Kakko.
Also Marner could be the best of the bunch.

 

[FinlandPanther]

At the 2016 World Championships in 10 games played Matthews had 6 goals and 3 assists for 9 points. I say that's very good considering that historically the USA has not had the best players on their teams at that event, where as Finland has had better teams.

USA usually always has a better team than Finland so no that’s not correct. They have more to pick from.

 

[Kamiccolo]

Every year this happens. The prospects look shinier than ever and people start taking them over established NHlers only a few years older.

At one point on this forum, Pulj was a can't miss guy that no one would trade for anyone over 23.

Matthews scored 40 goals as a rookie center with two rookie linemates. That has never been done before and likely won't be done again for some time.

Let's pump the breaks here.

 

[FinnishSniper]

ya, feels that way. With what we know now about Laine, I think Kakko could definitely be a better player, but there was lots of "future multiple Richard trophy" buzz about Laine when he was that age

Yeah that Laine guy is definitely a write off. The kid is ALREADY 21 and has only hit 110 goals so far. Will never win the Rocket!!

 

[LeafsNation75]

Every year this happens. The prospects look shinier than ever and people start taking them over established NHlers only a few years older.

At one point on this forum, Pulj was a can't miss guy that no one would trade for anyone over 23.

Matthews scored 40 goals as a rookie center with two rookie linemates. That has never been done before and likely won't be done again for some time.

Let's pump the breaks here.

Remember this thread asking if Puljuravi will have a breakout season because he scored 2 goals, 1 assist and was named 1st star in a preseason game.

Jesse Puljujarvi Possible Breakout Season.

 

[Kamiccolo]

Remember this thread asking if Puljuravi will have a breakout season because he scored 2 goals, 1 assist and was named 1st star in a preseason game.

Jesse Puljujarvi Possible Breakout Season.

I didn't even have to click the link to know that thread and the well known poster who created it.

 

[LeafsNation75]

I didn't even have to click the link to know that thread and the well known poster who created it.

What makes that look pathetic is how Leafs fans have been bashed on here for similar thinking when it comes to our prospects. Although I can not remember any Leafs fans who made similar threads about Matthews when he scored in the preseason against Montreal prior to his rookie season.

 

[Kamiccolo]

What makes that look pathetic is how Leafs fans have been bashed on here for similar thinking when it comes to our prospects. Although I can not remember any Leafs fans who made similar threads about Matthews when he scored in the preseason against Montreal prior to his rookie season.

We've both been here long enough that we both should be used to it but are still shocked at the mental gymnastics people can do to avoid seeing the double standard.

 

[LeafsNation75]

We've both been here long enough that we both should be used to it but are still shocked at the mental gymnastics people can do to avoid seeing the double standard.

You are correct that Leafs players and fans are held to a double standard compared to other teams and their fans.

When Vegas blew their 3 goal lead in Game 7 I thought great it's not just the Leafs who have now done that. Nope they are given a pass because of the 5:00 penalty they were given and that's the excuse for the goals they allowed.

Anyway let's get back on topic of the poll.

 

[North Cole]

What makes that look pathetic is how Leafs fans have been bashed on here for similar thinking when it comes to our prospects. Although I can not remember any Leafs fans who made similar threads about Matthews when he scored in the preseason against Montreal prior to his rookie season.

Will Auston Matthews lead the NHL in points consistently in the next few years?

The Auston Matthews Thread Pt. 2

I remember when the Matthew's Mcadavid comparisons were off the charts, talked about everywhere.

Might not be preseason, but every team hypes their prospects. Also, is TWS even an Oiler fan?...

 

[Saekk]

Will Auston Matthews lead the NHL in points consistently in the next few years?

The Auston Matthews Thread Pt. 2

I remember when the Matthew's Mcadavid comparisons were off the charts, talked about everywhere.

Might not be preseason, but every team hypes their prospects. Also, is TWS even an Oiler fan?...

Don't ruin their victim party, that's rude.

And isn't Matthews leading this poll pretty easily? I know i voted for him.

 

[LeafsNation75]

Will Auston Matthews lead the NHL in points consistently in the next few years?

The Auston Matthews Thread Pt. 2

I remember when the Matthew's Mcadavid comparisons were off the charts, talked about everywhere.

Might not be preseason, but every team hypes their prospects. Also, is TWS even an Oiler fan?...

Both those topics were not even created on the Leafs board. Also in the second one thread the first post was about an assist Matthews had. Last time I checked plays like that usually get a thread on the main boards.

TWS is only a fan of those teams if he thinks the Leafs robbed a team of a player, (Tavares leaving the Islanders) when the Leafs trade their prospects (All of the sudden he's hyping up Grundstrom and Druzi who they traded for Muzzin) and in this case of Puljuravi, that thread was to show how he would become a better player than Matthews since they were in the same draft.

 

[North Cole]

Don't ruin their victim party, that's rude.

And isn't Matthews leading this poll pretty easily? I know i voted for him.

I did too

 

[North Cole]

Both those topics were not even created on the Leafs board. Also in the second one thread the first post was about an assist Matthews had. Last time I checked plays like that usually get a thread on the main boards.

TWS is only a fan of those teams if he thinks the Leafs robbed a team of a player, (Tavares leaving the Islanders) when the Leafs trade their prospects (All of the sudden he's hyping up Grundstrom and Druzi who they traded for Muzzin) and in this case of Puljuravi, that thread was to show how he would become a better player than Matthews since they were in the same draft.

No they were created on the main boards by two leaf fans. Yes and ten posts down the assist thread there is a Leaf fan posting charts trying to compare AM with CM. TWS is a known leaf hater.

All fanbases are bashed for over hyping their prospects or teams, it's not something only Leaf fans have to deal with.

 

[LeafsNation75]

All fanbases are bashed for over hyping their prospects or teams, it's not something only Leaf fans have to deal with.

I just don't recall any Leafs fans starting threads on the main board about their prospects based on 1 preseason game the way TWS did about Puljuravi. Before Auston Matthews played his rookie season I remember he scored a goal in the preseason against Carey Price and no one said he would become the greatest 1st overall pick because of that.