Proposal: Matthews [TOR] for Laine + Trouba [WIN]

[missionAvs]

Yeah, Jet's getting a bit hosed here. The difference between Matthews and Laine if there is even any is not Trouba.

 

[Quiksilver*]

If Toronto was really trying to move Matthews I think they would be better off approaching Arizona. He would have maximum value there. Maybe Arizona puts a package together including OEL ,Domi ?

Arizona tried (they stated as much). Toronto said they were not moving Matthews for anything. Thus, they failed.

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

Yeah, Jet's getting a bit hosed here. The difference between Matthews and Laine if there is even any is not Trouba.

There is definitely a difference between Laine and Matthews, and fairly decent sized one, but to your point, the add-in is no where near a player of Trouba's caliber

 

[Fairview]

Arizona tried (they stated as much). Toronto said they were not moving Matthews for anything. Thus, they failed.

Maybe with Matthews still holding out, they could come together on a deal now?

 

[BayStreetBully]

If the Leafs wanted Laine, they'd have just drafted him at #1. They wanted the franchise #1 C instead.

No to anything Winnipeg gives up.

 

[LondonKendrick]

Obv stupid proposal but to even the value out


Laine
Trouba

for

Rielly
Matthews

That is proper value

And yet Leafs passed on Trouba for Rielly and passed on Laine for Matthews, go figure.

 

[kb]

There is definitely a difference between Laine and Matthews, and fairly decent sized one, but to your point, the add-in is no where near a player of Trouba's caliber

I would agree if this was a trade in a vacuum with team needs not considered. Problem is, the Leafs would be trading exactly what they need for something that, although very nice to have, is not exactly what they need.

Same for the Jets.

 

[Finnflash]

I don't speak for all jets fans but in my opinion:

1. I value Trouba a lot

I watched 78 jets games this past year and 5 leaf games. Out of those 5 leaf games I didn't like Riely in two games. In three I thought he played great. In the 78 jets games I can say that I liked Trouba game in the majority that he played. But I know to make a fair comparison I would need to watch lot more leaf games. So I won't pretend to say Trouba is better than Riely because I didn't see enough of Riely. So for now I'll keep it safe by saying I'd rather have Trouba.

2. Mathews vs Laine is ridiculous

I watched the same amount of games for each player I can honestly say I think Mathews is a higher valued player I don't think I would pay more than even if it was a Mathews/Laine swap. Other teams might value Mathews more but I don't feel we need a lot more depth at centre. If we didn't have shief and little I might take a look at the op's proposal. But the fact is I don't think we need to with our depth.

Bottom line for me is player value has everything to do with the whole team picture and not just how good that player is (or might be)

 

[Quiksilver*]

Maybe with Matthews still holding out, they could come together on a deal now?

Didn't know Mike Millbury had an account on HF. Welcome, Mike.

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

Obv stupid proposal but to even the value out


Laine
Trouba

for

Rielly
Matthews

That is proper value

No its not

Rielly is a stud offensive dman. Depending on your need you could argue Rielly>Trouba

Matthews over Laine 8 days a week

Make it:

Gardiner/Matthews

for

Trouba/Laine

and THAT is close to fair value. Both Trouba and Gardiner are 2nd pair dmen, albeit different styles, but Trouba>Gardiner and Matthews > Laine but neither matchup is over the other in a huge margin. I think they weigh out pretty close to even

 

[Fishy]

I read literally a thousand and more posts on the Laine thread before the draft with LeafNation vs Finns on who was better between AM and PL. please stop, I am begging you.

Besides

• Jets need D depth
• Jets just locked up their franchise C

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

I would agree if this was a trade in a vacuum with team needs not considered. Problem is, the Leafs would be trading exactly what they need for something that, although very nice to have, is not exactly what they need.

This is exactly why a trade like this would never happen. Along with 95% of the trade proposals on HFboards...

 

[X66]

Since Matthews is the only franchise player here, no.

 

[Jets4Life]

I would wait until he's signed a contract before we say he's a 6+M dollar man, I'd DEFINITELY hold out until he signs before being a sarcastic ****.

No chance Trouba gets over $6 million AAV. He will be lucky to receive $5.5 million

 

[DraberlyakMcHallkins*]

You're right, this is HFBoards, not NHL16.

no you're totally right. One is a simulation and one is where we throw **** against the wall and hope it sticks, different stratospheres. We can't take NHL16 too seriously around hfboards of all places

 

[Fairview]

Didn't know Mike Millbury had an account on HF. Welcome, Mike.

Thank you, Mr. Lamoriello. How negotiations with Matthews going?

 

[winnipegger]

If Chevaldayoff offered this Toronto would be stupid not to accept. The difference between Matthews and Laine clearly isn't Trouba....

 

[Quiksilver*]

no you're totally right. One is a simulation and one is where we throw **** against the wall and hope it sticks, different stratospheres. We can't take NHL16 too seriously around hfboards of all places

Thank you. Wasn't hard now was it.

 

[MardyBum]

Please tell me what you think Trouba will sign for. Any "insider" has claimed the number to be astronomical.

Nobody is signing a sweetheart deal to stay in Winnipeg. Most of all, Trouba.

Care to make a wager? I'll take 6/year, you take 4. Closest wins.

I'll gladly take 6 a year if it's a 7 or 8 year deal. Proclaiming he's "holding out" when we signed Scheifele just over a week ago is a pathetic statement. Was Scheifele holding out? Is Monahan holding out? Is Gaudreau? Lindholm?

You know nothing.

 

[Fairview]

No its not

Rielly is a stud offensive dman. Depending on your need you could argue Rielly>Trouba

Matthews over Laine 8 days a week

Make it:

Gardiner/Matthews

for

Trouba/Laine

and THAT is close to fair value. Both Trouba and Gardiner are 2nd pair dmen, albeit different styles, but Trouba>Gardiner and Matthews > Laine but neither matchup is over the other in a huge margin. I think they weigh out pretty close to even

Some kind of a joke? Gardener ? Let me take a guess...you live in Toronto ...

 

[Plural]

Proposal makes no sense and neither team does it. It doesn't even matter that in vacuum the value is off. But Leafs are not trading away potential franchise C for anything else than a better franchise C. Jets are not willing to trade their potential star winger and potential 1st pairing D.

This thread is just made to rustle up some jimmies. Cause the proposition makes no sense.

 

[Avsblitzkrieg]

I think they do too but they would also need a separate trade to get a #1 centre to minimize any fan backlash.

If the Leafs could acquire Duchene this offseason as well, preferably back to back they would close the first trade FO SHUR

You aren't gonna like the price of Duchene

IMO neither team should do this

 

[Jets4Life]

No its not

Rielly is a stud offensive dman. Depending on your need you could argue Rielly>Trouba

If Reilly is so much better than Trouba, why do people keep insisting Trouba will get over $6,000,000 AAV contract, when Reilly settled for $5.0 million?

Matthews over Laine 8 days a week

lol.

I'm not sure who is the better player at this point, but judging by the way Laine played in the WHC, it's definitely close.

Make it:

Gardiner/Matthews

for

Trouba/Laine

and THAT is close to fair value. Both Trouba and Gardiner are 2nd pair dmen, albeit different styles, but Trouba>Gardiner and Matthews > Laine but neither matchup is over the other in a huge margin. I think they weigh out pretty close to even

No thanks. Reilly/Matthews for Trouba/Laine would be a fair trade.

 

[Gavy]

Leafs. Are. Not. Trading. Matthews. For. Anybody. Other. Than. McDavid.

You guys get it yet?

 

[Finnflash]

Leafs. Are. Not. Trading. Matthews. For. Anybody. Other. Than. McDavid.

You guys get it yet?

Would you trade Matthews and Rielly for McDavid?