Matthews Match-Up Strategy in Games 3/4

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How would you deploy Matthews vs. the Bruins in Toronto?

  1. Matthews vs. Bergeron line - Offensive focus (ie. Marleau-Matthews-Nylander)

    4.3%
  2. Matthews vs. Bergeron line - Defensive focus (ie. Hyman-Matthews-Brown)

    6.1%
  3. Matthews vs. Bergeron line - Neutral focus (ie. Hyman-Matthews-Nylander)

    9.6%
  4. Matthews away from Bergeron line - Offensive focus

    75.7%
  5. Matthews away from Bergeron line - Neutral focus

    4.3%
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  1. PatrikOverAuston

    PatrikOverAuston Laine > Matthews

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    No, I am very much correct. Sorry to tell you- this is probably like when you found Santa wasn't real. That must have been really difficult, what, a year ago or so?
     
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    If Matthews line is getting killed why is he only -2? Nylander is even? What's really happening here?
     
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    lol.

    no.

    you'll learn.
     
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    Jets are closer.
     
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    -2 is not good :huh:
     
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    Not sure if it’s been said but if I’m Babcock I play the Matthews line against Bergeron’s 100% of the time in these next two home games. They aren’t winning the series, it would be a great for his development
     
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    Also gotta be careful about crushing a kids confidence. Usually you want to put someone young in a position to succeed not fail. He's failed the first two games. It would make sense to give him a confidence boost and not put him against Bergeron
     
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    This was a thinly veiled fake topic so you could again brag about bergeron and marchands stick checks per 60. So glad they got owned in 2013 final.
     
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    Well apparently the marchand line has 20 pts combined against his line. That's the narrative we have been given. If his line is getting destroyed how is he ONLY -2? How is his linemate even? Fake news is rearing its ugly head.
     
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    -2....the line they are playing against is +6.

    Not good. Not good at all.
     
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    If the bruins line is +6, shouldn't matthews be -6? Clearly these lines havent matched up against each other throughout the series. That's the point i'm making.
     
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    IMO getting him away from Bergeron for most of the game and letting him dominate is best plan. I'd go with this:

    Matchup line: Hyman-Marleau-Brown - Looked like a 1st line when Matthews was injured, going to take the loss facing Bergeron but they're all hardworking players that can play the grind game.

    Vs. Krejci: JVR-Matthews-Marner - Would be dominant. Think it would have beautiful chemistry, tell JVR to keep up the physicality he's had and it should get a 1-2+ goal differential for sure.

    3rd lines: Johnsson-Nylander-Kapanen - these wingers have been some of our best so far, while Nylander plays much better at C. The 2 way play of the wingers and Nylander's creativity makes it a pretty easy bet to do great.

    4th line: Leivo-Bozak-Martin - Bozak has been awesome vs. 4th line competition, should be able to make plays with Leivo, and Martin can forecheck and keep it simple. Try to get Martin to take off Chara or any D for 5 minutes if you can.
     
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    Kadri has really put the team in a bad spot, there was no f"ing point in that hit.
     
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    The Matthews line was fine at even strength last game (not that you’d hear that from then arratives going on here).

    The Bruins special teams are absolutely destroying the Leafs though so far and that’s where a lot of points are being put up.
     
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    When you factor in he is suppose to be putting up points as well and currently has zero, then -2 is significant. Hes suppose to be a dual threat and is doing neither. If you would like to change the word from "getting killed" to "getting shutdown" or whatever, than go ahead. The bottom line is hes not playing well and that has a lot to do with who hes going up against
     
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    His job is to put up points. He's not a shutdown guy despite what Leaf fans will tell you about his Selke like defense, he never will be a shut down guy as long as he's the top point getter on the team. Put him in a position to score, keep him the hell away from the BPM line, give that matchup to some guys who can skate fast and aren't defensive liabilities.

    And Toronto isn't going to be shutting down anything so long as they keep making it easy for the BPM line to rush and attack their net. The best way to shut down skilled offensive players is by putting the body to them and making them fear going to those dirty areas. A soft team like Toronto is going to be completely walked over by a star powered line like the BPM line.
     
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    Matthews vs Bergeron is super over simplified. A lot of the bergeron lines goals have been on the pp or because of toronto's defense making poor decisions. One guy can only do so much, I'm not a leafs fan but this narrative comes across as an excuse to **** on Matthews. He hasn't been great in the series but he is a great player and I'm sure he'll get going, if Matthews had Marchand and Pastrnak for wingers it would obviously be very different.
     
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    You can't expect to get a bunch of credit when things go right and you are producing and then when things are bad and your not producing to take no heat
     
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    I think the narrative isn't so much "Matthews can't stop the Bergeron line" and moreso "Bergeron is stopping the Matthews line"

    Not sure all the credit comes down to that line for Boston, but its definitely true that the Toronto top line has been extremely quiet
     
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    The problem is he's doing nothing when hes's the primary offensive weapon on the team. It doesn't matter that he's had a lot of chances or he's only a -2, what matters is he has 0 points so far this playoffs. If they want to stand any chance at winning a game, let alone this series, let alone the cup, he needs to start producing.
     
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    Get him as far away from Bergeron as they can
     
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    Boston has been able to do that quite well.

    It’s a tough poll but I’m not sure how much more comfortable I’d feel with Brown flanking Matthews to help defensively.

    I want to go with Matthews away from Bergy - offensive option but the Maple Leafs have nobody else to matchup against Boston’s top line. Marner and JvR will have to get over the physicality of the game and produce... Perhaps Boston finds itself in the box more often.

    Went with vs. Bergy’s line - neutral. Neither Bozak nor Plekanec would cut it.
     
  23. CantLoseWithMatthews

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    i'd try to keep any center in the world away from Bergeron, and Matthews is no exception
     
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    No Kadri means 30 goals gone from the lineup and one of your top 2 defensive centers. Makes it pretty damn hard against the Bruins.
     
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    This is the biggest hole left by Kadri
     
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