Movies: Marvel Cinematic Universe Discussion - Part 4

[Garo]

Dumb

Majors? Completely agreed, truly a spectacularly dumb being.

 

[NyQuil]

Majors? Completely agreed, truly a spectacularly dumb being.

Just recast.

No big deal.

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

Just recast.

No big deal.

Totally this. Marvel has this issue where every recast has to be explained within the MCU (Iron Man, Capt, BP, etc...) which is stupid. We all understand why Majors has to go. Just recast.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Just recast.

No big deal.

This is the perfect exit ramp off the Multiverse.

Drop Kang and the Multiverse and course correct. The MCU is dead in the water, it needs emergency care.

They can bring Kang back with another actor in a decade.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

please explain how this is dumb.

It is a dogwhistle.

 

[trojansoilers]

I feel like they can use Loki S2 as an offramp for Kang's storyline:
- Kang the Conqueror was defeated by Antman, confirmed by Mobius
- He Who Remains was replaced by Loki
- Victor Timely is good and helping the TVA
- The remaining variants are being hunted down by the new TVA

They can just explain that the TVA was successful in eradicating all the Kang variants that are threats.

 

[John Price]

all that buildup and the main villain was dropped lol

Dumb

The right call m

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

all that buildup and the main villain was dropped lol

As of now, the actor who played the main villain was dropped. Not the main villain.

 

[Osprey]

I imagine that Disney wants to put this controversy and disastrous phase of the MCU behind them and will use this as the perfect excuse to go in a new direction with a new main villain.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Really enjoyed Majors as Kang and was getting excited for the build up .. really disappointed we won’t see that though but he got what he deserved for being a POS

 

[John Price]

As of now, the actor who played the main villain was dropped. Not the main villain.

recasting him would be weird. Wonder how it'd be explained

are they just going to act like majors didn't exist and retcon loki and ant man like they cgid the star wars movies to throw in anakin

 

[BertCorbeau]

recasting him would be weird. Wonder how it'd be explained

are they just going to act like majors didn't exist and retcon loki and ant man like they cgid the star wars movies to throw in anakin

Either they re-cast and continue the story, with a new actor as a different Kang variant that we haven't seen, or they re-think of a new big bad and pivot accordingly. The obvious would be Dr Doom but at this point I don't think they can give him the proper runway and build up he deserves to be effective.

Probably easier to go with the first option. The introduction of the multi-verse can allow them to re-cast easily under the guise of a new variant. Problem is we have seen so many Kang variant's of Majors, I don't know how they just make them "go away".

 

[Satans Hockey]

recasting him would be weird. Wonder how it'd be explained

are they just going to act like majors didn't exist and retcon loki and ant man like they cgid the star wars movies to throw in anakin

I don't think it even needs to be explained going forward, most people now know he was found guilty and fired. Just treat it like a new James Bond casting and move on.

 

[MadDevil]

Disney being Disney I think they'll try to distance themselves as much as possible from the entire situation and just pivot to a new villain.

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

recasting him would be weird. Wonder how it'd be explained

are they just going to act like majors didn't exist and retcon loki and ant man like they cgid the star wars movies to throw in anakin

As others have said...why does it need to be explained? To answer the bolded...yes. Just have Jonathan Boyega come in and take over Kang. No need to explain.

 

[NyQuil]

recasting him would be weird. Wonder how it'd be explained

are they just going to act like majors didn't exist and retcon loki and ant man like they cgid the star wars movies to throw in anakin

They didn't explain Don Cheadle as Rhodes.

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

They didn't explain Don Cheadle as Rhodes.

But they did explain Iron Man, Capt, and Black Panther. I think all was unnecessary, except maybe CA as the Falcon gives the character a new dynamic.

Also not sure about BW. Did Johansson want out?

 

[beowulf]

But they did explain Iron Man, Capt, and Black Panther. I think all was unnecessary, except maybe CA as the Falcon gives the character a new dynamic.

Also not sure about BW. Did Johansson want out?

Not sure what you mean when were Iron Man, Captain America and Black Panther recast? I mean Capt retired and a new captain america was chosen by him. BP died in real life so they did like in the comics and looks like they are making his sister the new BP. Iron Man is not part of the MCU right now in any form I am aware of.

 

[Il Stugotz]

they're really boned now, for he's irreplaceable in the mcu

Spoiler

stop casting men

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

Not sure what you mean when were Iron Man, Captain America and Black Panther recast? I mean Capt retired and a new captain america was chosen by him. BP died in real life so they did like in the comics and looks like they are making his sister the new BP. Iron Man is not part of the MCU right now in any form I am aware of.

I just mean that, Evans and RDJ (Scarlet too?) were done with their roles and obviously Chadwick passed and instead of simply recasting and continuing on their main path, they had to rewrite storylines and explain within the MCU why there's a different actor. This makes writers have to totally pivot. Plus, there are a million good untold Stark and Black Widow stories that won't be told.

I just think that, instead of changing their stories to accommodate an actor's choice in real life, just recast and stay on the path. Fans get that actors move on or tragically pass, or in this case, get in trouble with the law.

 

[beowulf]

I just mean that, Evans and RDJ (Scarlet too?) were done with their roles and obviously Chadwick passed and instead of simply recasting and continuing on their main path, they had to rewrite storylines and explain within the MCU why there's a different actor. This makes writers have to totally pivot. Plus, there are a million good untold Stark and Black Widow stories that won't be told.

I just think that, instead of changing their stories to accommodate an actor's choice in real life, just recast and stay on the path. Fans get that actors move on or tragically pass, or in this case, get in trouble with the law.

I get that and agree when something like this happens but I don't think they changed anything for those other characters, these were the plans from the start, more or less. Cap would find the life he never got and grow old, Black Widow would die etc. Stark would sacrifice himself. The only one that required a change was Black Panther as they didn't want to recast the same role and continue as nothing happened because of the way Boswman was great in the role and how he died from cancer so young.

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

I get that and agree when something like this happens but I don't think they changed anything for those other characters, these were the plans from the start, more or less. Cap would find the life he never got and grow old, Black Widow would die etc. Stark would sacrifice himself. The only one that required a change was Black Panther as they didn't want to recast the same role and continue as nothing happened because of the way Boswman was great in the role and how he died from cancer so young.

Not sure if that's totally true. Both RDJ and Chris Evan's contracts were up and they were both vocal that they were done with those roles. In hindsight, the endings to both of the characters ended up being iconic, but I'd think Disney would have loved to keep them in their roles. Both could/should have just been recast as have Boseman.

 

[beowulf]

Not sure if that's totally true. Both RDJ and Chris Evan's contracts were up and they were both vocal that they were done with those roles. In hindsight, the endings to both of the characters ended up being iconic, but I'd think Disney would have loved to keep them in their roles. Both could/should have just been recast as have Boseman.

Well RDJ is rumored to be coming back in some form so we shall see lol.

 

[Holden Caulfield]

They didn't explain Don Cheadle as Rhodes.

They did do a nod to it. First time Cheadle walks into a scene in IM2 he makes a meta joke to the audience like "Yes it's me, I'm Rhodey, deal with it".

 

[RandV]

I just mean that, Evans and RDJ (Scarlet too?) were done with their roles and obviously Chadwick passed and instead of simply recasting and continuing on their main path, they had to rewrite storylines and explain within the MCU why there's a different actor. This makes writers have to totally pivot. Plus, there are a million good untold Stark and Black Widow stories that won't be told.

I just think that, instead of changing their stories to accommodate an actor's choice in real life, just recast and stay on the path. Fans get that actors move on or tragically pass, or in this case, get in trouble with the law.

That seems like a 'be careful what you wish for' thing. While I agree in exceptional circumstances, such as with Majors here and to a lesser extent Boseman (respect for the deceased and all), I feel like if you just start swapping out actors like they're James Bond or Dr. Who you could run into a whole different set of problems.

Probably fine for to do for your dedicated comic book fan, but for the regular movie audience that's made the whole MCU experience so successful to this point? They already have a hard time keeping up with all the interconnecting storylines and such, this would only makes it worse. It also keeps the roster size in check as there's unlike comic books there's only so many characters you can bring into the fold at a time for the big screen.