Confirmed with Link: Martinook 2 Year Extension ($2M AAV)

[FreshSeabass]

EDIT: #Official 2y x 4MIL ..... 2MIL AAV

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[MinJaBen]

I just posted that in the news and notes thread, too. I hadn't realized he was RFA vs. UFA. That's great!

 

[GoldiFox]

Hopefully still under $2 million. He's a good utility knife but not far above replacement level. I had no idea he was a RFA. He has 3 assists all year and I can't say that surprises me, can't remember him ever making a nice pass over the past 50 games.

 

[FreshSeabass]

Ill take a guess ...... 1.5 AAV

 

[CanesFanBudMan]

Hopefully still under $2 million. He's a good utility knife but not far above replacement level.

He is about an ideal bottom 6er in my opinion. Despite that I agree much over 2mm is probably too much

 

[Chrispy]

Ill take a guess ...... 1.5 AAV

I'll be very surprised if he takes a pay cut from his current $1.8M. I'd guess between $2M and $2.25M per year. Especially since I think that buys out his first UFA year.

 

[Joe McGrath]

I'll be very surprised if he takes a pay cut from his current $1.8M. I'd guess between $2M and $2.25M per year. Especially since I think that buys out his first UFA year.

Yup. My guess is $2 mil next year and $2.25 in 2020.

 

[Canes]

On a good team, he is an above average 4th liner. I hope we really haven't mistaken him for anything more than that though.

 

[GoldiFox]

Martinook @ $2 million + Williams @ $4 million
OR
Ferland @ $6 million + AHLer

Give me Ferland all day, every day. Canes will certainly end up overpaying Martinook and Williams instead.

 

[DougieSmash]

I like him but it's pointless to dress Martinook, Foegele and McGinn in the same roster. They are 4th liners.

 

[DougieSmash]

I like him but it's pointless to dress Martinook, Foegele and McGinn in the same roster. They are 4th liners.

 

[Incubajerks]

He came, he produced, he plays hard and a has a place in the team. Pay the man, just don't overpay.

 

[JCLA]

I like him but it's pointless to dress Martinook, Foegele and McGinn in the same roster. They are 4th liners.

Not saying they won't resign him but McGinn's contract runs through 18-19 so there is probably a good chance he is gone.

 

[GoldiFox]

I'll be very surprised if he takes a pay cut from his current $1.8M. I'd guess between $2M and $2.25M per year. Especially since I think that buys out his first UFA year.

He signed $1.8 million x 2 years coming off a 24 and 25 points seasons. Since signing Martinook has paced 15 point (2017-18) and 21 point (2018-19) years. So his productions has declined since his last deal, though as you state this would buy out one UFA year.

Not saying they won't resign him but McGinn's contract runs through 18-19 so there is probably a good chance he is gone.

McGinn is a RFA and one of Rod's golden boys. I'd be surprised if they let McGinn go.

 

[Joe McGrath]

Martinook @ $2 million + Williams @ $4 million
OR
Ferland @ $6 million + AHLer

Give me Ferland all day, every day. Canes will certainly end up overpaying Martinook and Williams instead.

Well shit if Ferland takes a 1 year deal at $6 million, terrific. The issue with Ferland is going to be the long term commitment not what he costs next year.

 

[Ole Gil]

I like him but it's pointless to dress Martinook, Foegele and McGinn in the same roster. They are 4th liners.

I'm hoping McGinn gets traded. Foegele has some serious upside with the amount and quality of chances he's able to generate by himself.

 

[GoldiFox]

Well **** if Ferland takes a 1 year deal at $6 million, terrific. The issue with Ferland is going to be the long term commitment not what he costs next year.

The only term I care about is the 2019-20 season and whether the Canes plan to compete or throw away another year. At this point the thought that 4-5 years from now what will upset me as a Carolina Hurricanes fan is that Ferland is broken down and taking up too much Cap space seems laughable to me. This team hasn't made the Playoffs in 10 years and has $45.6 million in current Cap space. Overpaying Ferland won't hurt anyone but Dundon's pocketbook. And if he's not willing to take some damage to that then we have much bigger problems to worry about.

 

[CandyCanes]

Friedman once again breaking the Canes news. Wonder who is his source.

 

[FreshSeabass]

Friedman once again breaking the Canes news. Wonder who is his source.

I was thinking the same thing. He must have a connect with someone in the FO.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Martinook @ $2 million + Williams @ $4 million
OR
Ferland @ $6 million + AHLer

Give me Ferland all day, every day. Canes will certainly end up overpaying Martinook and Williams instead.

Except they'd end up "overpaying" Martinook and Williams for maybe two years, but they'd end up "overpaying" Ferland for 6, or 7, or 8. Flexibility matters.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

The only term I care about is the 2019-20 season and whether the Canes plan to compete or throw away another year. At this point the thought that 4-5 years from now what will upset me as a Carolina Hurricanes fan is that Ferland is broken down and taking up too much Cap space seems laughable to me. This team hasn't made the Playoffs in 10 years and has $45.6 million in current Cap space. Overpaying Ferland won't hurt anyone but Dundon's pocketbook. And if he's not willing to take some damage to that then we have much bigger problems to worry about.

You can keep saying this all you want, and that's fine. If all *you* care about is the 2019-2020 season, that's your prerogative -- but the FO is responsible for caring for more than that. And overpaying Ferland for *many years* is risky, especially as our younger players develop and need to be paid.

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

Friedman once again breaking the Canes news. Wonder who is his source.

Waddell’s cable guy

 

[GoldiFox]

You can keep saying this all you want, and that's fine. If all *you* care about is the 2019-2020 season, that's your prerogative -- but the FO is responsible for caring for more than that. And overpaying Ferland for *many years* is risky, especially as our younger players develop and need to be paid.

You mean to tell me they aren’t going with my plan involving complete disregard for the future to finally make a f***ing Playoffs (as Bill Peepers would emote)?

Well carry on then.

 

[Joe McGrath]

The only term I care about is the 2019-20 season and whether the Canes plan to compete or throw away another year. At this point the thought that 4-5 years from now what will upset me as a Carolina Hurricanes fan is that Ferland is broken down and taking up too much Cap space seems laughable to me. This team hasn't made the Playoffs in 10 years and has $45.6 million in current Cap space. Overpaying Ferland won't hurt anyone but Dundon's pocketbook. And if he's not willing to take some damage to that then we have much bigger problems to worry about.

Then they should just offer Matt Duchene a max contract instead since there are no reprocussions past next year right?

 

[GoldiFox]

Then they should just offer Matt Duchene a max contract instead since there are no reprocussions past next year right?

Personally I’d go for Matthews. I’d enjoy next year very much if Duchene was added. It gives me no joy to be $20 million under the Cap, so why not? Besides the obvious of where that money comes from.

It’s reported that 15+ teams are going to line up for Ferland in Free Agency. I guess the lowest spending team in the league is the smarter one for letting him walk?