Proposal: Maroon + 18' 2nd for Bowey

[Davin Craft]

Who says no?

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[ChaoticOrange]

Depends what you think of Bowey I suppose but I would pass. Edmonton needs to compile draft picks, not sell them off.

 

[Deam78]

Washington says no. They need defense.

 

[traparatus]

Caps don't have anyone better than Bowey for 3d pair RD.

Maroon + Benning for Bowey + 2nd+crappy winger (Chiasson)

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Caps don't have anyone better than Bowey for 3d pair RD.

Maroon + Benning for Bowey + 2nd+crappy winger (Chiasson)

You're getting worse, not better. If Edmonton wanted Chiasson they could have just signed him for nothing in the offseason - and can again this coming offseason.

 

[GOilers88]

Edmonton needs to stop giving away their 2nd round draft picks. Seems those picks always turn into halfway decent players.

 

[traparatus]

You're getting worse, not better. If Edmonton wanted Chiasson they could have just signed him for nothing in the offseason - and can again this coming offseason.

Could you clarify? Who is getting worse?

Chiasson is there to balance the cap. Washington is tight on the cap dollars.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Could you clarify? Who is getting worse?

Chiasson is there to balance the cap. Washington is tight on the cap dollars.

Worse value wise for Edmonton IMO. I dunno maybe others see something in Bowey that I don't but I've kept a pretty close eye on him since junior and I just don't see a top four guy there.

Maybe it's just me but Benning showed really, really well last year and I wouldn't consider Bowey a huge upgrade, and I think we could do better than ~55th overall and Chiasson for Maroon.

Talking heads in Edmonton are saying the Oil want a 2nd rounder and a close to NHL ready prospect for Maroon.

 

[traparatus]

Worse value wise for Edmonton IMO. I dunno maybe others see something in Bowey that I don't but I've kept a pretty close eye on him since junior and I just don't see a top four guy there.

Maybe it's just me but Benning showed really, really well last year and I wouldn't consider Bowey a huge upgrade, and I think we could do better than ~55th overall and Chiasson for Maroon.

Talking heads in Edmonton are saying the Oil want a 2nd rounder and a close to NHL ready prospect for Maroon.

I see, fair enough. I like Benning and want him on the Caps for the same reason you want to keep him. That said, MAYBE Bowey has a higher upside. He is just a mistake factory right now. I rate Maroon's value as 2nd+3rd.

Washington cannot move Bowey without getting a RD back. No Bowey, means Chorney is dressing and that, my friends, is no bueno.

 

[hockeykicker]

washington hangs up

 

[hockeykicker]

Worse value wise for Edmonton IMO. I dunno maybe others see something in Bowey that I don't but I've kept a pretty close eye on him since junior and I just don't see a top four guy there.

Maybe it's just me but Benning showed really, really well last year and I wouldn't consider Bowey a huge upgrade, and I think we could do better than ~55th overall and Chiasson for Maroon.

Talking heads in Edmonton are saying the Oil want a 2nd rounder and a close to NHL ready prospect for Maroon.

but what does washington get out of this? arguably its best defensive prospect (whos played pretty much all year in nhl) and a 2nd for a rental?

 

[hockeykicker]

Who says no?

washington

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I see, fair enough. I like Benning and want him on the Caps for the same reason you want to keep him. That said, MAYBE Bowey has a higher upside. He is just a mistake factory right now. I rate Maroon's value as 2nd+3rd.

Washington cannot move Bowey without getting a RD back. No Bowey, means Chorney is dressing and that, my friends, is no bueno.

I'd be willing to give up Benning as I think Davidson is better and I think Ethan Bear will kick the door in soon but it would need to be something like:

Benning, Maroon, {something} for Vrana + {something}

 

[ChaoticOrange]

but what does washington get out of this? arguably its best defensive prospect (whos played pretty much all year in nhl) and a 2nd for a rental?

I've said I don't really like Bowey all that much, so I'm open to something else.

 

[hockeykicker]

I've said I don't really like Bowey all that much, so I'm open to something else.

problem is the caps have no need for maroon. your likely to get better value from someone else.

 

[Kanye]

Edmonton needs to stop giving away their 2nd round draft picks. Seems those picks always turn into halfway decent players.

Oilers are terrible drafters it's almost better for them to use their picks as currency as opposed to drafting anyone in the 2nd round.

 

[traparatus]

I'd be willing to give up Benning as I think Davidson is better and I think Ethan Bear will kick the door in soon but it would need to be something like:

Benning, Maroon, {something} for Vrana + {something}

Vrana is probably off limits, unless there is a legitimate high impact, long term player coming back. Something around Klefbom. Oilers would be crazy to let Klefbom go.

Vrana + Bowey for Klefbom + Maroon

 

[ChaoticOrange]

problem is the caps have no need for maroon. your likely to get better value from someone else.

Probably. I'm almost wondering if there's a Maroon+Letestu to Pittsburgh deal that makes sense. They could use some cheap vets and both Maroon and Testy have very reasonable deals.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Vrana is probably off limits, unless there is a legitimate high impact, long term player coming back. Something around Klefbom. Oilers would be crazy to let Klefbom go.

Vrana + Bowey for Klefbom + Maroon

It's fair that you'd want someone long term coming back but Klefbom is no Bueno.

There would be a lot of team control around Benning but if something can't be massaged there I get it.

 

[Lays]

Vrana is probably off limits, unless there is a legitimate high impact, long term player coming back. Something around Klefbom. Oilers would be crazy to let Klefbom go.

Vrana + Bowey for Klefbom + Maroon

That’s pretty horrible for the Oilers even though Klef has been pretty bad
Vrana tops out as a 2nd liner imo and I’m not/never have been a fan of Bowey

 

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problem is the caps have no need for maroon. your likely to get better value from someone else.

Respectfully disagree. Considering how much time Smith-Pelly, Chiasson and Wilson have spend in the top 6, we could absolutely use a scoring winger.

 

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That’s pretty horrible for the Oilers even though Klef has been pretty bad
Vrana tops out as a 2nd liner imo and I’m not/never have been a fan of Bowey

I know. I wouldn't like it if I were an Oiler fan.

Caps just can't trade Vrana for spare parts/rentals. He is our best young/cheap winger.

 

[hockeykicker]

Respectfully disagree. Considering how much time Smith-Pelly, Chiasson and Wilson have spend in the top 6, we could absolutely use a scoring winger.

the reason is since maroon is a left winger. caps dont need left winger

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I know. I wouldn't like it if I were an Oiler fan.

Caps just can't trade Vrana for spare parts/rentals. He is our best young/cheap winger.

Totally understandable. The problem is you guys have traded off so many picks in recent years what the Oilers are looking for - young, waiver exempt, close to or completely NHL ready forwards - are pretty slim and none.

 

[traparatus]

the reason is since maroon is a left winger. caps dont need left winger

It would be a backup plan for Vrana who has really turned into a pumpkin lately. I think it would do Kuznetsov a world of good to have a net-driving shooter on his wing.

Doesn't Maroon play right wing sometimes? Oiler fans will know.