Marner vs Eichel

[Voight]

Marners playoff stats are definitely better

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Marners playoff stats are definitely better

best of his draft class in fact

 

[Green Snow Storm]

Marner.

Marner is better than Matthews as well who I think is a hair better than Eichel.

 

[LongWayDown37]

Who cares who this board thinks is better as long as Marner ends up costing the Leafs $12M a year life will be good.

 

[mattydamon]

Close but I would take Eichel - position and size and Marner gets a real nice support system which sadly GM Jack is missing out on.

Also Matthews is better/more valuable than either imo.

 

[The Assclown]

Who cares who this board thinks is better as long as Marner ends up costing the Leafs $12M a year life will be good.

What haters are resorting to now that the Leafs are a good team.

 

[780il]

Too close to call. Eichel has the positional advantage and is an absolute beast when you look at the raw tools (the may be 5 or so guys who have Eichel's level of speed and strength). Marner may (and I stress may) be slightly better and more exciting, but Sabres absolutely didn't mess up that pick. Just turned out to be a draft where a lot of teams got amazing players.

This

I voted Eichel cause he's a center

 

[LongWayDown37]

What haters are resorting to now that the Leafs are a good team.

What am I resorting to?

 

[Pyrophorus]

What am I resorting to?

Hoping that the Leafs blow out their salary.

Let me hope that the cap become gelatinous, or ridden of in the CBA.

 

[Puckstuff]

Marner > Matthews/Eichel for me. At least at this moment in time, could easily change.

 

[Finn16]

Who cares who this board thinks is better as long as Marner ends up costing the Leafs $12M a year life will be good.

Who cares if Marner makes 12M a year when hes a much better player than Eichel and he makes 10M? Teams want to win hockey games last time I checked but I guess Sabre fans have completely given up on the thought of that ever happening.

Hows life again?

 

[WilliamNylander]

Better player? Marner.

More valuable player? That's a tougher question. Eichel is a stud 1C, I guess if a team was starting fresh they would need that 1C but if you have a good center already then Marner becomes more valuable.

 

[Semantics]

Someone needs to dig up all the replies on here when anyone suggested (as one NHL scout did pre-draft) that Marner might, just might, outscore Eichel. He's already done it, both in a single season and in career PPG. Most of those people look like idiots now.

 

[BananaSquad]

Both great players. Arizona must shake their heads daily on not drafting Marner.

 

[Beyonder91]

I look at things like Matthews quality of competition, his 5 on 5 production, his career metrics vs the league, his position whereas Marner gets sheltered minutes.

But Marner won a poll on HF? That has a pretty small sample of fans and pretty much meaningless IMO.

Marner faces top lines. Babcock said if Matthews was going to play with Marner he would have to be ready to play against top lines.

 

[34]

Marner. Kid is unreal.

Eichel is a high end player as well though.

 

[Stamkos4life]

I look at things like Matthews quality of competition, his 5 on 5 production, his career metrics vs the league, his position whereas Marner gets sheltered minutes.

But Marner won a poll on HF? That has a pretty small sample of fans and pretty much meaningless IMO.

You do realize that Matthews was our most sheltered forward this season, right?

I'd say right now the majority of leaf fans think marner is better.

 

[Deadly Dogma]

I got roasted hard by suggesting that Marner was more skilled that Eichel.

 

[6zag]

I got roasted hard by suggesting that Marner was more skilled that Eichel.

He is though? I'd still pick Eichel due to him being a center.

Edit: and also because Marner is potentially going to cost more.

 

[Raging Bull]

Marners game has evolved a ton this year. Developed into a pretty good pker the second half of this season and always a shorthanded threat.

 

[BlueBaron]

Hard to compare wingers and C. I like both depending on your needs but you need a C first.

 

[4chandler]

You do realize that Matthews was our most sheltered forward this season, right?

I'd say right now the majority of leaf fans think marner is better.

Why is Marner getting harder minutes now? Because he's on Tavares line.

Marner played two season with JVR and Bozak, the most sheltered line in the league while Matthews was leading the league in 5 on 5 goals with the hardest minutes.

Most fans don't think Marner's better, the sample size and context is being ignored and you're putting up a false narrative of 'most fans'.

Most fans are pissed at the notion of Marner getting Matthews money, go figure.

But speak out of both sides of your mouth to make a silly point.

Again (because you'll ignore the context) take Tavares off Marner's line and teams put out their best against Matthews. Marner isn't the variable for harder competition.

 

[4chandler]

Marner faces top lines. Babcock said if Matthews was going to play with Marner he would have to be ready to play against top lines.

Tavares faces top lines. Marner was a bottom six Kessel with the Pens sheltered darling pre Tavares. That is when he played his way off the 4th line but sure, Babcock just adores Marner....

 

[Beyonder91]

Tavares faces top lines. Marner was a bottom six Kessel with the Pens sheltered darling pre Tavares. That is when he played his way off the 4th line but sure, Babcock just adores Marner....

I just told you that Babcock said Matthews (a center) would have to face top lines if he played with Marner.
Nobody cares about what year you are talking about... we are talking NOW.

 

[Morbo]

Who cares who this board thinks is better as long as Marner ends up costing the Leafs $12M a year life will be good.

yes, yes it will.