Value of: Marc Staal

[bfaust30]

Had a pretty solid year tbh, not complaining as much. He is one of the only vets on the team, but the cap is still a problem. And if they could get something small for him and try and go for Carlson at a 7x7 deal that would quicken this rebuild.

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[tradenashnow]

A lot of the teams giving up 4 to 7 goals in these games in the playoffs could have used him. That is for sure. He was probably the teams best d-man this year. Only one who wasn't a turnover machine. I think they keep him to guide some of the young guys.

 

[Kupo]

Had a pretty solid year tbh, not complaining as much. He is one of the only vets on the team, but the cap is still a problem. And if they could get something small for him and try and go for Carlson at a 7x7 deal that would quicken this rebuild.

Glen Sather tried to quicken the rebuild. Ask me how I feel about that today.

You’re not moving Staal without a significant amount of retention. We already have Girardis buyout on the books. We might have Smith’s in the next year.

We signed Shatty to a big deal last summer. And now you want to throw 7x7 at Carson to speed up the rebuild?

It seems like all of your proposals make zero sense for NY. JFC.

Stay the course. No half assed rebuild please. Thank the lord you are not the Rangers GM.

 

[Kupo]

A lot of the teams giving up 4 to 7 goals in these games in the playoffs could have used him. That is for sure. He was probably the teams best d-man this year. Only one who wasn't a turnover machine. I think they keep him to guide some of the young guys.

Staal played better this past year than the year before, but he sure as hell wasnt our best dmen. And he is a turnover machine. He has no offensive instincts and his breakout pass is suitable for 80’s NHL.

Not sure what you’re watching. Maybe you’re focused on the fact that Buchnevich is Russian instead of paying attention to the game.

 

[Machinehead]

He wasn't solid last year at all.

He had ten good games and then went back to being his unwatchable self, but by then nobody cared.

 

[Langdon Alger]

If the Rangers retain 30-50% they might be able to find a taker.

 

[SML2]

Typical NYR mindset. When we are trying to win, we keep the guy and he's horrible and makes it difficult to win. When we are rebuilding, and his experience seems a little useful and it's not a huge deal that he stinks because there's a lot of problems and it doesn't cost you games nightly, let's buy him out. Makes zero sense to get rid of him until he is legitimately pushed out of the lineup by someone better. Right now it's hard to say we have six sure fire better defensemen.

 

[Lays]

Meh no ones going to take Staal unless we retain 50% and add something decent. He was decent this year and Pionk seems to like being mentored by Staal, would rather just ride out the contract, cap space isn’t an issue and we don’t have 3 better guys on the left side. Lindgren is likely to take that last spot on LD next year, we’ll have Skjei-Staal-Lindgren(which obviously isn’t good at all) and then Hajek/Rykov will eventually push him out. We don’t need him gone just yet

 

[gump116]

Genuinely curious... would staal still have negative value if rangers retained 50%? Would be 3 years at a little under 3 per. As a rangers fan, I’d guess that’s about what he’d get as a ufa, so maybe he’d be worth a late pick at that price

 

[SML2]

His contract becomes more tolerable as time progresses. Each year the avg salary goes up and his value actually gets better. There is no reason to do this now. It reminds me of back in the day when everyone laughed at Sergei Gonchar's contract and he had negative value. Eventually the league average caught up and what he brought was not bad at all for the money. Don't deal him with three years left. The rebuild will probably take two and by then he may not be an asset you have to sell at a discount and could actually turn a profit on.

 

[Beige Van]

Staal + 2nd round pick for Alzner

 

[cwede]

Staal + 2nd round pick for Alzner

why would NYR do this, pay extra to add an even longer pricy LD deal?

if Habs are taking the shot which NYR are not - another kick at the can with Price, Weber and their handful of strong wings, Staal can help

but not the Alzner contract

NYR retain some, take back Benn whose spot Staal assumes, a good (2d/3d) pick, and a future or 2, like a McNiven, Lernout

 

[SlapshotTheMovie]

Staal has a full NMC and isn't goign anywhere. Besides that he is a negative assest player. His value hurts a trade so something great would need to be added to get something kinda okay back. His "pretty solid year" was still filled with unforced turn overs, missed coverage, and horrible possession. Him at his best right now is only worth 50% of that contract. With the FNMC and the dollar amount he is untradeable.

 

[Kupo]

Staal has a full NMC and isn't goign anywhere. Besides that he is a negative assest player. His value hurts a trade so something great would need to be added to get something kinda okay back. His "pretty solid year" was still filled with unforced turn overs, missed coverage, and horrible possession. Him at his best right now is only worth 50% of that contract. With the FNMC and the dollar amount he is untradeable.

Starting next season, Staals NMC turns into a modified NTC. He’s also owed only 10.2m over the next 3 years.

 

[Kupo]

Staal + 2nd round pick for Alzner

This is just a foolish thing to consider.

 

[Kupo]

Genuinely curious... would staal still have negative value if rangers retained 50%? Would be 3 years at a little under 3 per. As a rangers fan, I’d guess that’s about what he’d get as a ufa, so maybe he’d be worth a late pick at that price

He’s still a solid 3rd pairing dmen. 3m cap hit with only 10.2m owed - I think a team would see value there.

 

[Klaus3154]

This is finally a time where Staal isn’t hurting the Rangers. You still need a veteran back there to mentor the kids coming up. Salary cap shouldn’t be an issue if the plan is to play a bunch of kids making under a million. Staal isn’t going anywhere

 

[boredmale]

From a pure cap dumb perspective

Staal for Matt Martin

 

[TGWL]

And Carlson wants to come to the Rangers at 7x7 because? "Hey, we're rebuilding and our taxes are extremely high, we know you just put up 60+ points, but how's 7 million over 7 sound?"

Why shouldn't Carlson ask for more?

 

[Filthy Dangles]

he has a modified no trade clause, what are the conditions of it?

 

[tradenashnow]

Rangers have ZERO need to trade for any defenseman. They just traded for three talented, near NHL ready defenseman. Plus they have a ton of high picks in this years draft.

 

[Gospel of Prospal]

Marc Staal for Milan Lucic and the Oilers first rounder

 

[SlapshotTheMovie]

Starting next season, Staals NMC turns into a modified NTC. He’s also owed only 10.2m over the next 3 years.

yeah you are going to need a source for that because he has a full no move until the last day of his contract.

 

[Kupo]

yeah you are going to need a source for that because he has a full no move until the last day of his contract.

His Full NMC turns into a Modified NMC this summer.

Marc Staal

 

[SlapshotTheMovie]

His Full NMC turns into a Modified NMC this summer.

Marc Staal

NO IT DOESN"T you can't just say that without a source. Thats not how this works. He has a full no move clause with no list of teams or chance of being sent to the AHL for the entire contract. Unless you are coming back with a source you are a liar and just blowing smoke.


EDIT: I see the source now... however its wrong and i provided sources saying otherwise including NHL.com, Cap Friendly, and Capgeek.