I do agree Savard is an ideal piece for FLA.
Hoffman at least replaces some of Panarin's stats for a year at worst. Still recoup some value if he's traded.
Signing Duchene (8 x $9 mil), Werenksi (6 x $6.75 million)and Dzingel (5-6 x $5.5 mil) should be the targets.
Feel I'm close on those terms/figures and Hoffman would sign a similar deal to Pacioretty (4 x 7 to 7.25 million)
Hoffman knows both of those two bolded above and you'd have your top 6 set for a while if you re-sign him.
You'd still have Jones, Werenski and Nutivaara who was only playing 2 mins less per game than Savard and have Peeke or Collins ready for a bottom pairing spot no? Maybe sign Varly and go with him and Korpisalo while burying Reimer and getting two 2nds as well.
I'd love some clarification the 8th year option, have heard it both ways but some on here said the deadline was the cutoff. I remember when we traded for Yandle's rights of a 4th and 6th and he only got 7 years. Not sure if 8th year option was available or even offered though.
Don't think Savard is worth 13th overall though.
Couple things Hoffman is a great sniper but as the other CBJ fan said we arent trying to bring the lockerroom issues of Ott into this room it's best if what those guys had there stays there. It's best if Hoffmans gf stays far away from the cbj.
As far as D goes yes we have Z and Jones on top pairing, Nuti playing just a little under who is Murrays partner and the likely Gavrikov will be with Savard. Peeke JUST signed so we are unsure if he is ready. Kukan is likely the one who would replace him. But the way you are talking about Savard makes it sound like he is an average 2nd pair D... he played top pairing sometimes and well before Jones. Even after Jones Savard and JJ sometimes played top pair when they were in a role and locking it down. But Jones being a RHD is the only reason Savard isnt talked about as a 1D... He played there with Z when Jones was hurt as well. Just putting context to your idea he isnt worth 13 and is comparable to Nuti when he is closer to Jones.
To the Reimer talk any deal sending him here is a no we already have our next years starter and backup ready along with our 2 minor leaguers who are near ready to play in the NHL if our current 2 cant hang. Korpi and Latvias own Elvis will be fighting for king in the bigs while Tarasov and Double V will likely be battling it out in cleveland. (If you want to see some of the best goalie prospects in the league check out those 3 especially VV and Tarasov.)
13th overall for Savard just seems heavy on value for CBJ.
I don't doubt 13th overall is in play on draft day but just don't see it for Savard with 2 years left.
Any recent trade comparables of the type value for a #3D?
He played less TOI than Ekblad, Yandle and Matheson this year so he'd be on the 2nd pairing with one of Yandle or Matheson.
He did jump up to an impressive 23mins a game in playoffs though.
Not gonna argue you don't have some sniper or good 5 on 5 offense but why was your PP bottom 5 in the league then? Should be shot after shot after shot on net.
I ask because our team is full of passers (Huby, Bark, Yandle) and only Hoffman, Vatrano and Trocheck are really the shoot first guys on our team.
I'd say maybe Heponiemi enters the conversation then but he was just signed a couple days back so probably not likely. He's a pure playmaker and someone I feel is blocked if we sign Panarin and already have Huberdeau and Dadonov in the top 6 for wingers. Vatrano may get the last spot if Hoffman is moved and Tippett is knocking at the door.
Again saying Savard is a #3 is only relative to the team which he plays for. For the majority of the season Murray was healthy Werenski would be a #3 in your eyes because Murray and Jones were our top pair and they sure as hell played like it as well. Side note me and a few others for years said Murray was a #2 when some fans said he isnt even bottom pair but when healthy he is a monster. Avs fans said he would never be a piece in a deal for Duchene and they were saying they are happy with the OTT trade they got obviously with the pick they got but that Murray was levels better then they thought. That's the thing the jackets have 5 guys who are top pair worthy and 6 that could be top 3. Jones, Z, Murray, Savard, and Gavrikov (has done so in the Olympics, Worlds, and KHL) have all played and are all capable of playing top pair minutes. Nuti is a capable #3. But just because he is stuck behind Jones does NOT mean he isnt good enough to anchor a top pair which Savy 100% can. He didnt have a ton of minutes because Jones averaged near the top of the league. And those minutes are hard minutes he doesnt play PP and plays on the PK while being one of the top shot blockers in the league always laying his body on the line.
And the other CBJ fan is right about us having too many shooters not enough playmakers. Anderson, Bjorkstrand, Atkinson are all on the right and all shooters. C wise wennberg is only Pass but PLD and Jenner are much more often shoot first. Left side was fligs and Dzingle which you guessed it shooters. Bread was the only one there that was 50/50 and just made the best decision on what to do. The problem with the Powerplays name is Brad Larson. Somehow he has kept a job over the past 3 years even though we have been consistently the worst OP in the league. Bringing MSL on has helped a little but it was still awful. We just need a new PP coach. Really nothing to do with the players because no matter who goes out there we cant score so the only constant is Larson.
And yet every source says the Panthers are the favorites. You keep calling the Rangers the favorites because of Davidson while ignoring all the connections the Panthers have with him. It makes no sense.
Davidson is just the newest piece in that puzzle NYR have always been in the running based on original reports. Florida was added later on because TDL moves to clear money and there was thought that because Miami he may consider and they were likely to make a huge push for both Bob and bread. Bob is most likely to go to Florida so no change there but based on past Panarin interviews and his opinions about wanting to play in MSG and his gf wanting to love in NYC and JD going there now... yes NYC is the favorite. All the Florida sources you read think he is likely to go there because they are openly working on trying 5o get him. When q team isnt hiding its moves it's easy to report they are the favorites. You wont hear about other teams until after 7/1.