Value of: Make a Trade with Edmonton

[WingsMJN2965]

Before you guys post 3 million ****ty proposals on here: no, we're not attaching the 8th pick to move Lucic. If the 8th pick is traded it's gonna be for an under 24 top 6 winger who can step in on our 2nd line and be a major difference maker. No we don't need a winger for McDavid, Drai just scored 50 goals three. And we are absolutely not trading away good players for draft picks and prospects.

Quick PSA

Athanasiou for #8OA?

FWIW, I don't see Ken Holland doing this at all.

 

[780il]

Athanasiou for #8OA?

FWIW, I don't see Ken Holland doing this at all.

The value isn't there. Think Mantha

 

[WingsMJN2965]

The value isn't there. Think Mantha

Athanasiou + #54OA?

I'd be more inclined on keeping Mantha.

 

[CraigsList]

Athanasiou + #54OA?

I'd be more inclined on keeping Mantha.

AA isn't worth it to Edmonton to give up a top 10 pick. A late 2nd won't do the trick either.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

AA isn't worth it to Edmonton to give up a top 10 pick. A late 2nd won't do the trick either.

Maybe not, but you can't really claim you're not giving up #8 for anything but a U24 Top 6 winger when AA is clearly that.

And was arguably better than Mantha last year.

 

[nabob]

Count Johnsson as another player that won't be attached to move Zaitsev. I mean in my opinion (talent wise) Zaitsev>Russel. Now i get the contract issue, but the Leafs are only making Z available due to his request...they aren't in a "They have to move him at all costs" position here.

I get GMs trying to put the screws to Toronto here, but the Leafs can just keep zaitsev.

Can they keep him? How’s that going to work when Marner gets $12M and the Leafs still have a weak defense group?

 

[Liferleafer]

Can they keep him? How’s that going to work when Marner gets $12M and the Leafs still have a weak defense group?

Well, firstly, if Marner is getting 12...another team is paying it via offersheet. So after the Leafs decide what they are going to do with the 4 1st rounders they get....they will then decide what to do with the cap space they would have used for signing Marner.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Zucker+#12 for Pulj+#8

 

[nabob]

Well, firstly, if Marner is getting 12...another team is paying it via offersheet. So after the Leafs decide what they are going to do with the 4 1st rounders they get....they will then decide what to do with the cap space they would have used for signing Marner.

SO you’d rather lose Marner who’s a top 15 player in the league and keep Zaitsev who is barely a bottom pairing guy on a terrible contract, instead of attaching a small add to Zaitsev to get rid of his terrible contract and keeping Marner?

The cap space they need to sign Marner is obtained by ridding themselves of Zaitsev. You’ve already spent it on a terrible player.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Zucker+#12 for Pulj+#8

We’re in no position to add 5 million bucks worth of struggling winger and drop out of the interesting forwards for the pleasure of doing so. Gagner instead of Puljujarvi and I’d think about it.

 

[Michael HOMERUNing]

Kapanen + Zaitsev + Brown for Larsson
Brown for Benning
Bracco for 38

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Nolan Patrick for 8th?

 

[Digitalbooya]

We’re in no position to add 5 million bucks worth of struggling winger and drop out of the interesting forwards for the pleasure of doing so.

Then add non-Lucic cap going back to Minnesota. There should still be "interesting forwards" left at #12 and getting a 50 pt winger isn't a bad thing, especially when they are much more of a goal scorer than a playmaker.

 

[Liferleafer]

SO you’d rather lose Marner who’s a top 15 player in the league and keep Zaitsev who is barely a bottom pairing guy on a terrible contract, instead of attaching a small add to Zaitsev to get rid of his terrible contract and keeping Marner?

The cap space they need to sign Marner is obtained by ridding themselves of Zaitsev. You’ve already spent it on a terrible player.

Umm...not paying Marner a ludicrous contract has nothing to do with Zaitsev. We could trade Zaitsev with zero cap coming back and i still wouldn't pay 12 to Marner. If Marner wants 12? Sign the 1st offersheet you get son.

 

[AreUmadBro96]

Then add non-Lucic cap going back to Minnesota. There should still be "interesting forwards" left at #12 and getting a 50 pt winger isn't a bad thing, especially when they are much more of a goal scorer than a playmaker.

I agree, Zucker would be better than having JP next year. Worth picking at 12.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Gagner
3rd(don't care what year)

For

De La Rose

 

[780il]

Kapanen + Zaitsev + Brown for Larsson
Brown for Benning
Bracco for 38

2nd one is good, no thanks to the other two.

Then add non-Lucic cap going back to Minnesota. There should still be "interesting forwards" left at #12 and getting a 50 pt winger isn't a bad thing, especially when they are much more of a goal scorer than a playmaker.

If you did 8th + Manning + Gagner for Zucker + 12th and if Boldy was somehow still there I'd do it.

 

[Digitalbooya]

2nd one is good, no thanks to the other two.


If you did 8th + Manning + Gagner for Zucker + 12th and if Boldy was somehow still there I'd do it.

Taking out Pulj on top of adding cap dumps move the deal in the wrong direction for Minnesota. If you want to take out Pulj, then another forward prospect would need to be in his place. There is also no way one would know if Boldy would be there at #12 because Minnesota would want to make their own pick at #8.

 

[Ementy]

There isn't a deal in which we are attaching Kap to Zaitsev...unless Larsson is involved, which wouldn't happen.

Kapanen + Kadri for Larsson + Pulujarvi

Cap savings and defense for Toronto you can resign your players and run a RHD with both Larsson + Zaitsev or ship him out to Van but you guys deal with Zaitsev on your own. If there was a way to add brown to the deal feel free.

Edmonton gets the scoring depth they need and can slot in one of the young RHD to replace Larsson. (One of Bear, Jones, Bouchard, Mantha or Samorukov) Jeez the oilers have a good future on the blue line.

 

[Liferleafer]

Kapanen + Kadri for Larsson + Pulujarvi

Cap savings and defense for Toronto you can resign your players and run a RHD with both Larsson + Zaitsev or ship him out to Van but you guys deal with Zaitsev on your own. If there was a way to add brown to the deal feel free.

Edmonton gets the scoring depth they need and can slot in one of the young RHD to replace Larsson. (One of Bear, Jones, Bouchard, Mantha or Samorukov) Jeez the oilers have a good future on the blue line.

This one is interesting, but i think Kadri is fairly close to Larsdon in value....Pulji isn't close to Kap though.

 

[Ementy]

This one is interesting, but i think Kadri is fairly close to Larsdon in value....Pulji isn't close to Kap though.

Given Torontos situation I think the cap room plays a value in here. But I mean nothing wrong with adding a 3rd rounder.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Gagner
3rd(don't care what year)

For

De La Rose

I wouldn’t do either of those pieces for De La Rose. We need guys that can put the puck in the net and I’m not totally convinced De La Rose even knows there IS a net.

 

[hockeyfan55]

Labanc
Ryan
Braun

RNH
Lucic %50 retained

 

[Michael HOMERUNing]

Lucic
Larsson

for

Kapanen
Zaitsev
Marleau

 

[Space umpire]

Seabrook (.5 retained)
for
Lucic